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coon
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glistening inky caps
#6850628 - 04/29/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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the favorite mushroom of Bill Russell.
 coprinus micaceus.
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xmush
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: coon]
#6850948 - 04/29/07 08:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think it's now Coprinellus micaceus. Didn't know Bill Russell was into mycology, what with winning all of those championships and going up against Wilt.
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coon
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: xmush]
#6850971 - 04/29/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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your wit is very witty,yes?coprinellus....please,make a note of it.I am gonna try these I think,Wilt even said they're good.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: coon]
#6851053 - 04/29/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn't drink alcohol with them.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: mjshroomer]
#6851285 - 04/29/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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mjshroomer - Coprinellus micaceus does not contain coprine, that is Coprinopsis atramentaria which should not be consumed with alcohol.
coon - I hear they have pretty good flavour, though lacking in texture. Also, you must remember to pick only the very young specimens which have not begun to deliquesce, and be sure to cook them immediately, or they will begin auto-digestion. Those mushrooms in teh picture are too old.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: CureCat]
#6851447 - 04/29/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coprinellus micaceus is listed in some places as a coprine containing mushroom, but I agree that it probably doesn't contain any.
And then there is this, from a page on Coprinus comatus:
Use it the same day you find it, before it degrades into ink Don’t drink alcohol within hours of eating this mushroom or its similar relative, the alcohol inky cap (Coprinus atramentarius). The combination may sometimes cause temporary but frightening symptoms that vanish after a few hours.
For unknown reasons, this happened after I served the shaggy mane to a girlfriend who never drinks. I had no reaction to the same dish, but she developed a red flush, her gums felt like they were inflamed, she thought she was going to die, and started to shake (with rage toward me).
Within a few hours, most of the symptoms disappeared (except the rage), but there was a long-term delayed reaction: the following Valentine's Day, she ran off with another guy!
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: Within a few hours, most of the symptoms disappeared (except the rage), but there was a long-term delayed reaction: the following Valentine's Day, she ran off with another guy!
Well some people are simply sensitive to certain types of mushrooms. That is why it is advised to only try a small amount of any new edible and see how you react to it, then if it goes okay, try a larger portion.
But running off with another guy?? Jeez, that's pretty harsh. I mean, I expect you ate them with her? Then she must have known that you were also putting yourself at any possible risk. It was unintentional after all.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: mjshroomer]
#6851812 - 04/29/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont drink so I'm in business.well,maybe once a month I drink.
Edited by coon (04/29/07 11:40 PM)
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: coon]
#6852548 - 04/30/07 05:02 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now that you mention Coprinus, I found these popped up amongst woodchips/soil/mulch a few weeks ago, they were one of the first mushrooms i found...
Cap: light brown, 2cm diameter Gills: thin, close, adnexed, same colour as cap Stem: 3cm, long, brittle Spore colour: Black
I checked yesterday they had disappeared and the one i used for the print developed black edges around the cap overnight but it didn't disappear into an inky black mess like the books said it might.
Reckon it might be a Coprinus? maybe Coprinus truncorum? It's been on my NFI list for the past few weeks.
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Those look more like Psathyrella to me.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: xmush]
#6852788 - 04/30/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
xmush said: Those look more like Psathyrella to me.
Thanks i also had psathyrella candolleana as a possibiliy and coprinus atramentarius as another but they're pretty uninteresting, ill just leave 'em as psathyrella/coprinus/LBM
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: CureCat]
#6853526 - 04/30/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cure cat, I was unaware of the coprinus atramentarius name change since I basically do not collect anything but shaggy manes.
Here is a Coprinus I came across recently. Nice image.

An Agaricus arvensis or A. silvaticus?

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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: mjshroomer]
#6853903 - 04/30/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, almost all of the inky caps have undergone name changes since 1994, when the genus Coprinus was split into 4 separate genera, and the family Coprinaceae was disconsidered and previous generas in the family were split into Agaricaceae and Psathyrellaceae.
Species names are also commonly subject to unannounced alterations as well.
Of the images posted above, the top is now in the genus Coprinellus. Agaricus arvensis and A. silvaticus are actually two distinct species. I don't know which your photo represents, as I never really put a lot of effort into trying to sort the Agaricus, as there are so many that look so similar.
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Re: glistening inky caps [Re: CureCat]
#6853920 - 04/30/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am also aware that the Agaricus are two different species. i too cannot tell the two apart, although i have picked Agaricus arvensis in rotted hay stacks and found the A. silvaticus in pasture lands before, both id'ed by Tjakko Stijve of Nestle year ago/
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