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Headphones: how loud is too loud?
    #6897235 - 05/10/07 12:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

for example:
my mp3 player has a volume rate from 0-30

I suppose 30 would be bad for your ears. I usually listen at 7, a pretty low volume. but from where would it be harmfull?


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6897261 - 05/10/07 12:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

it all depends on the decibel level. Here's something I found:

http://www.answers.com/topic/noise-pollution

Noise intensity is measured in decibel units. The decibel scale is logarithmic; each 10-decibel increase represents a tenfold increase in noise intensity. Human perception of loudness also conforms to a logarithmic scale; a 10-decibel increase is perceived as roughly a doubling of loudness. Thus, 30 decibels is 10 times more intense than 20 decibels and sounds twice as loud; 40 decibels is 100 times more intense than 20 and sounds 4 times as loud; 80 decibels is 1 million times more intense than 20 and sounds 64 times as loud. Distance diminishes the effective decibel level reaching the ear. Thus, moderate auto traffic at a distance of 100 ft (30 m) rates about 50 decibels. To a driver with a car window open or a pedestrian on the sidewalk, the same traffic rates about 70 decibels; that is, it sounds 4 times louder. At a distance of 2,000 ft (600 m), the noise of a jet takeoff reaches about 110 decibels—approximately the same as an automobile horn only 3 ft (1 m) away.

Subjected to 45 decibels of noise, the average person cannot sleep. At 120 decibels the ear registers pain, but hearing damage begins at a much lower level, about 85 decibels. The duration of the exposure is also important. There is evidence that among young Americans hearing sensitivity is decreasing year by year because of exposure to noise, including excessively amplified music. Apart from hearing loss, such noise can cause lack of sleep, irritability, heartburn, indigestion, ulcers, high blood pressure, and possibly heart disease. One burst of noise, as from a passing truck, is known to alter endocrine, neurological, and cardiovascular functions in many individuals; prolonged or frequent exposure to such noise tends to make the physiological disturbances chronic. In addition, noise-induced stress creates severe tension in daily living and contributes to mental illness.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6897341 - 05/10/07 12:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If your ears ring when you take them off, it's harmful.

I read once that under 50% volume is safe on most units if you limit the duration. But who knows?


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6897659 - 05/10/07 03:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

it's actually the low frequencies that cause the most damage because we can't hear them.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6897726 - 05/10/07 03:24 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

> but from where would it be harmfull?

If you hear ringing in your ears, then it was harmful. (It may have been harmful before then, but ringing is an indication of damage.)


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Middleman]
    #6897796 - 05/10/07 03:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Middleman said:
it's actually the low frequencies that cause the most damage because we can't hear them.




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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6898358 - 05/10/07 05:54 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you can carry on a conversation with someone while listening to music on your headphones, that's the ideal volume level you want.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: adamj]
    #6898710 - 05/10/07 07:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Just remember, when you listen to music loudly and your ears ring, you'll never hear the frequencies you lost ever again.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6898893 - 05/10/07 08:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I go to 11.

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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Sunny]
    #6901487 - 05/11/07 12:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Holy crap, i have damaged ears.

i guess that means i can keep listening to music at 30.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: plexus]
    #6901968 - 05/11/07 02:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck that anything over normal speaking levels causes damage so i say fuck it and crank that shit up. Its seems these days any headphones i can get my hands on aren't loud enough at their worst for 6 to 8 hours of straight listening to make my ears hurt.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: StroFun]
    #6902001 - 05/11/07 02:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

> Its seems these days any headphones i can get my hands on aren't loud enough

A strong indication that you have already lost a good portion of your hearing.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Seuss]
    #6902053 - 05/11/07 02:37 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry...What???
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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #6902152 - 05/11/07 03:18 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Also depends on the quality of the headphones.

I know some speakers you can blast all day and your ears will be fine (generally very good speakers)... but others you can only stand for 10 min before your ears just get pissed off.

Studio Monitors at least...


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: adamj]
    #6902176 - 05/11/07 03:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I always listen at the max volume and my ears never ring afterwards so I guess if it did cause damage then that damage is already done. If I've already been listening at max volume regularly will continuing to do that damage them more or is there a level that they reach where at that volume no more will be done?


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6905518 - 05/12/07 01:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty much everything above 70-80dB is going to be bad for you.
That's the level of spoken word in a normal conversation, so the best way to know if your earphones are too loud is to take one off and compare loudness with someone's conversation.

This can be done almost everywhere and it's a pretty good method if your earphones provide insulation, as they should.

BTW I'll never get tired of saying this, NEVER use earplugs, always use earphones.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #6908520 - 05/13/07 04:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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NEVER use earplugs, always use earphones.



why?

actually I think 85 is the safety limit for work. up to that level you can safely listen for a long time. Why I was asking is because I have no idea how many db my headphones/earplugs produce.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: stefan]
    #6908628 - 05/13/07 06:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

It may be the safety limit for work but 85dB would produce hearing damage after 8 hours.

Earplugs are never to be used because you can't really tell how loud they are with that system I told you, the irritate an block the ear channel and they produce dangerous sound pressure levels because there's just no space for the waves to dissipate their energy before entering the ear channel.

Earphones also look cooler and have way better sound :cool:

Edit: Also, earplugs don't block other sounds so you need to turn the volume up to mask sounds like that of cars and so on. Good earphones must provide insulation thus allowing you to enjoy music at lower levels.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #6909410 - 05/13/07 12:40 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I use my at 11. Top notch over the ear Sennheisers. Sometimes the neighbors complain. I've been told for years that my ears would suffer but I'm 50 now and exhibit no more than normal hearing loss. Perhaps I'm a mutant but I've gotten away with listening to my shit very, very loud for decades.


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #6913813 - 05/14/07 01:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Colonel Kurtz Ph.D said:

Earplugs are never to be used because you can't really tell how loud they are with that system I told you, the irritate an block the ear channel and they produce dangerous sound pressure levels because there's just no space for the waves to dissipate their energy before entering the ear channel.





Can you provide a source on this? Earplugs are mandatory in thousands of workplaces and I doubt they would be if they were 'dangerous.'


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Re: Headphones: how loud is too loud? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6939364 - 05/19/07 07:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

for me the rule is, if my ears hurt or feel uncomfortable during or after, then I have to turn it down.
I no longer listen to music on buses, subways because there is so much noise already, its not worth it, and turning up my music will just add to it.
cars, walking, biking, in quiet rooms is when you can truly hear and appreciate music.
even just being outside in the city is enough sometimes to fuck up listening to music: cars, planes, generators, people, etc


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