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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6864520 - 05/02/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Of the 535 members of the U.S. Congress, only was has a child, or even a grand-child, in the armed services. Not one rabidly militaristic Republican member of Congress who hides behind the meaningless propaganda phrase of "Support the Troops" has to go to bed at night worrying about the fate of their children oversees. They are the most despicable chicken-hawk cowards in America.








LIE!


Link please....


One Republican Congressman running for President of the United States (Duncan hunter) has a son who just re-enlisted.


"His son, Duncan Duane Hunter, a Marine and two time Iraq veteran.."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Hunter


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6864772 - 05/02/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Bush to Congress: Don't Tell Generals How to Do Their Jobs

Isn't that what they say right before a military coup d'etat?


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6864839 - 05/02/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Most Americans are brain dead. They are Too busy playing with their TOYS and not paying attention to what is going on in the rest of the world.

American Idol , play stations , I Pods..........

Meanwhile no one reads , no one remembers history.




Perhaps, but at the same time I think people feel and thoroughly believe that they are helpless. And it's quite possibly true.


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6864855 - 05/02/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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So, if my company has been making medical supplies for wounded soldiers since WWII, my children should be forced to fight a war that you don't agree with?




I don't know your position in this company, but I said the children of the executives & large shareholders, not the children of the average worker (a number of whom likely already have children stuck in Iraq & Afghanistan) Further, as I said to another poster, the point was not that I was advocating using their children as cannon fodder on behalf of the U.S. Empire, but rather that they would withdraw U.S. military presence from Iraq if it was their children being killed, maimed, & becoming psychologically deranged; or even at risk of such.

As was the case in Vietnam, as long as the children of the poor & unrepresented were dying, there was little opposition to the war among middle-to-upper class families. Only after the draft started & their children were being sent oversees was there a concerted effort by the wealthier & more powerful segments of U.S. society to rethink & ultimately abandon U.S. militarism in Southeast Asia.






As a disabled veteran, I for one, came from a middle class family that was involved in the current war. Please cite your referances relating to this issue. (ever hear of Pat Tillman?????)


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: lonestar2004]
    #6867207 - 05/03/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: wilshire]
    #6867230 - 05/03/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: wilshire]
    #6867290 - 05/03/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #6867356 - 05/03/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6867686 - 05/03/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ok, reality check time.

- the united states has not annexed the territory of another nation since the spanish american war.

- the last time the united states gained territory was more than 50 years ago.

- at the end of world war two, the united states stood as the world's premier military, technological, and industrial force. no one else was close. it could have taken over the world. instead, it rebuilt the nations destroyed in the war, destroyed its weapons, and brought its troops home. it could have taken over europe, and probably the world - but did not. can you think of any other time in history where a nation stood poised to easily crush its neighbors and annex their territory, but simply chose not to?

- for the last 20 years, the united states has once again been the world's leading military power. it has not added one square mile to its territory. despite military victories over several foreign countries, the united states has still not expanded or acquired new territory. in fact, the united states has voluntarily relinquished control over economically and militarily important territory such as the panama canal.

- the united states has foreign military bases. these bases are there with the permission of the host countries, which usually share the facilities. these bases do not exist to exert military pressure on the host governments and are there with their permission. do you mean to tell us that germany is part of the U.S. empire because there are U.S. bases there?


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: wilshire]
    #6867815 - 05/03/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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wilshire said:
- at the end of world war two, the united states stood as the world's premier military, technological, and industrial force. no one else was close. it could have taken over the world.




Sort of true. There is no way the United States was in any position to try and take over the Soviet Union in 1945, much less the world. Even if we had the military reserves to win WWII and then turn around and start conquering, there is no way the people would have supported it. Not for a second. The entire world was ready for the war to end, and if you think that the morale of the entire world is an insignficant factor in the consideration of a military success you are way off. Also, the Soviets had the nuke within a few years, so the notion that no one posed a threat to the US is pretty far-fetched.


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can you think of any other time in history where a nation stood poised to easily crush its neighbors and annex their territory, but simply chose not to?




So? The US deserves congratulations for being at the forefront of an era of cold war? So we didn't conquer countries ourselves...but you have to admit that we have played a pretty heavy fucking hand (I'm talking military action here) in ensuring that as many countries as possible are aligned with our motives.

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do you mean to tell us that germany is part of the U.S. empire because there are U.S. bases there?




In a sense they are. We just haven't hade to invade them since 1944 because their government cooperates with ours. If it didn't, it might be a different story.

The main thing I disagree with about your post is that at the end of WWII we were in a position to take over the world. I don't think that is accurate at all.


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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: gluke bastid]
    #6868810 - 05/03/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

America had nukes and no other nation did. As long as that was the case, America could have taken over the world (including the Soviets).

Of course once others got nukes that situation changed.

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Re: President Bush refuses to sign surrender bill [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #6869448 - 05/03/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I understand that you stand behind your statement. I asked if you had any examples to cite your position. Here is mine:




http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-09.cfm



Who Are the Recruits? The Demographic Characteristics of U.S. Military Enlistment, 2003–2005
by Tim Kane, Ph.D.
Center for Data Analysis Report #06-09


A pillar of conventional wisdom about the U.S. military is that the quality of volunteers has been degraded after the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. Examples of the voices making this claim range from the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and New York Daily News [1] to Michael Moore’s pseudo-documentary Fahrenheit 9/11. Some insist that minorities and the underprivileged are over­represented in the military. Others accuse the U.S. Army of accepting unqualified enlistees in a futile attempt to meet its recruiting goals in the midst of an unpopular war.[2]

A report published by The Heritage Foundation in November 2005 examined the issue and could not substantiate any degradation in troop quality by comparing military enlistees in 1999 to those in 2003. It is possible that troop quality did not degrade until after the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003, when patriotism was high. A common assumption is that the Army experienced difficulty getting qualified enlistees in 2005 and was subse­quently forced to lower its standards. This report revisits the issue by examining the full recruiting classes for all branches of the U.S. military for every year from 2003 to 2005.

The current findings show that the demo­graphic characteristics of volunteers have contin­ued to show signs of higher, not lower, quality. Quality is a difficult concept to apply to soldiers, or to human beings in any context, and it should be understood here in context. Regardless of the standards used to screen applicants, the average quality of the people accepted into any organiza­tion can be assessed only by using measurable cri­teria, which surely fail to account for intangible characteristics. In the military, it is especially questionable to claim that measurable characteris­tics accurately reflect what really matters: cour­age, honor, integrity, loyalty, and leadership.

Those who have been so quick to suggest that today’s wartime recruits represent lesser quality, lower standards, or lower class should be expected make an airtight case. Instead, they have cited selective evidence, which is balanced by a much clearer set of evidence showing improving troop quality.

Indeed, in many criteria, each year shows advancement, not decline, in measurable qualities of new enlistees. For example, it is commonly claimed that the military relies on recruits from poorer neighborhoods because the wealthy will not risk death in war. This claim has been advanced without any rigorous evidence. Our review of Pen­tagon enlistee data shows that the only group that is lowering its participation in the military is the poor. The percentage of recruits from the poorest American neighborhoods (with one-fifth of the U.S. population) declined from 18 percent in 1999 to 14.6 percent in 2003, 14.1 percent in 2004, and 13.7 percent in 2005.

This report updates the previous Heritage Foun­dation report, with data on all U.S. recruits during 2004 and 2005. We introduce the term “wartime recruits” to identify volunteer enlistees in all branches during 2003, 2004, and 2005. Like the previous report,[3] the analysis considers the follow­ing characteristics:

Household income,
Level of education,
Race/ethnicity, and
Regional/rural origin.
In summary, the additional years of recruit data (2004–2005) sup­port the previous finding that U.S. military recruits are more similar than dissimilar to the American youth population. The slight dif­ferences are that wartime U.S. mil­itary enlistees are better educated, wealthier, and more rural on aver­age than their civilian peers.

Recruits have a higher percent­age of high school graduates and representation from Southern and rural areas. No evidence indicates exploitation of racial minorities (either by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas). Finally, the distri­bution of household income of recruits is noticeably higher than that of the entire youth population.

Demographic evidence discredits the argument that a draft is necessary to enforce representation from racial and socioeconomic groups. Addition­ally, three of the four branches of the armed forces met their recruiting goals in fiscal year 2005, and Army reenlistments are the highest in the past five years. A draft is not necessary to increase the size of the active-duty forces. Our analysis using Pentagon data on wartime volunteers effectively shatters the case for reinstating the draft.

Household Income of Recruits

Like their peers in 1999 and 2003, recruits in 2004 and 2005 came primarily from middle-class areas. Poor areas are proportionally underrepre­sented in the wartime years (2003–2005).

The Department of Defense (DOD) does not track family income data for recruits, and there are no individual income data for enlistees. Military service is the first full-time job for most of them. We approx­imate each recruit’s household income by using the median household income of his or her hometown ZIP code.



Much of the analysis in this paper (including this section) uses five-digit Census ZIP code tabulation areas (ZCTAs) as the unit of analysis. The Census Bureau uses ZCTAs to approximate U.S. Postal Service ZIP codes. In most cases, ZCTAs corre­spond to postal ZIP codes. For exam­ple, Representative Charles Rangel (D–NY), who advocated reinstating the draft in 2003, resides in the postal ZIP code 10037. The corresponding five-digit ZCTA 10037, shown in Fig­ure 1, had a 1999 median household income of $26,561. In 2004, six recruits originated from the area. In 2005, two more recruits from that ZIP code enlisted.

By assigning each recruit the median 1999 household income for his hometown ZIP code as deter­mined from Census 2000, the mean income for 2004 recruits was $43,122 (in 1999 dollars). For 2005 recruits, it was $43,238 (in 1999 dol­lars). These are increases over the mean incomes for the 1999 cohort ($41,141) and 2003 cohort ($42,822). The national median published in Cen­sus 2000 was $41,994. This indicates that, on aver­age, the 2004 and 2005 recruit populations come from even wealthier areas than their peers who enlisted in 1999 and 2003.

When comparing these wartime recruits (2003– 2005) to the resident population ages 18–24 (as recorded in Census 2000), areas with median household income levels between $35,000 and $79,999 were overrepresented, along with income categories between $85,000 and $94,999. (See Chart 2.) Though the mainstream media continue to portray the war in Iraq as unpopular, this evi­dence suggests that the United States is not sending the poor to die for the interests of the rich.

With the addition of data for the 2004 and 2005 recruits, the quintile trends noted in the previous report are even more striking. (See Table 1.) From 2003 to 2005, the representation of the highest-income quintile rose 0.68 percentage point, from 22.17 percent to 22.85 percent. As conflict in Iraq continues, youth from wealthy areas continue to volunteer for duty despite increased risk. Addition­ally, over the course of these three recruit years, representation from the poorest quintile has decreased dramatically. The representation among recruits of the lowest-income quintile fell nearly a full percentage point, from 14.61 percent in 2003 to 13.66 percent in 2005.



This change in proportional representation of areas based on ZCTA median household income is even more noteworthy when compared to the pre-9/11 recruits in the 1999 cohort, in which 18.6 percent of the recruits came from areas in the wealthiest quintile and 18.0 percent came from areas in the poorest quintile, indicating underrep­resentation for both the high and low ends of the income distribution. As shown in Chart 3, each of the top three quintiles increased in representation from 2003 to 2005, and all were overrepresented in comparison to the Census 2000 population ages 18–24.







Education

Educational achievement is the characteristic most commonly cited as evidence of lower military standards driven by the Iraq War. While some mea­sures, such as the higher percentage of Category IV recruits in the Army, are cited, other measures, such as the higher percentage of Category I recruits, are ignored. In general, the higher quality of recruits compared to equivalent civilian popula­tion has held steady during the war years.

The previous study noted the significant differ­ence between the national recruit high school grad­uation rate of 98 percent and the national youth graduation rate of 75 percent. This strong distinc­tion continues among the 2004 and 2005 recruits when compared to the national educational attain­ment levels reported by the Census 2004 American Community Survey (ACS).[4]

Given the nature of the military rank structure, most enlisted recruits do not have a college edu­cation or degree. Members of the armed forces with higher education are more often commis­sioned officers (lieutenant and above). In 2004, 92.1 percent of active-duty officer accessions held baccalaureate degrees or higher.[5] From 2000 to 2005, between 10 percent and 17 percent of active-duty officer accessions held advanced degrees, and between 35 percent and 45 percent of the active-duty officer corps held advanced degrees.[6] This indicates that officers continued their educa­tion during the course of their mili­tary service.

Many enlisted personnel are drawn to the benefits offered by the armed forces that allow them to obtain funding for college. In recent years, incentives to join the military have increased, providing more of the enlisted recruits with additional resources to finance their education. Although only about 7 percent of recruits for 2003–2005 entered the military with some college experi­ence, over 11 percent of the 2004 active component enlisted force had some college experience.[7]

Additionally, in the most recent edition of Population Representation in the Military Services, the Department of Defense reported that the mean reading level of 2004 recruits is a full grade level higher than that of the comparable youth population.[8] Fewer than 2 percent of wartime recruits have no high school creden­tials. Table 2 shows the breakdown for the educational attainment of the war­time recruit cohorts. The national high school graduation rate taken from the Census 2004 ACS is 79.8 percent.

In previous years, the Department of Defense adhered to a policy of accepting no more than 2 percent of recruits scoring in Category IV on the Armed Forces Qualifying Test (AFQT), the stan­dardized test administered to all recruits to deter­mine eligibility. Category IV indicates that the individual scored between the 21st and 30th percen­tiles. Congress accepted a revised policy of up to 4 percent to allow for flexibility in the current recruit­ing market. Despite three of the four branches accepting limited numbers of Category IV recruits, in November 2005, the media criticized the Army for accepting a high number of recruits from Cate­gory IV.[9]








In fiscal year 2005, 4.4 percent of Army recruits scored in Category IV, and the Army is optimistic that it will remain within policy guidelines with its recruits for fiscal year 2006. For the first three quarters of fiscal year 2006 (October 2005–June 2006), 3.4 percent of Army recruits scored in Cat­egory IV. While the Army has been criticized for its AFQT score policy, only 1.2 percent of Marine Corps recruits for the first three quarters of fiscal year 2006 scored in Category IV, and the Air Force and the Navy have no such recruits for this period. In 2005, only 2.2 percent of the recruits from all four branches in fiscal year 2005 scored in Cate­gory IV. By comparison, because the Army does not accept any recruits below the 21st percentile, the nature of AFQT scoring indicates that 20 percent of the comparable civilian population would score below Category IV.

The policy regarding high school graduation status (or the equivalent) remains stringent across all four branches of the military. At least 90 per­cent of recruits must be high school diploma graduates (which does not include equivalency). Recruit accessions from the first three quarters of fiscal year 2006 are above this guideline in all branches except the Army. As of May 2006, 83.1 percent of accepted Army recruits met this requirement, which is still a greater percentage than the national graduation rate including equiv­alency. Additionally, for fiscal year 2006, the Army is in step with the other three branches in meeting the overall DOD guideline that more than 60 per­cent of enlistees should score above the 50th per­centile on the AFQT.

The military defines a “high quality” recruit as one who has scored above the 50th percentile on the AFQT and has a high school diploma. The percentage of high-quality recruits has increased from 57 percent in 2001 to 64 percent in 2005 (67 percent in 2004),[10] indicating not only that the military is accepting intelligent and well-educated recruits, but also that the representa­tion of these recruits has increased strongly since the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

While the military has changed its policies to allow flexibility in recruiting standards, it has cer­tainly not abandoned them. The current guidelines allow each force the flexibility to accept recruits who satisfy only one criterion: either a high school diploma or an above-average score on the AFQT, which is a standard equal to or exceeding the gen­eral youth population.

Race

According to the 2004 Census ACS, 75.6 per­cent of the national adult population self-identifies as belonging to the racial category white alone. In both 2004 and 2005, 73.1 percent of recruits were classified as white alone. This indicates a recruit-to-population ratio of 0.97, with 1.00 indicating an exact proportional representation. (See Table 4.) Whites are the most proportionally represented racial group among recruits. Excluding the group of a combination of two or more races, minority representation varies between being moderately proportional to extremely disproportional. The most overrepresented group is Native Hawaiian/ Other Pacific Islander, with a ratio of 7.49 in 2005, or an overrepresentation of 649 percent. The Asian category is the most underrepresented group, with a ratio of 0.69 in 2005.

Similar ratios appear in the proportional repre­sentation of racial groups among Army recruits in both 2004 and 2005, with the exception that blacks are more proportionally represented among 2005 Army recruits than they are in the total recruit population. The change in propor­tional representation of blacks among military recruits is a notable change from the 2003 cohort to the 2004 and 2005 cohorts. In the last three quarters of the 2003 recruit year, blacks were largely overrepresented, with a recruit-to-popula­tion ratio of 1.32 among all recruits and 1.44 among Army recruits. For 2004, these ratios were 1.19 and 1.17, respectively. In 2005, they were 1.07 and 0.96, respectively, which indicates that in the past two years of military recruits, the pro­portion of blacks in the military approached the proportion of blacks in the population.

The 2005 Army recruit-to-population ratio for blacks is 0.96. Additionally, they are more propor­tionally represented in the Army than whites, who have an Army recruit-to-population ratio of 0.95.



The 100 three-digit[11] ZCTAs with the highest proportion of blacks (in any combination of other races) according to Census 2000 contained 14.63 percent of the adult population. The recruits from these areas represent 14.09 percent of the 2003 cohort, 14.14 percent of the 2004 cohort, and 13.37 percent of the 2005 cohort. This indicates that these areas are not being overtly targeted to enlist large numbers of black recruits. For these 100 three-digit ZCTAs, the percent­age of those who self-identified as black in any combination in the 2004 cohort (42.94 percent) was almost equal to the percentage of those who self-identified as white in any combination (45.67 percent).

An accurate ratio of proportionality of Hispanics cannot be determined from the recruit data for 2004 and 2005 due to the high percentage of recruits who declined to respond. (See Table 5.) However, when consid­ering only those that did respond, the 2004 recruit-to-population ratio is 1.09 for Hispanics and 0.99 for non-Hispanics. (See Table 6.) For 2005, these ratios were 1.15 and 0.98, respectively. While this suggests that Hispanics are overrepresented among recruits, it does not reflect a gross underrepresenta­tion of non-Hispanics. No evidence suggests that the military is targeting its recruiting efforts to draw principally from Hispanic areas or to enlist primarily Hispanic youth.





Regional

In reexamining the question of whether the troops originate primarily from rural areas, the data for 2004 and 2005 indicate the same pattern seen in the 2003 data. As the rural concentration increases, so does the proportional overrepresenta­tion of recruits when compared to the population ages 18–24. (See Table 7.)



Additionally, the data for 2004 and 2005 confirm the strong military tradition in the South. In each year from 2003 through 2005, approximately 38 percent of the U.S. population resided in Southern states. In 2003, 43.82 percent of military recruits listed South­ern hometowns. Southern representation among recruits remained consistent with 43.49 percent in 2004 and 43.8 percent in 2005. (See Table 8.)



In 2004 and 2005, 29 states were overrepresented among military recruits in comparison to the general population.[12] (See Table 9.) The top five states with the highest proportional enlistment ratios for 2004 and 2005 are Montana (1.69, 1.57); Texas (1.34, 1.46); Wyoming (1.44, 1.41); Alaska (1.47, 1.40); and Oklahoma (1.31, 1.37). As mentioned in the previous report, one might expect states directly affected by the 9/11 terrorist attacks to respond with increased enlistment proportions. However, Virginia and New York continued to decrease in proportional representation from during 2004 and 2005.

The states with the most positive upward move­ment in their enlistment ratios from 2003 to 2005 were New Hampshire (+0.13), Texas (+0.12), and Maine (+0.10). The greatest decreases in enlistment ratios correspond to the District of Columbia (–0.15), Mississippi (–0.14), and Florida (–0.14). However, in both 2004 and 2005, Florida remained overrep­resented among recruits, with a 2005 recruit-to-population ratio of 1.02. From 2003 to 2005, 26 states had little variation (0.05 or less) in their recruit-to-population ratio.

Conclusion

As support for the war in Iraq has declined, criti­cism of the war has translated into criticism of our nation’s troops, at least by way of criticizing the quality of wartime recruits. The November 2005 Heritage Foundation study found that recruits enlisting at the start of the war were of high quality and in many respects comparable to the youth population. This updated report’s examination of three years of wartime recruits shows that recruit quality has not declined.

The estimate for mean household income of recruits increased every year from 2003 through 2005. The poorest areas continue to be underrep­resented, while middle-class areas are overrepre­sented. Although the richest income brackets are underrepresented, the difference between the recruit and population proportions for these brack­ets is less than 0.25 percent. Overall, the distribu­tion for recruit household incomes is very similar to that of the youth population.



The military continues to enforce educational standards in its recruiting process. The high school graduation rate among recruits is higher than it is among the national youth population. While the active-duty enlisted ranks have fewer college grad­uates than the comparable civilian population, DOD annual updates on population representation indicate that many who join the military are taking advantage of educational opportunities while serv­ing and that many others continue their education after completing their enlistment period.

The enlisted ranks are not disproportionately composed of minorities. Whites serve in numbers roughly proportional to their representation in the population. While blacks continue to be overrepre­sented, their representation has decreased during the wartime years and is much closer to being pro­portional in 2005 than it was in 2003. Additionally, recruiters are not targeting black-concentrated areas in an effort to exploit the black population.

Wartime recruits come more from rural areas, particularly from the South. However, many states outside of the South, such as Alaska and Montana, continue to have strong proportional representa­tion. Areas classified as entirely urban are strongly underrepresented compared to areas with increased rural concentrations, all of which were overrepresented.

Overall, the wartime recruits are more similar than dissimilar to their civilian counterparts. The all-volunteer force displays near proportional rep­resentation of income backgrounds. Whites serve in approximate proportion to their population, although representation of minority groups varies. Recruits must meet educational standards, and the military provides resources for furthering educa­tion to those who might not otherwise have the opportunity to attend four-year colleges. Although rural representation is disproportional, the military offers the opportunity to gain new skills and enter industries that are not available in rural areas.

With regard to income, education, race, and regional background, the all-volunteer force is repre­sentative of our nation and meets standards set by Congress and the Department of Defense. In con­trast to the patronizing slanders of antiwar critics, recruit quality is increasing as the war in Iraq contin­ues. Although recent recruiting goals have been dif­ficult to meet, reenlistment is strong and recruit quality remains high. No evidence supports argu­ments for reinstating the draft or altering recruiting policies to achieve more equitable representation.

Tim Kane, Ph.D., is Director of the Center for International Trade and Economics at The Heritage Foundation.

Technical Appendix

This report was prepared by integrating data sets from the Department of Defense and the Census Bureau. The recruitment data were provided by the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Person­nel and Readiness at the request of The Heritage Foundation. Each recruit studied has a ZIP code for home of record, which was matched with Census data for the corresponding ZIP code tabulation area (ZCTA). The data sets and our integration method­ology are further described in this appendix. This study focuses exclusively on the demographics of the volunteers in the enlisted ranks of the military, specifically those accessions who were never previ­ously in the military.

This report updates the previous study[13] with data on all U.S. recruits during 2004 and 2005. Nationwide data from Census 2000 and the Census 2004 American Community Survey were used as a baseline for population comparison. Census 2000 is the most recent publicly available data set that classifies demographics information by ZIP code; therefore, all ZIP code analysis utilizes these data. National and statewide statistics utilize 2004 data from the ACS. In using the Census 2000 data, this report relies on demographics information for the population ages 18–24 whenever possible.

DOD Recruit Data

The DOD recruit data are divided into two sets: October 2003–September 2004 Active Duty Non-Prior Service (NPS) Enlisted Accessions and Octo­ber 2004–September 2005 Active Duty NPS Enlisted Accessions, which are referred to through­out the report as the 2004 and 2005 cohorts, respectively. The report also cites information from a previous Heritage Foundation study that exam­ined October 1998–September 1999 Active Duty NPS Enlisted Accessions and January 2003–Sep­tember 2003 Active Duty NPS Accessions.

In the previous study, only the last three-fourths of the recruits for fiscal year (FY) 2003 were ana­lyzed due to changes in DOD recording aimed to meet new demographics guidelines set by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). A com­plete data set for all of the FY 2003 recruits was obtained for this report.

The 2003 data cover 176,410 recruits, the 2004 data cover 175,977 recruits, and the 2005 data cover 149,462 recruits. Each individual recruit record in the data includes hometown ZIP code, race/ethnicity code, and educational code. The data include accessions for the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force. None of these data sets includes data for the Reserve or National Guard components.

Race Data. Census categories allow for any com­bination of six races (American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander, black or African–American, White, or Other. The recruit data after the first quarter of FY 2003 reflect this same structure with the exception of not including a category for Other. Additionally, some recruits did not complete the questions regarding race and are therefore categorized as Declined to Respond. Both the Census data and recruit data use a Hispanic indicator identified sep­arately from race, to which some recruits also did not respond.

Invalid Recruit ZIP Codes. For some recruits, the home-of-record ZIP code either is invalid (according to the U.S. Postal Service) or corre­sponds to an area that is not included in the Cen­sus. For example, recognition by the Postal Service but exclusion from the Census could indicate a mil­itary ZIP code or a U.S. territory. Puerto Rico is included in both the Census and the recruit data and was included in all of the analysis done for this paper.

Individual records that could not be sorted by valid ZIP code were excluded from our analysis using ZIP codes. Five-digit ZIP codes/ZCTAs were used for income and regional analysis. Some of the analysis of race used three-digit ZCTAs (corre­sponding to the first three digits of a ZIP code/ ZCTA) to assess racial concentration. The Census Bureau only publishes race data using three-digit ZCTAs. Thus, no recruits were excluded from the analysis of recruits belonging to areas of specific racial concentrations. There are 33,178 five-digit ZCTAs and 887 three-digit ZCTAs.[14]

Census Data

Data were taken from the United States Census 2000, Summary File 1 and Summary File 3,[15] and the United States Census 2004 ACS.[16] The data from Summary File 1 are collected for the whole population, and Summary File 3 and the 2004 ACS contain estimates from sample data. Regional anal­ysis based on state populations utilized the data set for 2005 Population Estimates, which included estimates for 2004, in Table GCT-T1-R.[17]

Income analysis for all recruit years used data from Census 2000 Summary File 3, Table P53 (Median Household Income). More recent data by ZIP code/ZCTA are not publicly available.

Educational analysis for the 2004–2005 recruit cohorts used data for the population ages 18–24 from ACS Table S1501 (Educational Attainment) to assess proportionality on a national level, not by ZIP code. The previous report’s analysis (1999 and 2003 recruit cohorts) relied on Summary File 3, Table PCT25 (Sex by Age by Educational Attain­ment for the Population 18 Years and Over), and used the age breakdown in this table to focus on the population ages 18–24.

Race analysis for the 2004–2005 recruit cohorts used data from ACS Table B02001 (Race) to assess proportionality on a national level, not by ZIP code. The previous report’s analysis (1999 and 2003 recruit cohorts) used Summary File 1, Table P5 (Race for the Population 18 Years and Over), which includes information from the entire population. Data from Table P5 were also used to assess racial concentration by three-digit ZCTA.

Regional analysis used data from Summary File 1, Table P2 (Urban and Rural), to determine the rural concentration of a five-digit ZCTA. This table includes information gathered from the entire population.

The population count for ages 18–24 that was used for ZCTA-based analysis was taken from Sum­mary File 3, Table PCT25. This represents esti­mates from sample data, and “population ages 18– 24” refers to this estimate of 27,498,361 for Census 2000. The more recent sample data for education in 2004 ACS give a sample-based estimate of 26,233,020 for the population ages 18–24. Sum­mary File 1, which is representative of the whole population for Census 2000, reports the total pop­ulation 18 years and over as 211,844,603. The 2004 ACS race reports a sample-based population estimate of 216,036,244.

Summary level 850 (three-digit ZCTA) was used in the analysis of race by concentration because race was not recorded on the five-digit ZCTA level for Census 2000. Summary level 860 (five-digit ZCTA) was used in income and regional analysis.

Income Analysis

Individual recruit income data are not available. In computing the average household income for recruits, each recruit was assigned the median household income for his or her ZCTA.

The Census classifies some ZCTAs as only three-digit ZCTAs followed by either XX (large undevel­oped areas or sparsely settled areas) or HH (island and water features). The Census reports some of these as having population and median income. Of these ZCTAs, 932 had no median income and no population ages 18–24 and were excluded from the quintile analysis.

After excluding recruits who listed hometown ZIP codes that did not correspond to Census ZCTAs or that corresponded to ZCTAs with median household incomes of $0, the analysis included 173,304 recruits from 2003, 172,511 recruits from 2004, and 146,293 recruits from 2005.

Educational Analysis

Recruits were compared to a sample-based esti­mate of the population ages 18–24 taken from the 2004 ACS Table S1501.



Race Analysis

For the purpose of national proportional analy­sis, recruits were compared to the national popula­tion estimates in the 2004 ACS Table B02001 (total population estimate of 285,691,501). Analysis of recruit origins from racially concentrated ZCTAs utilized three-digit ZCTA data from Census Sum­mary File 1, Table P5, for the population over the age of 18 (total population of 211,844,603).

ZCTAs with the Highest Concentration of Blacks. The concentration formula included any person who included black as a race in combina­tion. The following ZCTAs have the highest con­centrations of blacks according to Census 2000 Summary File 1, Table P5 (concentrations range from 24.10 percent to 68.63 percent): 071, 072, 073, 075, 081, 084, 086, 104, 112, 114, 116, 191, 200, 203, 207, 209, 212, 232, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 271, 274, 277, 278, 279, 282, 283, 290, 291, 292, 294, 295, 298, 299, 300, 302, 303, 304, 308, 309, 310, 312, 313, 314, 316, 317, 318, 319, 322, 323, 352, 354, 358, 360, 361, 364, 366, 367, 368, 369, 372, 374, 381, 386, 387, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 396, 397, 441, 464, 482, 485, 606, 631, 641, 661, 701, 705, 707, 708, 710, 711, 712, 713, 716, 717, 722, 723, 777, 903, 946, and 948.

ZCTAs with the Highest Concentration of Whites. The concentration formula included white as a race in any combination. The following ZCTAs have the highest concentration of whites according to Census 2000 Summary File 1, Table P5 (concentrations range from 97.7 percent to 100.0 percent): 032, 034, 035, 036, 038, 039, 040, 042, 043, 044, 045, 047, 048, 049, 050, 051, 052, 053, 056, 057, 058, 059, 133, 156, 157, 158, 160, 162, 163, 169, 173, 182, 186, 188, 195, 242, 252, 255, 261, 262, 263, 264, 266, 267, 268, 407, 411, 412, 412, 415, 416, 417, 418, 425, 426, 438, 451, 513, 514, 515, 516, 520, 521, 523, 525, 538, 540, 542, 547, 564, 574, 580, 584, 586, 593, 646, 647, 650, 656, 657, 669, 677, 683, 684, 690, 725, 726, 821, 828, and 831.

Regional Analysis

This portion of the analysis excluded recruits who listed home-of-record ZIP codes that are non-Census ZCTAs or ZCTAs with no total population. The analysis considers 173,321 recruits from 2003, 172,533 recruits from 2004, and 146,305 recruits from 2005.

The total population in urban/rural areas of each ZCTA was taken from Census Summary File 1, Table P2. This was used only to compute the rural concentration of each ZCTA. When recruits were compared to the proportion of the population in each ZCTA, they were compared to the population ages 18–24, taken from Census Summary File 3, Table PCT25. The information from Census 2000 represents the most recently available population estimates by five-digit ZCTA.

State and Census region/division comparisons were made comparing 2004 and 2005 recruits to the state population estimates for each year found in 2005 Population Estimates Table GCT-T1-R.





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[1] Ann Scott Tyson, “Youths in Rural U.S. Are Drawn to Military: Recruits’ Job Worries Outweigh War Fears,” The Washing­ton Post, November 4, 2005, p. A1, at www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/
11/03/AR2005110302528.html (October 13, 2006); Tom Bowman, “Army Accepting More Recruits with Criminal, Drug Histories,” Los Angeles Times, February 14, 2006, p. A14; and Juan Gonzalez, “Racial Divide Evident in Military,” Daily News (New York), November 8, 2005, p. 16, at www.nydailynews.com/front/story/363523p-309512c.html (October 13, 2006).

[2] Tom Bowman, “Lowered Standards Help Army Meet Recruit Goals,” Baltimore Sun, November 8, 2005, p. A10.

[3] Tim Kane, Ph.D., “Who Bears the Burden? Demographic Characteristics of U.S. Military Recruits Before and After 9/11,” Heritage Foundation Center for Data Analysis Report No. 05–08, November 7, 2005, at www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/upload/95512_1.pdf.

[4] The 2004 population data, obtained from the 2004 ACS, include only categories for less than a high school graduate, high school graduate (including equivalency), some college or associate’s degree, and bachelor’s degree or higher.

[5] U.S. Department of Defense, Office of the Undersecretary of Defense, Personnel and Readiness, Population Representation in the Military Services, Fiscal Year 2004, p. 4-15, Table 4.13, at www.dod.mil/prhome/poprep2004/download/2004report.pdf (August 8, 2006).

[6] U.S. Department of Defense, Office of the Undersecretary of Defense, Personnel and Readiness, Population Representa­tion in the Military Services, Fiscal Years 2000–2002 and 2004, p. 4-15, Table 4.13, at www.dod.mil/prhome/poprep2004/download/download.html (August 8, 2006); Population Representation in the Military Services, Fiscal Year 2003, Table B-30, at www.dod.mil/prhome/poprep2003/appendixb/b_30.html (August 8, 2006); and Population Representation in the Mili­tary Services, Fiscal Year 2005, Table B-34, forthcoming.

[7] U.S. Department of Defense, Population Representation in the Military Services, Fiscal Year 2004,p. 3-11.

[8] Ibid., p. 2-22.

[9] For example, see Bowman, “Lowered Standards Help Army Meet Recruit Goals.”

[10] Ibid., p. 1-3, and U.S. Department of Defense, Population Representation in the Military Services, Fiscal Year 2005, Table B-8.

[11] Race cannot be examined on an individual five-digit ZCTA level because the Census Bureau supplies data only for com­bined regions with the same first three ZCTA digits.

[12] “Population” refers to U.S. Census population estimates for each year for the 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. It excludes Puerto Rico. U.S. Census Bureau, Population Change: July 1, 2002, to July 1, 2003, at www.census.gov/popest/states/files/NST-EST2005-POPCHG2004.csv (October 13, 2006).

[13] Kane, “Who Bears the Burden?”

[14] For more information on ZCTAs, see U.S. Census Bureau, “Zip Code Tabulation Areas (ZCTAs),” April 16, 2001, at www.census.gov/geo/ZCTA/zcta.html (July 6, 2006).

[15] U.S. Census Bureau, United States Census 2000, Summary File 1, at www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/sumfile1.html (July 6, 2006), and Summary File 3, at www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/sumfile3.html (July 6, 2006).


[16] U.S. Census Bureau, 2004 American Community Survey, Table S1501, at www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/sumfile1.html (July 6, 2006); Table B02001, at http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=01000US&-
ds_name=ACS_2004_EST_G00_&-mt_name=ACS_2004_EST_G2000_B02001 (July 6, 2006); and Table B03001, at http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-geo_
id=01000US&-ds_name=ACS_2004_EST_G00_&-_lang=en&-redoLog=false&
-mt_name=ACS_2004_EST_G2000_B03001&-currentselections=ACS_2004_
EST_G2000_B03001&-CONTEXT=dt (August 9, 2006).

[17] U.S. Census Bureau, 2005 Population Estimates, Table GCT-T1-R, at http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/GCTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=01000US&-_
box_head_nbr=GCT-T1-R&-ds_name=PEP_2005_EST&-format=US-9S(July 6, 2006).


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    #6871160 - 05/04/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Very few wealthy children (except perhaps those who would feel family obligations to join) would ever consider the military, nor would their parents let them join, & this is understandable.




I suppose it depends upon what you mean by wealthy... Bill Gates wealthy or Doctor/Lawyer wealthy? The high school that I attended was the "rich kids school", though I was there by geography rather than money. The military was very active at the high school trying to recruit. The entire school, or at least the students in the AP math and science classes, were even given some kind of aptitude test by the military. (Don't ace the test or they pester you to hell and back.) The recruiters were pretty good too; I went through the hassle of getting accepted into the Air Force Academy before I came to my senses (luckily, after the physical, I found out that my eyes would prevent me from being a pilot, or even a 'navigator', so I bailed).

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America had nukes and no other nation did. As long as that was the case, America could have taken over the world (including the Soviets).




If you study post-WWII history, you will find that the above was debated quite hotly between the political and military structures within the US at the time. The military saw a unique opportunity while the politicians were war weary.


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Ok, so America could have prevented the Axis from taking over the world  only to turn around to lay waste to the entire world with its nuclear arsenal. But I like to think that the American people would not have stood for it. I guess times have changed :shrug:


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There is no way the United States was in any position to try and take over the Soviet Union in 1945, much less the world. Even if we had the military reserves to win WWII and then turn around and start conquering...

the soviets had no strategic capabilities. their airforce was no match for the united states and their navy was non-existent. we had the bomb and they did not. they were the only real standing power, and they could have been easily defeated.

...there is no way the people would have supported it. Not for a second.

that is exactly my point. the united states has the ability to create an empire, but not the will. we choose not to.

In a sense they are. We just haven't hade to invade them since 1944 because their government cooperates with ours. If it didn't, it might be a different story.

there are plenty of governments throughout the world that do not cooperate with that of the united states. some of them have been confronted militarily, and defeated. in none of these cases did the united states then annex their territory for the expansion of its "empire". this is not imperialistic behavior. historically, it's extremely unusual - it's anti-imperialistic if it's anything.


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    #6873186 - 05/04/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Why go through the mess & sacrifice of colonialism & imperialism (which is why many on the right oppose the Iraq occupation) when corporations can use the institutions of the IMF & the World Bank, & get their respective governments to prop up puppet regimes who will do the dirty work for them, to accomplish the same theft that not long ago mandated having a very large military presence in the desired region.

now you're talking about the private sector. ignoring that for a moment (despite how fatal it is to your argument), what countries are currently under the control of puppet governments set up by american corporations? how have they installed friendly governments and what level of control do they exert? specifics, please.


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    #6873677 - 05/04/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Am I missing something, or have you decided to cite ANY evidence for your assumptions?



I'm not trying to be a dickhead, but please reference something!!!



Zip code approximation is ONE of the most accurate means of determining income. What stats do you have?


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