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What is the war on drugs all about? Your views.
    #6852857 - 04/30/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

In England pills are cheap as fuck because they come mainly from Holland and Belgium but coke is as expensive as fuck because it comes from Peru etc to Spain, up through Europe and then to England.

Its all about distance of travel and amount of middlemen from the point of source.  If someone setup a huge synthetic coke lab then it would become cheap as fuck here.

Its supply and demand, drugs are a business albeit an illegal one.  Thats why the drug war fails - supply diminishes then price goes up.  Price goes up and more people are tempted to produce/smuggle.  Price drops again due to flood of supply.

Some people are under the impression that the government is just naive and stupid but I don't buy that at all.  You don't get to be the top dog in power by being naive and stupid (you may well get to be a media front puppet though).

The government has obviously realized about supply and demand for they are not stupid.  It makes me question the purpose of the war - is it a ruse because the gov themselves are actually the peak of the market (see CIA involvement in heroin trade), it would certainly be a good way to maintain and feed the black budget!

People say 'think of the taxes if it was illegal' but think of the taxes when it is illegal, if they did have a hand in it and the fact the $ can be used without public awareness.

Is there a sniper on the roof outside now I've said this lol :tinfoil:

Or is it just maintenance of power.  The LSD movement scared the governments, suddenly a huge civilian wave of people saying 'no' to war and promoting love, peace and rebellion!  Not good for people wanting to maintain power!

After this they had to demonise all drugs and now to maintain power it is required to stay with that opinion.

Maybe its both of these concepts wrapped into one.

Any further thoughts? or just wanting to call me a paranoid conspiracy nut?

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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: Ego Death]
    #6852864 - 04/30/07 08:18 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i call you...

full of common sense

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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: memes]
    #6852867 - 04/30/07 08:19 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

What is the war on drugs all about?


money.


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: sui]
    #6852878 - 04/30/07 08:21 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

suimush said:
What is the war on drugs all about?


Wasting money.



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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: memes]
    #6852889 - 04/30/07 08:26 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

If there is a war on drugs... that means we are winning!


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: danlennon3]
    #6852956 - 04/30/07 08:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've always thought that even when there WASN'T direct involvement like the CIA, the government is still just in this for the money. First the media get the taxpayers all riled up with tales like "this kid fell down the stairs after doing salvia" or whatever, and say how the police need more money to enforce drug law. Or they create whole new beauracracies like the DEA. Then the little sheeple are only too happy to pay their taxes so that the government can protect them from themselves. The DEA would never stand to see drugs legalized, because that would mean that they would all be out of a job! Plus you have the laws that allow the police to auction all the material goods of a drug dealer that they bust if they can show the goods were bought with drug money. More direct income right to them! But they don't want to fight the drug war too hard, because they want to make sure that they never win. An endless war, a la 1984. War is peace. Slavery is freedom. Ignorance is strength. Now go watch your telescreen.

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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: danlennon3]
    #6853004 - 04/30/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I just finished reading "Reefer Madness" It really turned out to be a good book. i think he did a good job a trying to show the hypocrysy in the American War on Drugs.

We have to talk to people. When we  have enough people that will stand up for the right to use these chemicals responsibly, we have to become the model.

Thats the only way to change societys mindset as a whole.

If the whole countrys mental image of a "drug user" is a junkie, then we have to show them that we are not all junkies, that we have brain and we know how to use them. That drug use CAN be done responsibly and safley and not soley for recreational experiences.

We have to show that there is more to it than just a high.


I mentioned to my grandma the other day that some of the most beautiful experiences that i have ever had were on psychedelics. SHe didnt even want to hear it. I tried to explain DMT to her, but didnt get past Dimeth..... :rolleyes:

she didnt even believe that the stuff i was saying was FACT, not opinion.

The Government has used SUCESSFULL propaganda camaigns, continues to, and probobly will to come. A large portion of the country still feels this way. We have to get the message out.


Be The example, we have to show society that it can work before anyone will even think about it.

it will take years and years I imagine but slowly i think it will  happen the seeds of change were sown here in the 60's, I think the flower will grow.:hippie:


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: sui]
    #6853060 - 04/30/07 09:17 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Whats the war on drugs about?

many things.

fear, violence, pain, suffering, death, ignorance, tradition, money, safty, control, power, its a bargoning tool when needed for election campains, its racism against multiple peoples.

The list goes on and on, but as i was saying the american public is so hardcorely indocterinated that it as a whole is not ready and would not benefit from a legalization.

but the main reason for the war on drugs is because of the what if. Everybody has been told that drugs are the worst thing in th world so logically the thought of legalizing them brings up thought about the Decay of Society as a whole.


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: sui]
    #6853239 - 04/30/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Money


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: Ego Death]
    #6853274 - 04/30/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

why would the government, who gets millions upon millions of dollars from pharmecutical companies, want it to be legal for citizens to grow/produce their own drugs?

it's all about money. isnt it funny how they hide this fact behind the excuse of morality? theyre all hipocrites, or brainwashed/stupid.


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: Colbadol]
    #6853343 - 04/30/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Aside from the obvious financial incentive (they can sell tons of ineffective legal drugs so long as herbal alternatives are illegal), political parties have to take a moral stance against drugs because, if one party advocates legalisation, the opposing party will take a moral stance against the evils of drug use and get a landslide victory thanks to all the upstanding citizens who realise that God put drugs on Earth precisely so we could make them illegal. You need a country in which people aren't going to be swayed by pathetic, outdated and racist morality, for drugs to be made legal.


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: Ego Death]
    #6853646 - 04/30/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6853682 - 04/30/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

It is about control, power, and money.


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: robbyberto]
    #6853693 - 04/30/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

power is a form of control
money is a tool of control

it is also about fear
fear of losing control


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Re: What is the war on drugs all about? Your views. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6853811 - 04/30/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Will the people ever evolve to be intelligent enough on the majority for change to happen?

I don't think so, because people are like water; water always finds the easiest route. For the masses it is easier to be told what to think and copy the majority than to read, learn and think for oneself

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