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SumGuy
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critters in horse poop
#689991 - 06/20/02 07:37 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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My friend went to pick up some horse poop from a place that had a mountain of it ... it was kind of hard to get all dry so he just took whatever and is drying it out the rest of the way in the sun... there's lots o' lil critters in it .. i guess some of them will die off from the heat and drying but will the rest and the eggs die during pasturization so it will be all good to use? Also is horse poop supposed to still look kind of strawish?
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: SumGuy]
#689998 - 06/20/02 07:40 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>is horse poop supposed to still look kind of strawish?
Yes.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: SumGuy]
#692313 - 06/21/02 09:27 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes the critters will be taken care of with propper pasturization. the reason horse poop is so coarse is because horses have poor digestion, this is also the reason it is so nutritious.
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SumGuy
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: canid]
#693249 - 06/21/02 07:35 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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ok so for horse poop what is proper pasturization .. with straw this person usually does 150-160 for an hour.. is this also good enough for horse poop?
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: SumGuy]
#693841 - 06/22/02 08:32 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I try to pick out the biggest living things I can find in the dung I use. I'm always concerned that those "cooked to mush," critters could be a good place for some really nasty stuff to start, I have noticed "bodies," after the bath and not had any bad results so who knows. I do know that the bath tek is better than dry baking it in the oven and then adding water to it, while that is a great way to crumble it up, makes it much easier, I think the bath leaches out some of the stronger acidic waste and makes it easier for mycelium to grow. I've tried it both ways and it always goes faster if I soak the dung at a simmer for about an hour, I guess I need a thermometer but I have always had good luck without one.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: SumGuy]
#695106 - 06/22/02 09:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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for horse poo i usualy do 160-170 for at least half an hour but a full hour might be advisable. for straw i usualy do the same as your friend. i'm not sure why i oo a bit higher for poo, it's probably just my subconcious distrust of anything that came out of a hourse's rear, i'm sure most insects will actualy die long before the harmful bacteria and molds. if there are a lot of criters in your dung it might not be composted well enough, does it smell much? p.s. anno, please fill me in if any of this is off.
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Edited by concretefeet (06/22/02 09:31 PM)
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SumGuy
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: canid]
#695680 - 06/23/02 05:46 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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the person pasturized some yesterday .. there weren't lots of critters it was all good... he says it smelled like really good soil after it was pasturized and he's already spawned with some millet and the mycelium is already recovering so it should be sweet... he just did a little bit at first to make sure it works .. thanks for your responses man.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: SumGuy]
#695840 - 06/23/02 08:17 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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good luck, keep us all posted with the results.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: canid]
#700961 - 06/25/02 02:50 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you want to have an amazing cultivation experience do puerto's on dung. Just make sure you squeeze the piss out of it after its cooked, if theres one thing I've found its moisture content is the "staller," with dung, its really hard to get the moisture out. I just grew some puertos and they absolutely blew it away colonizing.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: whackedout]
#701047 - 06/25/02 03:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree...Even squeezing every drop out with your hands is still a little too wet IMO. I spent a lot of time and a lot of dung getting that figured out.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: bassplayer74]
#701662 - 06/25/02 06:48 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i read someone (might have been the ripper) recomend steping on it while it's still inside the pillowcase though i think that was for straw. sounds good if you have clean feet. i usualy shake it around so it is level in the botton of the pillocase, then roll it up from bottom to top, then start twisting it from either end to ring it out, you'd be supprised how much tourqe you can put into it.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: canid]
#701666 - 06/25/02 06:50 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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hell ya...whatever you gotta do to get it nice and wringed out...that poo will colonize mega slow if you dont!!!!
newbies beware...muuuhahahahah
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: bassplayer74]
#701972 - 06/25/02 09:47 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend uses a blue jean pant leg with wire wrapped at each end ,submerged in 160 dgr. water then laid ona clean rough sawn board with another sat on top of it the he jumps up an down for a bit on the top one it squeezes much water out then he hangs the home made sack of dung up over the cooler he had the water bath in over nite at least and much water drains off during that time then its ready to use with out further hand wringing of the manure required.
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: mew]
#703934 - 06/26/02 08:20 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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wow mew, that was a cool post. I almost understood it ... hehe
Ive found my mushies like manure when its nice and moist. They grow a lot bigger! Cept just a few days ago I checked one of my tubs and there was mold...I think it was too wet!!
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: angryshroom]
#707120 - 06/28/02 04:28 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i cant pasterize cow shit in my house can i get hot water and pour it on the shit and soak it in a bucket to pasterize it?
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SumGuy
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: humplok4201]
#707632 - 06/28/02 09:46 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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how come you can't pasturize shit in your house?
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SumGuy
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Re: critters in horse poop [Re: humplok4201]
#707637 - 06/28/02 09:47 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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how come you can't pasturize shit in your house? ... I think mycofile had a tek on here with turning up the heat on a hot water heater to 160 and then filling up a garbage can with water from the tap and then adding enough boiling water to it so it brings the temp up to 170, then you put your dung/straw in with something to weigh it down, then put the lid on and leave it for like an hour to an hour and a half. Drain and let excess water drip out.. you should be all good but i think that you should have drinkable tap water. .. if you cant drink it dont use it!
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Edited by SumGuy (06/28/02 09:49 AM)
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