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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: pokermush]
#6854432 - 04/30/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have to disagree. Personally, I want more cops (preferrably ALL of them) to think that marijuana isn't a serious crime.
That wouldn't accomplish anything. Cops don't make the laws. What they think about drugs is irrelevant other than to the extent that they vote like the rest of us.
Someone whose job it is to carry a gun is by definition in a safety sensitive position and should be drug tested.
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: psilosibling]
#6854442 - 04/30/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are sheltered people. Planting evidence, or beatings from the police, are nothing new. Think of any street thug and what he does, thats what cops do. Cop in my city has failed drug tests for crack 5 times, still on the force, not suspended, demoted, not shit. He will smoke your crack in front of you, then take you to jail. You want justice? Go buy a gun
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: resin]
#6854507 - 04/30/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Police represent authority but have none of their own. It's just a pathetic power trip for them.. that's why they are pigs.
Oink
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pokermush
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: Diploid]
#6854726 - 04/30/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: I have to disagree. Personally, I want more cops (preferrably ALL of them) to think that marijuana isn't a serious crime.
That wouldn't accomplish anything. Cops don't make the laws. What they think about drugs is irrelevant other than to the extent that they vote like the rest of us.
Someone whose job it is to carry a gun is by definition in a safety sensitive position and should be drug tested.
The cops usually have a great deal of discretion in how strictly laws are enforced, and whether someone is written up for marijuana offenses. Until the laws are changed, I would prefer to see lax enforcement of the marijuana laws. I really don't think anyone should be locked up for marijuana crimes. Too many officers have been miseducated just like I was when I thought that marijuana was a dangerous drug that had no legitimate place in our society.
The unenforceability of prohibition was one of the things that helped get it repealed. If cops were reluctant to enforce marijuana laws, I think it would be a step in the right direction.
Also, police tend to have more influence that you and me when it comes to local laws.
I agree that anyone carrying a firearm, or operating machinery, or other potentially dangerous activities should be unimpaired. But I'd hate to see a cop (or anyone else!) lose his job because he smokes weed in his time off.
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: pokermush]
#6854791 - 04/30/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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pokermush said:
I have to disagree. Personally, I want more cops (preferrably ALL of them) to think that marijuana isn't a serious crime. I would oppose any marijuana drug-testing for officers.
Whether or not they are getting drug tested has no bearing on how they feel about it being a serious offense. If you got drug tested for your job, would it suddenly make you think that smoking pot is a serious crime? I think not. I personally think that they should be getting drug tested. Doctors have to be drug tested too, and I know from personal experience that the majority of them wish they could toke a little on the side. But look at it this way; those cops had that marijuana ON THEM, ready to plant it on that women. Who wants to bet that those bags were for their personal use?
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: pokermush]
#6855119 - 04/30/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: resin]
#6855129 - 04/30/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: pokermush]
#6855149 - 04/30/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6856177 - 04/30/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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They'll probably die in jail, I bet murderer cops get things worse then even sex offenders. Fuck pigs
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pokermush
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#6856273 - 04/30/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lily_Morgan said: But look at it this way; those cops had that marijuana ON THEM, ready to plant it on that women. Who wants to bet that those bags were for their personal use?
They had 3 bags. Sounds to me like they took it on the raid "just in case" something went wrong. Apalling.
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This isn't a problem of race or class.
Are you denying that a majority of the victims (& the most innocent of victims such as the old lady murdered by police) of the "War on Drugs" are poor and/or nonwhite?
That's faulty logic, just as if I was to claim that the drug problem is mostly fueled by "black America" (I don't claim that, it's just an example).
Race does not drive this issue, except in rare exceptions. Racism isn't acceptable anymore, including your labeling of "white America". Such language only serves to fan the flames of racism where the coals are still hot. It's time to move on.
I find it ironic that someone who counts him/herself a "progressive" would talk that way.
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: pokermush]
#6858062 - 05/01/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6867444 - 05/03/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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entheogenicpeace why do you only discuss the white people who are racist against others. it goes both ways. Not everyone is going to get along its not the color of the skin it is the complete difference of the cultures that instills the negative feelings. It is almost impossible to get along with a culture that is so opposite yours.
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: plato]
#6870523 - 05/04/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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taykatoak
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: psilosibling]
#6883264 - 05/07/07 03:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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pity they aint facing murder because its vengeance id want
edit:sounded like an idle threat
what happened with the pigs that shot the old man down cause he didnt want them doing stings in his own front yard?
Edited by taykatoak (05/07/07 03:57 AM)
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: psilosibling]
#6884841 - 05/07/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everybody gets a check....
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The FBI gets a check.. The narcotics officers get checks. The drug dog trainer gets a check. The K-9 officer gets a check. The prosecutor gets a check.
Everyone gets a check, except for the informants who get CASH.
Who cares if an innocent grandmother is dead and our rights are trampled. Everybody still gets a check.
(Plus health insurance, vacation time, and retirement program.)
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: lonestar2004]
#6884945 - 05/07/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd rather them receive a few pieces of bullet in their skull.
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: lonestar2004]
#6885019 - 05/07/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep. I like your picture. I never used mind there being a gun law in the UK. Now a little smarter and a little older i realize that gun laws are introduced by fascist Governments who use propaganda to attack Guns over many years, gradually until it's majority vote. Propaganda from T.V shows to newspapers to black ops. They make it seem the 'left' thing to do. When reality.. they just fucked you over. The American Government WILL sooner or later introduce a gun law, probably beginning with hand guns, then a year or two later rifles and then it all. These things happen gradually, when you realize and see the patterns.. you're 2 steps ahead and you've seen it coming. In order for Governments to get what they want they structure it and gradually get it. Does anyone else see the patterns? Do you notice? ...do you care?
Guns are banned in the UK after a suspicious massacre with lots of unanswered questions from back in '96. Call me a conspiracy theorists but i believe there was more to it.. but i'll never know for sure. ..all i do know is Governments aint what they seem. None of them are.. some people believe in democracy. I think it's a lot of shit to make you feel like you have freedom but you really have none.
Any similarities...
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: psilosibling]
#6885155 - 05/07/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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IMO No Knock raids will end soon because of GUNS. Its going to take a dozen or so dead cops to put an end to KGB-like no-knock raids...
check out this link...
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/index.php
they want the assets.
"The proceeds from the sale of forfeited assets such as real property, vehicles, businesses, financial instruments, vessels, aircraft and jewelry are deposited into the AFF and are subsequently used to further law enforcement initiatives. “
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/assets.html
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Re: Cops Admit To Planting Marijuana on 92 Year Old Woman Killed in Botched Drug Raid [Re: lonestar2004]
#6887950 - 05/08/07 05:08 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Interesting. There's been hundreds of these botched raid in USA. There has been a few in UK in the last year.
The mi5 said last week that there are over 2000 terrorists being 'watched' in the UK.. what a load of total propaganda.. The UK aint that big of a place. The family of each and every one of those terrorists must be on every street corner in the UK. Total fear tactics. Total propaganda. I get angry when i hear lies like this because i know so many have been sucked into it. So many will be like "Look there's terrorists everywhere. I WANT biometric ID cards mandatory. The Government says this will protect us from Terrorists!!"
The truth is, ID cards are as useful at preventing terrorism than number plates are at preventing car crashes.
People never learn, they live the same loop.. There's lessons to be taught from every dictator. The Governments EVEN learn from them. How you think propaganda is so advanced now.. Nazi Germany.
It's not just technology that has advanced since then...
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