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schmutzen
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Pharmahuasca
#6902148 - 05/11/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Going to take 3 grams of Rue as it never upsets my stomach, and I find Caapi to be too unpredictable. Then some freebase DMT, I was thinking 100mg of orange crystal but then came across this Erowid page suggesting 30mg with 15mg boosters. Anyone ever try this or have any dosing suggestions?
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_info8.shtml
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muistrue
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Re: Pharmahuasca [Re: schmutzen]
#6903060 - 05/11/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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In my experience it takes more DMT to get off orally then when smoked. 3 grams of rue and 100mg freebase DMT is a good dose. I'd even go with more DMT but definitely not less. I haven't seen orange DMT crystals in like 5 years. I remember in the late 90's that waxy orange deemster was everywhere. You still have some of that stashed? I do too. I think I'm gonna puff on some soon to compare it to the translucent crystals that i'm so used to now.
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special_k
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Re: Pharmahuasca [Re: schmutzen]
#6903582 - 05/11/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you experienced with oral dmt of dpt? You would be taking something of the equivalent of 20 grams of mimosa hostilis which in my opinion is too much for a first oral dmt trip. But, if I'm not mistaking, you are very experienced with mind-altering substances so you should be able to take it, just expect a possibly very unpleasant roller coaster ride that is more powerful than 8 grams of dried cubes IME.
When I first did oral dmt, I took 3 grams of syrian rue and 14 grams of mimosa hostilis which is maybe about 70mg of dmt if it was strong. The only real drug experience I had prior to this was with only weed and dxm.
The experience was very powerful and overwhelming. About 30 minutes after taking the dmt, I was starting to feel it. 10 minutes later, my mind was spirally out of control. at 50min after taking the dmt, I was regretting taking the dmt. I wished for the experience to end. Every minute felt like hours. I felt I had a god-like conscious with insight into the workings of the world, but I was experiencing and thinking of the pains of the world with my new perspective. Kinda of similar to smelling something disgusting with your sense of smell amplified a 1000 times. The theme of this and my first few oral dmt experiences is that we are so lucky to experience so little. Having a god-like conscious would be torture. After maybe 5 oral dmt experiences, the experience lost its scariness and I'm now pretty comfortable with higher doses.
Given your drug experience, I'd recommend 50mg but if you want to approach with caution I find 30mgs recreational.
How would you react to 100mgs, I don't know but I'm willing to bet that it will be overwhelming and scary. Afterwards, I'm sure you'll be happy you did it.
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special_k
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Re: Pharmahuasca [Re: schmutzen]
#6903868 - 05/11/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmmm... I see you have experience with smoked dmt. You may need a higher oral dmt dose that I originally thought. What ever you decide please let us know how it goes.
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Re: Pharmahuasca [Re: special_k]
#6903881 - 05/11/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would suggest 80mg DMT or so orally.
But you can never predict how strong it will be.
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schmutzen
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Re: Pharmahuasca [Re: muistrue]
#6904882 - 05/12/07 02:20 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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FractalDust In my experience it takes more DMT to get off orally then when smoked. 3 grams of rue and 100mg freebase DMT is a good dose. I'd even go with more DMT but definitely not less. I haven't seen orange DMT crystals in like 5 years. I remember in the late 90's that waxy orange deemster was everywhere. You still have some of that stashed? I do too. I think I'm gonna puff on some soon to compare it to the translucent crystals that i'm so used to now.
Yep, it's been around for a few moons. Thank you for the advice (I can't tell a difference between the two, it's possible the off-white powder has a slightly better taste). 
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special_k How would you react to 100mgs, I don't know but I'm willing to bet that it will be overwhelming and scary. Afterwards, I'm sure you'll be happy you did it.
Thank you for sharing your story and for the encouragement. Not sure when this will happen, but I will surely write a report. 
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bluedolphin I would suggest 80mg DMT or so orally.
But you can never predict how strong it will be.
Just worried about under-dosing, I've got another ~60mg of off-white powder for eating or smoking to extend it a bit.
Most likely drifting on the couch with headphones rather than braving the wilderness, I want to play it safe with this method, I know the MAOI will effect the experience greatly. Thanks for the response.
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