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I am just wondering, how does one take possessive ownership of THE moon, in order to sell it off....!?

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Exactly the way they did with the Earth too... haven't we all been there at least once? ... we should know better

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And with all of these costs, they still view it as worthwhile to the human race to take this endevour....

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Wanna bet that human kind will find this business so fashionable?

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What do you think about our people from Earth selling lunar property,
and those new owners then strip mining the surface of the moon for our energy sucking benifit....?

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Exactly the same thing I was thinking before hearing all that...

PhanTomCat said:

That is interesting, that can be taken a lot of different ways....

If property = theft
then
ownership = ______....?


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Property is theft. -- P.J. Proudhon

Property is liberty. -- P.J. Proudhon

Property is impossible. -- P.J. Proudhon

Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


Proudhon, by piling up his contradictions this way, was not merely being French; he was trying to indicate that the abstraction "property" covers a variety of phenomena, some pernicious and some beneficial. Let us borrow a device from the semanticists and examine his triad with the subscripts attached for maximum clarity.

"Property1 is theft" means that property1 created by the artificial laws of feudal, capitalist, and other authoritarian societies, is based on armed robbery. Land titles, for instance, are clear examples of property1; swords and shot were the original coins of transaction.

"Property2 is liberty" means that property2, that which will be voluntarily honored in a voluntary (anarchist) society, is the foundation of the liberty in that society. The more people's interests are co-mingled and confused, as in collectivism, the more they will be stepping on each other's toes; only when the rules of the game declare clearly "This is mine and this is thine," and the game is voluntarily accepted as worthwhile by the parties to it, can true independence be achieved.

"Property3 is impossible" means that property3 (=property1) creates so much conflict of interest that society is in perpetual undeclared civil war and must eventually devour itself (and properties 1 and 3 as well). In short, Proudhon, in his own way, foresaw the Snafu Principle. He also foresaw that communism would only perpetuate and aggravate the conflicts, and that anarchy is the only viable alternative to this chaos.

It is averred, of course, that property2 will come into existence only in a totally voluntary society; many forms of it already exist. The error of most alleged libertarians -- especially the followers of the egregious Ayn Rand -- is to assume that all property1 is property2. The distinction can be made by any IQ above 70 and is absurdly simple. The test is to ask, of any title of ownership you are asked to accept or which you ask others to accept, "Would this be honored in a free society of rationalists, or does it require the armed might of a Stateto force people to honor it?" If it be the former, it is property2 and represents liberty; if it be the latter, it is property1 and represents theft.

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PhanTomCat said:

Wanna bet that human kind will find this business so fashionable?

Ya know, they said that a few of the HUGE hotel chains had purchase a large amount of lunar property....
In the name of science, I think I would enjoy, I mean, I think it would be good to study such a different place for a work retreat.... 


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And Paris Hilton will do the opening party

PhanTomCat said:

I am just wondering, how does one take possessive ownership of THE moon, in order to sell it off....!? 

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aaei67 said:

PhanTomCat said:

I am just wondering, how does one take possessive ownership of THE moon, in order to sell it off....!? 

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Bring a flag.

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That already happened too

PhanTomCat said:

I watched a Discovery channel show called "Moon for Sale" just now....
There is actually a guy named Dennis Hope that is selling "lunar property",
actual plots of land on the moon, and has been doing so for several years....
Said that he sells about 1500 properties a DAY, and has made over 9 Million dollars doing it so far....!? 

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Yes, its pretty much fraud. They are selling Mars as well. Its simply a testament to how stupid people can be.

aaei67 said:

PhanTomCat said:

I am just wondering, how does one take possessive ownership of THE moon, in order to sell it off....!? 

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Bring a flag.

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NiamhNyx said:

This pisses me right off.

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Don't get mad yet, the mining is a long ways off....
Physicists are working hard to find ways of better energy sources.... 

It does sound wierd to know that in our future, we could see the surface of the moon be altered by manmade means.... 


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