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 Jungliyst
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 WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT 
#685756 - 06/18/02 09:21 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am a first time grower waiting to receive my prints. And I was just wondering how everybodys first crop turned out and Advice from anybodys mistakes if there was any. Even if there were no mistakes I would like to know how they turned out. Thanks Peace and Love
Larry
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 Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#685798 - 06/18/02 09:34 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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larry,
the first time my fish grew out a crop they tried the standard cake method with the first pint jar. the second jar to finish was cased with vermiculite and put in a small plastic ziploc tupperware container. needless to say the regular cake never did shit! the cased cake did fine though. my fish live in a very dry region though and this may be the reason that the casing did better although the fruiting conatiner seemed to have good humidity. my other advice is this...follow the directions to the "t" especially about being sterile. after you do a few then experiment with other stuff....good luck!
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: cantankerous]
#685959 - 06/18/02 10:27 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Turned out very weak and only got one flush using amazonians. BRF/VERM cakes. Was basically a waste of time for me.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686013 - 06/18/02 10:49 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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My first, second, AND third try turned out to be mold.. YaaaAaaaA 
This time all is well though, and I'm sure glad I didn't quit.
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 Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686032 - 06/18/02 10:56 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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My first time well - 12 (all) of my jars colonized 100% no contams followed MMGG to the exact. However they fucked up during the fruiting stage. I had about 7-8 cakes. Five of them flushed at least once and about 2-3 flushed twice. I tried some casings with the the remainder of my jars. I fucked up big time on these casings and thats what fucked me. First mistake was slicing my cakes into very very think slices like cutting the cakes 6x!=( So I got fruits off my 1st casing (straight verm) they were sooooooooooo small and thin - I got 1 decent sized fruit and i say decent by this was still very small.
Then I made a 50/50 casing and half of it got contamed so I decided to cut the half out and spray the other half with bleach and h202 - then place it directly into the terranium where my 7 cakes layed this was a mistake, a huge one! The mold existed under the casing and it spread to the cakes contamed them and bam all dead. Sucked but you live and learn. 
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686042 - 06/18/02 11:02 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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read all that you can before you start messing around with crap
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outside, not on other people" - Aldous Huxley
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686170 - 06/18/02 12:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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first all mold
never had mold since i started useing the ramsey seal
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whackedout
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: LCid]
#686220 - 06/18/02 12:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Ramsey seal method seems to work good for me. My first time turned out nothing,2nd time, close to nothing, third time some sucess. Fourth-present like tying my shoes. READ everything, look at old posts, but most of all pick a tek, pf probably and follow it till you succeed. Then move on, you'll build a ton of basic experience that way and have fewer failures. Then go to dung, I LOVE dung grows, they are the easiest for max yeild I have tried. And they will turn out some kickass flushes too, unreal flushes, flushes like these people take pictures of and post in the tek pics.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686265 - 06/18/02 01:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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5 o dired
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: GaNjAShRooM]
#686344 - 06/18/02 01:52 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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my first crop was massive... 13+ grams dried................ words can't describe how massive it was....
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686366 - 06/18/02 02:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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My first attmep grew three shrooms from a small pan that was put in my closet, no lid, no humidity no special treatment except sterile conditions and caseing. I didnt know better than to let it grow flushes.
My second attempt was with a syringe full and brown with spores. I PC'd 10 jars, let them cool. I had punched small nail holes in the tops and taped them shut and let them sit for a day.
I was sooo excited to inoculate and get my setup going sprayed everything down with lysol and gathered all I needed to inoculate the jars. When I plunged the needle into the first one the pressuer inside sucked the plunger down and the jar ate up all my spores. 
Later that jar would grow contams and I swore Id never grow again.
Then I found the shroomery...
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 Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686391 - 06/18/02 02:27 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried 2 jars at first just to see if I could pull it off.....unknown strain from JLF. I ended up with 5 grams dried.....but I'll never forget those first pins coming or the first little guy I pulled off the cakes.....SO proud!
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686440 - 06/18/02 03:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok my first time out i ordered a syringe, i used the PF tek followed it to the T except i couldn't find 1/2 pint wide mouth jars anywhere or 1/2 pint either so in my rush to get started i used
regular pint jars ( not recommended ) these took TWO MONTHS to colonize!! and they kept stalling out. I finally birthed them only 90% colonized ( also not recommended but i had to do something ) and cased them with just vermiculite ( i crumbled the cakes ) it worked great though, i got nice flushes and some big shrooms too. Two of the biggest i made prints with
4 inchers, nice!! Oh while waiting for my jars to colonize i went to work on making my own terranium, it works great and was cheap to make and while i've outgrown it i still use it today. i used perlite for humidity. I also presterilized substrate in the oven. wore latex gloves clean, clean, clean i even wore a dust mask. Good luck!! Remember sterile everything!! 
Edited by staindblue (06/18/02 03:07 PM)
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DrShroomel
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: badjessejames]
#686448 - 06/18/02 03:08 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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First grow 12 out of 12 jars contamed with the BRF/verm style.Second grow i did in magic bags ate my first few crops today only 3 shrooms and i was flying the rest still need time.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686460 - 06/18/02 03:18 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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about 6 grams out of one jar that came from a batch of 8 but the rest got the green
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#686617 - 06/18/02 04:58 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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A whole bunch of fuckin shrooms. Used a hydrapod, lol.
Then the drugs kicked in. I wasn't just visiting the zoo, I was the zoo.
Leaf
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: ]
#686899 - 06/18/02 07:24 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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my first time i grew equadors. i knocked up twelve half pinters following pf, lost about three to the green. i farmed one cake and cased the rest. that was the only time i followed the rules to a t. i have basically been doin my own shit since. oh yeah, ithink i pulled off upwards of 20 grams all in all from my first try.
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DERRAYLD
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: rosewoodpete]
#687059 - 06/18/02 08:51 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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15 pint jars, no contamination .
I boiled for sterilisation.
Used plain brown rice on some and brf/verm on others.
Used pf style for some and cased the rest.
All good fruits lots of them.
Peurto Recans and amasonians.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#687119 - 06/18/02 09:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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your mom's mama's mama's first cake turned out with only two small ecuadors but boy were they potent
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taz_devil
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: SmashedMe]
#687210 - 06/19/02 12:14 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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First crop (6 jars) all got cobweb mould, either because i didnt keep temps up enough or do enough sterilisation.
Second crop using a proper terrarium only did 6 jars, lost 3 to cotam's, 2 others did get some cobweb mould whilst in the jar, but i cut this out and treated with H2O2 and they where fine. They (EQ's) are still flushing now - 1st flush netted about 10 shrooms off 2 reduced in size cakes. 1 other cake refuses to pin. Not much I know but the first shroom u grow makes it worth it and gives you the confidence to do better next time.
Have just innoculated 9 more jars but have now built a incubator that will give me higher temperature than b4.
As everyone says the closer u follow the teks the better results you will get.
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 Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: taz_devil]
#687221 - 06/19/02 12:30 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was given a jar by a friend and it fruited well Upon my first attempt from scratch, I lost one jar to contams and the rest were a success. I cased them and had cubies growing off the casings for atleat a month.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#687295 - 06/19/02 01:54 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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my first attempt was with the myco bag. I was not patient(still the same way) and didn't know about this forum. Disaster in a bag. got more spores and am having success to date.
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#687334 - 06/19/02 02:41 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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My friend's first try was 8 1/2 pint, PF Tek jars. She followed instructions EXACTLY, including the use of a PC, and was anal about cleanliness. She went through several bottles of Lysol spray and Isopropyl alcohol.
All were fruited as cakes and gave her about 13 dried grams of Equadors on first flush. After first flush, cakes were dunked in spring water and then flashed dunked in bleach as a precaution a la Hippie. She is waiting on second flush now.
One mycobag produced about 6.5g dry on it's first flush of B+. She is waiting on second flush now.
Lessons she learned:
1. Spray Lysol all over the room before you do anything related to the mushies, including fanning the terrarium. Clean work surfaces with bleach solution.
2. Wash hands, repeat, repeat. Spray alcohol on hands, wear a face mask. Maybe overkill, but she had no contams on her first attempt. PC is worth it's price.
3. Your cakes may appear to have various hues to them after birthing especially if you are viewing them under artifical light. Blues, light yellows, brown (from verm), etc. They are not neccessarily contams. She has heard that if you take a paper towel (and wet with H2O2) and wipe a color spot and it DOES NOT come off on the towel then it is probably not a contam.
4. Have patience. Her mycobag took 6- 7 weeks from start to first flush and her jars took 4-5 weeks. Resist the urge to screw with them! She had to strap herself down from checking on her babies every two minutes!
GOOD LUCK!
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Tatewari]
#688118 - 06/19/02 10:23 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I am also growing shrooms for the first time(innoculated them 6/15) and having read numerous teks, FAQ's, etc. I had gotten the impression that each 1/2pint jar would yield around 3.5-5grams. However, after reading this thread it appears that that number is closer to 2-3grams. I'm aware that dunking usually leads to a greater turnout but I'm just wondering on average how many grams do you people get per flush. For example, I have 12 1/2pint jars going, so should I expect 20, 40, 60(!) grams?
Thanks a bunch
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Danimal]
#688380 - 06/19/02 01:32 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ummmm, if someone could respond it would be of much help and greatly appreciated. I just went through the Shroomery's entire FAQ as well as grooming www.fanaticus.com without finding a approximation. As well, I went through numerous posts in the Mush Pic area and I saw some growths as much as 6-8g's dry per flush. Hate to be an annoyance, but it'd help me out.
Peace
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#704487 - 06/27/02 12:42 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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My first growing attempt turned blue, green, pink... I think every color expect white.
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Mystical_Craven
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read everything...especially the fine print [Re: Jungliyst]
#704523 - 06/27/02 02:01 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Saddly, my first four attempts were complete failures. The first one was doomed from the start due to a lack of education on my part (I was using tap water, non-organic rye flour, course vermiculite, no air holes in the lid, no steralization, etc) Needless to say I was a bit upset about wasting time/money so I went back through everything I could get my hands on and took notes as I went. When I finally thought I was ready I tried again - another failure. I went back through all my notes and doubled checked everything. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong though, so I decided to make up a whole bunch of jars using different substrate mixes (with different types of organic grains/flours, different brands of water, different water levels, etc) I thought for sure that I'd stumble upon *something* that would work...but alas another failure. After that I was heart-broken. I just couldn't image why so many other people were getting results and I wasn't. I knew I was missing something, I just couldn't put my finger on it. So reluctantly I tried one 'last' time. This time though I purposely screwed up on a bunch on stuff in a vain attempt to force contamination. I thought that if I could at least get something to start growing then I'd know I was on the right track. Unfortunately though nothing happened...absolutely nothing at all. My jars sat around for months without the slightest change, and eventually dried up. I couldn't take it any more, I just couldn't stand watching myself bust my ass and get absolutely nothing in return. So I did the only thing I could do...I gave up. I let go of all hopes I ever had of one day growing my own shrooms and accepted the fact that I'd be haggling with crooked dealers for the rest of my life.
Then one day I got bored as all hell and found myself aimlessly wandering the net. Somehow or another I found my way to a shroom site I hadn't been to before, and just like that I found the answer I had been looking for all along. The problem I was having wasn't due to what I was using as a substrate, or what temperature I had my jars innoculating at, or anything else like that...the problem was with my steralization technique. You see, I didn't have a pressure cooker so I had been using the ol boiling pot of water method. The method itself wasn't the problem though, it was how I was doing it. I had my jars sitting in the bottom of the pot with maybe a half inch or so of water in it - and the temperature all the way up, as high as it would go. I had been boiling the fuck out of my substrate for 45min at a time, effectively cooking the crap out of it. So to remedy this I used another pot of mine that had a steaming dish with it (with water in the bottom and my jars elevated above it) and viola success! The jars colonized as if by magic, the mushrooms grew just like they were supposed to, and I ended up with a pretty descent yield (certainly not the best yeild I've ever had...but definately nothing to scoff at)
The moral of this story: the fine print is where you find the really important answers.
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Re: read everything...especially the fine print [Re: Mystical_Craven]
#704538 - 06/27/02 03:18 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, they say when boiling jars you should put the jars directly on the bottom of the pan. You can use dish towels at the bottom and put the jars on top of the towls so you don't cook your substrate...
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CRAZYFUKR
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#704572 - 06/27/02 04:18 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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pf method 12 jars all twelve made it yield 3.2oz dry ac strain. these are in a giant freezer bag
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: Jungliyst]
#704579 - 06/27/02 04:23 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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one from the second flush
a few from the third
still going
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If it wasn't for this damned insomnia, Id have more pot when i woke up.
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Tatewari]
#704665 - 06/27/02 05:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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JameZTheNewbie
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: dog]
#704690 - 06/27/02 06:13 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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first time i grew i used the shrooms wizard kit.i got two trays full of green mold and cobweb mold. fuckin 80$ straight down the drain. now im trying the myco bags. i got one myco bag about to fruit 2 that i just started and 3 magic bags that might work(the grain fell out when shipping so there was only a little bit) umm so yea dont use kits. kits suck monkey balls. im done! 
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indicaz
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
#704777 - 06/27/02 06:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gee let me put my pic up of myself holding an illegal mushroom.... I would delete your post if I was you
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CRAZYFUKR
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: indicaz]
#704909 - 06/27/02 07:49 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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who says its illegal you don't know which state i'm in where the pic was taken when or of whom. it's of course not me, i'm taking the picture. but i thank you for your concearn.
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indicaz
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: CRAZYFUKR]
#704920 - 06/27/02 07:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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regardless you just incriminated someone...
unless you live in amsterdam or some other legal shrooming place
thats not too smart. Maybe im just paranoid but better safe then sorry
peace
indicaz
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fuzzysquirelnuts
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: indicaz]
#705055 - 06/27/02 08:43 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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you cant verify through a computer that those mushrooms evencontain drug so therefore she didnt incriminate anybody but she at risk forthem (the narcS) to have something to work with
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indicaz
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Re: WANT TO KNOW HOW PEOPLES FIRST CROP TURNED OUT [Re: fuzzysquirelnuts]
#705660 - 06/27/02 01:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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hahahah ok I guess you win. I just wouldnt do it thats all im sayin
peace
indicaz
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