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    #6821029 - 04/22/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

This was all adapted from Ohmatic's monotubs


colonized 10 pints of rye grain with mexi cube spore.
busted up once done. mixed in with 4 pints of vermiculite, presoaked in diluted malt extract, then autoclaved (before mixing with colonized grains of course), put back in incubator to recolonize.
day 3 took out of incubator,
here are some pics.

the last one is in day 7 of fruiting triggers.









will probably be editing more in momentarily.

i'll update within the week once i get a good visible pin set, right now it's knotting up all fucking over in large clumps.

pz.

oh yeah, here's this



a lot of people ask what kind of lids do I use.

plastic storage lids, with a hole drilled for needle, a hole for polyfil. the hole for needle is sealed up with silicone II gel, heat resistant, for self healing injection site.

and yes, i know my substrate/casing layer is very unlevel, this was done intentionally, as last time i had a shitty casing layer level, i had a great pinset.

Edited by jeetered (05/03/07 01:35 PM)

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6828727 - 04/24/07 06:51 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

tried to grab a pic of primordia, about to pin up nicely, literally hundreds of lil ol primordia.


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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6828780 - 04/24/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

very nice! i gotta try this monotub thing...

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6829078 - 04/24/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You are gonna kick yourself in the ass for not shielding the bottom of that tub from light. Have fun picking the aborts from the side and bottom of it :rolleyes:

I've done it before. Live and learn right?
monotubs rule

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: Neurogenesis]
    #6829342 - 04/24/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

neurogenesis, side pins are inevitable either way.
I did that on purpose, you're assuming that everything will abhort, that's not the case, i've had many, many, many successful monotubs, this one is simply for fun.

lived and learned. don't take offense, im quite aware that i'm going to have side pins...

some of the biggest shrooms i've ever had have come from the side of a monotub. Can't wait for them again!

Thanks moon-glue, you should try it, tis great,

IF YOU DO, be sure to sheild the sides and bottoms, Neuro is right, that is the correct thing to do, but when you've gone through as many tubs as i have, even in the best sheilding/blocking of light, you get sidepins.

pz. OH and come back in a few days, maybe friday i'll have pics of lil shrooms, the primordia forming, and baby pins are fantabulous, i have a shit camera on my phone, so it's proven hard to get a clear pic.

next tub, is going to be F+, sent to me by a fellow shroomerite, im excited about those, the spores went into an lc, (not all of them) and i've got mass colonization on day 3, love LC's they are the rule.

Oh yeah, to throw you another wrench, there is absolutely NO casing layer, at all, it's doing better then a casing layered tub... wtf...
hahah live and learn right?

don't get me wrong, ALL future tubs will continue to have a casing layer,

so this tub

no casing layer
no shielding of light
done pretty simply.

lets give it a week and see what happens? right?
this is an experiment, not me needing a lesson, i've had a few behind my belt before doing this one.

PACE

Edited by jeetered (04/24/07 09:07 PM)

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6853181 - 04/30/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ok, so, here is what i've gathered on this method,

usually by day 14 of fruiting, with a casing layer, i have nice size pins, without a casing layer, im lookin at primordia developing still, I am hoping that the extra few days proves worth it, if not, i will of course keep you updated, but SO FAR, fuck this, for now on im sticking with my straight vermiculite casing layer.

I'll update pics when my shitty cell phone aperature actually catches a good pic.

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6853220 - 04/30/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Allot of times a casing layer can cause more problems than what they are worth.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: Psychoslut]
    #6853763 - 04/30/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Psychoslut said:
Allot of times a casing layer can cause more problems than what they are worth.




If done incorrectly.

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: zathan]
    #6854016 - 04/30/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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zathan said:
Quote:

Psychoslut said:
Allot of times a casing layer can cause more problems than what they are worth.




If done incorrectly.




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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: zathan]
    #6854211 - 04/30/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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zathan said:
Quote:

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Allot of times a casing layer can cause more problems than what they are worth.




If done incorrectly.




Even if done perfectly they are still a vector for contamination. Newbs should do bulk grows without casings until they know exactly what they are doing.

I find a casing for cubensis pointless anyways.


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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: Psychoslut]
    #6855969 - 04/30/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Here is some of my pics, they wont quit fucking knotting up, which i dont know why im complaining, i guess that's a good thing, it's just hard to see whats going on without a casing layer.. the knots are getting huger and more prolific, so i guess that's good. I still think casing layers are essential, this isn't a good idea unless you just want to mess around with something as I am doing with this one.
The tub is mexicube, as well as the cake.

I did one single cake to test these little single tubs out, it's a biscotti container cut in half. it rox.

here u go












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check this out...

i forgot n/m

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6863365 - 05/02/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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I find a casing for cubensis pointless anyways.





so if you find it pointless, you've not used one? and if not... any troubles getting it to stop knotting and finally pin?

i think it's about to, i see some reddish tips, I THINK, maybe not. Could be reflection from the clown lips i taped to the tub.

also, after checking this tub out today, i started thinking it reminded me of the old "flatcake" , in a tub only. It's rye grain subs, mixed with diluted malt extract/water soaked verm, mixed up, and put in tub, no casing layer.

so i've looked up the flatcake inventor, and pm'd him/her.

here is their work:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=398516&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Edited by jeetered (05/02/07 03:46 PM)

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6864684 - 05/02/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

*small update*


added 1800 lumen cfl to tub, gretchens suggested stop using natural sunlight, and use artificial light, so im going with cfl in the cool spectrum to maybe throw some intensity on it, i refuse to believe 24/7 light is necessary, so im only going to give it 16-18, my awake hours.
The light is sitting on lid of tub, as it gives off very very very little heat, and internal temp of tub is staying at 74*F now steady adding air conditioning to it. My ambient room temp is 72 now, and tub with light +2*F, i have to wear socks now. the lame. Anyhow, so the light is uber intense on the tub from right above. I really wanted to see if ambient sunlight from a window would work... it's looking like artificial light is helping already.




lets see what happens huh?

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6864864 - 05/02/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

forgot the pics

u can actually see the silly layer in this one.





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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6866600 - 05/03/07 09:41 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

so, either my eyesight is shit, or one day with intense light has raised the red headed beauty's out of the myc, OR, i shoulda waited 3 or 4 more days before panic, either way..

THANKS GRETCHEN!!

woke up to hundreds of redheads in my tub! gotta love redheads.

ok,

now,

when they get a bit bigger and my shitty cell phone aperature can see them i'll shoot some pics n proof.

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6872495 - 05/04/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well i tried ohmatics tub a few times. i find something a bit easier now. i use saran wrap on top with the same side holes with polyfil. the corners of the saran wrap are opened a bit and left on loosely to allow open air exchange in the chamber. a fan running in the room can get a good current going. if your humidity levels get too high you can simply open the corners up. you can also add moisture with s spray bottle on the sides of the chamber.

you can check this link here. this is what i did a while back. so far this method works wonders more than any tek if you looking for efficieny. no fanning required. no double tub or anything. just a single tub and some tape/ saran wrap.
http://www.thenook.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=41728&hl=monotubs

ohmatic and i had this discussion a while back. however, i find that using the lids builds up moisture and co2 too much. the saran wrap has holes in it so it actually breathes through the saran wrap. also jethros box tek is another great tek over at the nook. i don't believe it is on this forum but i havn't looked. also i have been using strawnet as a substrate recently rather than straw/dung. strawnet is actually wheat grass. its so simple its ridiculous. i am not trying to be rude but i don't check my messages here very much so if you need to reach me message me at the nook. i don't check there much either but more often than here.


this is basically the main idea.



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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: eatyualive]
    #6897177 - 05/10/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ah great idea!

ok, so this monotub failed....

cobweb couldn't be beat.

i adapted my tubs somewhat like yours..

i'll be posting my F+ tubs/bags in a moment,

SO GUYS even im not bullet proof...

i love that schematic man, i wish i woulda done that from teh get go.

PEACE NUGS AND GOOD LLUCK!

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6897184 - 05/10/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ironically, the biscotti thing, it fruited nicely, and i've gobbled those fruits.

man, get some of those, they rawkzorz.

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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: jeetered]
    #6898083 - 05/10/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well depending on the chamber, i would say that the lid may have the end conclusion with contams and moisture. some lids are loose, some are air tight. i am not sure what type of container ohm uses. however i use iris 60 liter bins. when the lid is on, this thing is air tight. moisture buildup is very high. so the saran wrap allows it to breathe a bit. if you have excess condensation simply tilt the box at a 45 degree angle or just open the corners slightly to allow some of the moisture to escape. you can seriously get your rh inside the chamber to a t if you figure out just the right amount to let out. it may take trial and error but for the most part, it is as simple as opening the corners for a day.


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Re: mexi-cube monotubs [Re: eatyualive]
    #6898333 - 05/10/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

the lids aren't very air tight at all.
when i sinched them up, and taped them down, the rH got out of control.
I also had the polyfil stuffed WAY WAY too tight.

it wasn't allowing any air to flow
i tested the new tubs, when they were empty of substrate, by blowing a fan across new polyfil holes, there is now circulation.


so here is my new thread,

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6897201/an/0/page/1

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