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    #6883388 - 05/07/07 07:39 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6883425 - 05/07/07 08:10 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Why is any drug illegal?


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? *DELETED* [Re: Nalim]
    #6883431 - 05/07/07 08:13 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6883439 - 05/07/07 08:17 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

its illegal because it alters your level of consiousness to, what the government thinks, is an unsafe level.

In other words, its because it gets you high.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6883442 - 05/07/07 08:17 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

lot of pharms have major health risks
even food
alcohol


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: cpw1971]
    #6883448 - 05/07/07 08:20 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

It's illegal because it is a mind-altering drug with no scientifically proven medicinal value. Same reason most other drugs are illegal.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: cpw1971]
    #6883452 - 05/07/07 08:21 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

I would assume DMT is illegal because it's perceived as dangerous by the government and is also old enough that it couldn't be patented and used to make money if it was legal. A lot of people still see psychedelics as drugs, not as visionary tools. Until that changes, DMT will be illegal.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: kaniz]
    #6883453 - 05/07/07 08:22 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

makes you wonder why alcohol isn't illegal...its addictive, is bad for your health, and causes many car accidents and deaths which attritubute to the growing cost of health care.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #6883456 - 05/07/07 08:25 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Because the government bans things they dont understand...

...and the country is controlled by religious nutbags, whos religion would be doomed if everyone started using DMT and saw the truth. Cant have people knowing the truth, could be dangerous for them...and the good ol government loves to make sure we dont do anything dangerous to ourselves.


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    #6883461 - 05/07/07 08:27 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6883474 - 05/07/07 08:33 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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i understand what your all saying and its all very true, but things the government can't actually say:

what are the reasons that are put forward by the government to its legality?




I doubt it has been specifically addressed. Its classified as a hallucinogen, and scheduled accordingly.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: dedjam]
    #6883478 - 05/07/07 08:36 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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what are the reasons that are put forward by the government to its legality?




It's a drug that is morally wrong, severely impairs your perception of reality, causes long term psychological disorders and has no proven medical uses.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #6883605 - 05/07/07 09:57 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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makes you wonder why alcohol isn't illegal...its addictive, is bad for your health, and causes many car accidents and deaths which attritubute to the growing cost of health care.



Yeah, my uncle is currently in the hospital cause his liver went out from addictive drinking :frown: .
on the subject of DMT: it is illegal because it makes you hallucinate. also because the government cannot create it themselves (in sufficient amounts to out-do drug dealers) to put taxes on it. why let people have fun if the government doesn't get any money from it?


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: Zunox1]
    #6883668 - 05/07/07 10:28 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

I like to think taking DMT will show you the 'truth' (most and all drugs will show you the truth), so the government bans them.

When I smoke Marry J, I talk about how the "Big Brother" theory is all true. The government is hiding things from us and also they are only showing us what they want.

This is why all drugs are illegal, they dont want us to know the 'truth'!


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: half9]
    #6883693 - 05/07/07 10:37 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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I like to think taking DMT will show you the 'truth' (most and all drugs will show you the truth), so the government bans them.

When I smoke Marry J, I talk about how the "Big Brother" theory is all true. The government is hiding things from us and also they are only showing us what they want.

This is why all drugs are illegal, they dont want us to know the 'truth'!




Honestly, I have to tell you people...I cringe when I read simplifications like this. Believe it or not, the government is not a tightly-knit conspiratorial unit aiming to keep people dumb...not on a conscious level at least. The idea that drugs are illegal because they expand consciousness and expose the system for its frailties, is only partially true...and more on an unconscious level than anything.

There are REAL reasons why the "drug war" exists. There are real reasons why drugs are illegal. I refer you to the hedonism of the 1960's and the 1970's, the absolute abandon and carelessness with which these substances exploded on to the cultural scene. Why are psychedelic drugs illegal? Because in a misguided attempt at "revolution," the scenes of the 60's and 70's were overrun by lazy, irresponsible people whose reasons for employing psychedelics were almost entirely selfish and hedonistic.

Like kaniz said, DMT is illegal because it is a hallucinogenic drug with no known medicinal value.

Now, obviously you and I can argue and agree that the government's definition of "medicinal value" or its need for a substance to have "medicinal value" is misguided and shortsighted, and that perhaps the government, due to the unconscious wish not to have people open their minds, doesn't want to even take the time to explore the possible value of DMT.

But for drug users to assume that the reason any drug is illegal is "because it opens our minds, man!" is not only ignorant, it is counterproductive to the cause of drug policy reform.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6883741 - 05/07/07 10:51 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Some of you guys are incredibly naive. Just as posted above drug use was rampant and careless. People did get hurt. People did go permanently crazy. You want to legalize DMT? Team up with Strassman and show the goverment there are legitimate uses for DMT.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: thehandtruck]
    #6883754 - 05/07/07 10:58 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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Some of you guys are incredibly naive. Just as posted above drug use was rampant and careless. People did get hurt. People did go permanently crazy. You want to legalize DMT? Team up with Strassman and show the goverment there are legitimate uses for DMT.




Proof of someone going permanently crazy on DMT? You stated it, back it up.

Strassman is a joke, even amoung his peers.

You want to legalize DMT? Vote for Ron Paul.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: dedjam]
    #6883764 - 05/07/07 11:02 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

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Strassman is a joke, even amoung his peers.




First. Human. Psychedelic. Research. In 40 Years.

That's no joke to me.

That is a foot in the door.


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6883838 - 05/07/07 11:25 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

Government doesnt want you to feel that good


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Re: Why is DMT illegal? [Re: Phish20]
    #6883928 - 05/07/07 11:55 AM (14 years, 3 days ago)

I was waiting for someone to bring up the knee-jerk, reactionary government instead of the huge conspiratorial monster government everyone on this side of thinking seems to believe in.

The government, along with the voting public, got frightened! They weren't ready for the kind of consciousness introduced by psychedelics, and they thought they were doing a good thing by illegalizing them.

When the large portion of psychedelic using citizens is responsible and productive, and able to prove the benefits of pyschedelics, then the idea will be more easily digested by the public (UDV anyone?).


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