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Offlinekadakuda
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Crossing Cannabis with other Genera?
    #6889089 - 05/08/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Has it been done? can it be done? i am talking about crossing it with something of a different genera. for example hops or others in the family? i know hops and weed can be grafted and i have read failed attempts at crossing. just wondering if anyone has seen any cross outside of its own genera.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: kadakuda]
    #6889564 - 05/08/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Hi there... I don´t think it can be done, you can cross horses and mules but you´ll have donkeys then, they´re sterile and not a new species nor a hybrid.
BTW, hops and weed cannot be grafted, thats pure lore.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: felixhigh]
    #6889592 - 05/08/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

there is only one plant that u can graft with pot and that Hops like the plant used to make beer, I think it was the u could graft pot onto it but not the other way around.

One of the most persistent myths in marijuana lore concerns grafting Cannabis to its closest relative. Humulus, the hops plant of beer-making fame. The myth is that a hops scion (shoot or top portion of the stem) grafted to a marijuana stock (lower stem and root) will contain the active ingredients of marijuana. The beauty of such a graft is that it would be difficult to identify as marijuana and, possible, the plant would not be covered under marijuana statutes. Unfortunately, the myth is false. It is possible to successfully graft Cannabis with Humulus, but the hops portion will not contain any cannabinoids.

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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: felixhigh]
    #6889730 - 05/08/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Hi there... I don´t think it can be done, you can cross horses and mules but you´ll have donkeys then, they´re sterile and not a new species nor a hybrid.
BTW, hops and weed cannot be grafted, thats pure lore.


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Actually it's the other way around with the donkeys and mules:grin: horse+donkey=mule

And I've read reports on hops and cannabis being grafted, I'm pretty certain it can be done. They are pretty closely related. I do not think they could be crossed though..


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Nalim]
    #6889861 - 05/08/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

they have put tomatoes plants on a weed plant before and hops there is a guy trying to take THC out of weed and put it in dandelions so it will be everywhere but thats genetics not what you are looking for. but I have seen info on working with a cannabis plant and you will have a hard time getting it to work they are very complicated and its like putting a tiger claw on a monkey and no something to do in your back yard.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #6889905 - 05/08/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

does this have anything to do with entheodome's discovery? :lol:


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #6889913 - 05/08/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lmao


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: royer]
    #6891203 - 05/08/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

ya i am pretty sure they have been grafted, btu i have not done so myself. clearly a grafted hop will not have thc, the resin glands are completely different! i am nto interested in grafting, i am interested in making a hybrid (theoretically, i dont grow either plants). even if sterile that would be ok, make clones. hops was just an example cause its related...frankly i dont care what the cross as long as it it outside of the cannabis genus.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: kadakuda]
    #6891614 - 05/08/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I havnt heard much recent news but cannabis culture had an article about this awhile back. Its called Australian Bastard Cannabis or ABC.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1485.html
then
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/1651.html

Also see the strain Dizzy from spice brothers.
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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Legoulash]
    #6891909 - 05/09/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

The only 2 plants known to b in the cannibinacea genus are Humulus lupus & Cannabis sp & apparently they dont x so it looks very doubtful, Genetic engineering should b able to bring about POTatoes :wink:


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: shruman]
    #6892267 - 05/09/07 04:24 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I want me an ABC!!!!!:hissyfit:


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Nalim]
    #6892298 - 05/09/07 04:46 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

shruman, you need some taxonomy lessons. they are in the same family not genus. humulus is the genus.

those abc's look fucking cool! thanks for the link.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Nalim]
    #6892359 - 05/09/07 05:23 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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I want me an ABC!!!!!:hissyfit:





They're a waste of time, yeilds and quality are reportedly pathetic.  It's just a mutant dwarf with downs syndrome.  Good for nothing but novelty.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Hanky]
    #6892366 - 05/09/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I want novelty:hissyfit:

and I love experimenting, so crossing it with real cannabis could become my new hobby.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Nalim]
    #6892368 - 05/09/07 05:31 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Fair enough. I guess you've seen ducks foot?


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Hanky]
    #6892369 - 05/09/07 05:31 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, just a mutant, there used to be some thing similar around, from China, with buds growing on the leaf stalks. Low yielding novelty, but just as illegal as a high production, decent plant in court.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Hanky]
    #6892380 - 05/09/07 05:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I have, might get one later on, haven't got the cash for any more genetics for the moment..


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Loki]
    #6892391 - 05/09/07 05:44 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, just a mutant, there used to be some thing similar around, from China, with buds growing on the leaf stalks. Low yielding novelty, but just as illegal as a high production, decent plant in court.




I've seen pics of something like that, it had little buds growing where the leaf fingers join.


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Hanky]
    #6892522 - 05/09/07 06:59 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

well i am not sure how illegal a hybrid would be as there would be little proof as such.  my idea was that it may be possible to eventually breed a thc containing plant that looks nothing like weed, and possible scentless?

either way, it is also extremely interesting to me as well.  too bad the punishment for weed here can be worse than even the USA!  so i wont test anything out :frown:


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Re: Crossing Cannabis with other Genera? [Re: Hanky]
    #6893264 - 05/09/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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Nast said:
I want me an ABC!!!!!:hissyfit:





They're a waste of time, yeilds and quality are reportedly pathetic.  It's just a mutant dwarf with downs syndrome.  Good for nothing but novelty.




this leaf pattern is not exclusive to ABC, and Dizzy.  There have been a few pictures of these leaf patterns out of breeders packs.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=39761


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