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 A Nationwide Poll 
#684575 - 06/17/02 05:08 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm going to ask for the honest and no BS opinions to a very simple yet BROAD question. This is for EVERYONE all over the world to answer. We are looking forward to getting responses here, in the online community, from those not only in the US but also as a resource for those living outside the US. If you wish to respond here, that is fine, you may PM me with your response as well.
Thank you and please answer this simple question if you will.
Without quoting anyone, tell me in your own words:
What is WRONG with/in America today?
thanks,
~K~
Edited by MystrysAbsynth (06/17/02 06:34 PM)
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: ]
#684649 - 06/17/02 05:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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People don't dicipline their kids. This leads to liberals and their liberal thinking. Liberals lead to most of the problems in our society.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: Ellis Dee]
#684715 - 06/17/02 06:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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nationalists
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 Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: ]
#684764 - 06/17/02 06:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Liberal/leftist politics and views.
The destruction of morality.
The attempted destruction of God(s)/religion through science.
Too many laws for useless things.
Too many kiss a tree environmentalists.
Too many liberal tax & spend big government supporters.
Too many babied people that have never been through true hard times.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#684768 - 06/17/02 06:47 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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a combination of apathy and gullibility.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#684970 - 06/17/02 10:45 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Liberals, pure and simple.
2. Non assimilation by immigrants. (See #1)
3. Taxes too high. (See #1)
4. Too much government intervention. (See #1)
5. Lack of serious criminal penalties. (See #1)
6. Entitlement programs. (See #1)
7. Women drivers. (Wish I could tie this to #1 somehow but it would be a stretch)
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#685039 - 06/18/02 01:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Socialism being taught as compasionatism(sp)
2. Political Correctness
3. Liberals and spineless Republicrates
4. Single parent Families
5. Feminized men
6. sticking our noses in others problems
7. Too involved in world problems
8. Giving other countries money
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Edited by Innvertigo (06/18/02 02:20 AM)
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#685068 - 06/18/02 02:03 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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1) The belief that doing wrong is acceptable so long as you can convince enough people that you're "least wrong", coupled with a general contempt and mistrust of anyone who disagrees even mildly...the foundation of all fundamentalist/extremist thinking.
2) The insistence that "survival of the fittest" is an unavoidable factor in all human affairs and that it excuses virtually anything.
3) Too involved in world problems
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#685081 - 06/18/02 02:38 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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We have to many peolple living in the US like "Great_Cthulhu"
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: LOBO]
#685088 - 06/18/02 02:59 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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at least he's coming up with the reasons why...you should come up with some yourself instead of just making general comments
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Innvertigo]
#685166 - 06/18/02 04:25 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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1) Too much power is given to the Government without being held accountable.
2) Blatant exploitation of the environment and natural resources.
3) Corruption of government officials by Big Business
4) The labelling of left / right wing
5) People taking what they are told by the media / government at face value without question.
6) Lack of family values
7) Organized religion
8) 1% of the richest people from 1% of the richest countries, controlling 99.9% of the worlds financial decisions behind closed doors.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Rono]
#685249 - 06/18/02 05:20 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like the organized religion one....not to be confused with pure christianity.
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Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Innvertigo]
#685308 - 06/18/02 05:49 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Organized religion is one of my biggest pet peeves...would someone explain to me why god needs 10% of my paycheck? Or why I need to confess my sins to a priest? Or why one religion is better than another bacause the gods have a different name?
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Rono]
#685316 - 06/18/02 05:53 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree, the worst thing that has ever happened to christianity is organized religion. I have recently denounced my Catholisism and became non-denomination...i'm just a christian, that's all
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America....FUCK YEAH!!!
Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Innvertigo]
#685340 - 06/18/02 06:03 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't in good conscience even call myself christian...I believe there was a Christ, but also a Buddha, a Mohammed...all great spirits from the same source. If you study their teachings you'll find they are all basically the same.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Rono]
#685400 - 06/18/02 06:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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****If you study their teachings you'll find they are all basically the same****
Pretty much
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: Ellis Dee]
#685966 - 06/18/02 10:31 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rail Gun, if you only knew how many times I heard that. I really disagree with the philosophy also. It's like saying you too good to help people, and giving the responsibility to another, or noone...
1. Social Security
2. Grant Money/Non Profits/Church Tax ID
3. Republican and Democratic Corruption
4. Rock is'nt running for Green Party elect Governor for Hawaii
5. Republican Party taking over Jesse Ventura's party, noone knows! That's why he won't run again.
6. Corporate Business
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: nugsarenice]
#686166 - 06/18/02 12:02 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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In reply to:
It's like saying you too good to help people, and giving the responsibility to another, or noone...
Why can't you and others of a like mind grasp this simple point...
If I want to help someone that should be my choice, just as it should be my choice not to help anyone. I work hard for the money I have earned. For the government to come along with scheme after scheme, most thought of by liberals, to take my money from me to give to others, is just plain wrong. Frankly, I couldn't care less if some mom who has had a half dozen kids when she couldn't afford one on her own, lives or dies. I couldn't care less if some ass decided he needed beer and cigs more than health insurance then gets sick and croaks.
I do give money. I give where I choose and help those I choose. It's that the goverment takes my money from me that I have a problem with.
That and people like you who think I should gladly give up an ever increasing chunk of my cash to support scum who don't deserve it.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: nugsarenice]
#686172 - 06/18/02 12:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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And nugs, please, learn how to spell and write a coherant sentence.
Or at least write your posts in something with a spell check and then paste them into your posts.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#686182 - 06/18/02 12:13 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just pointing out how others act, they do have the right to not help in america, and this right is often exercised.
Liberals have never suggested, or implemented any means to take your money, if you are reffering to liberals such as the reform party, libertarian party, or green party. The Reform party, as the only 3'rd party to make into office, never got it's agenda approved by the senate, and house, because of a 2 party opposition to reform. You have never seen what an independant or "liberal" party can achieve. So , you cannot judge, or prejudge, if you wish to seem wise.
My speelling is not your concern, and shroomery doe'snt have spell check, and why would I waste my time to use that , even if they did have that? You now want to converse with some of my international friends? You can, you can explain to them that my charity is wasteful towards them if you want. You can even call them scum, you can tell them they don't deserve it. If that's what makes you feel good, living in a fantasy world, then we can experiment. If you even pm me, I can direct you to a private message board, of international people, run by myself, and I may be able to arrange a meeting, between you and the best of english speakers..
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: nugsarenice]
#686295 - 06/18/02 01:22 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Believe it or not, spelling does matter. When you try to express your ideas, and the spelling and structure of your sentences remind people of an elementary school student, it's hard to take your argument seriously. I'm not speaking of typing errors as we all make those.
In reply to:
Liberals have never suggested, or implemented any means to take your money, if you are referring to liberals such as the reform party, libertarian party, or green party.
Having read many of your posts I think you're well aware that "liberals" generally is intended to refer to the Democrats. Sadly they are first and foremost responsible for the sad state of affairs we live in today. I realize of course that the responsibility can be shared by some so called conservatives as well.
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You can, you can explain to them that my charity is wasteful towards them if you want.
The key words in your sentence there is "my charity". I have no objection to you giving your money to whomever you choose. It's the giving away of my money that I have a problem with.
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You now want to converse with some of my international friends? You can, you can explain to them that my charity is wasteful towards them if you want. You can even call them scum, you can tell them they don't deserve it.
Where did that come from?
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#686560 - 06/18/02 04:25 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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"And nugs, please, learn how to spell and write a coherant sentence."
It's "coherent".
And I second Rono's post.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: hongomon]
#687143 - 06/18/02 10:26 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, it is.
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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#687425 - 06/19/02 03:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks Hongoman...always good to find a like mind...
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#687534 - 06/19/02 05:27 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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1) The increasing reliance on the state to act as a parent/sugar daddy to the voter.
2) The confusion of the concepts of rights and entitlements (handouts).
3) The abandonment of the concept of liberty as the highest political goal and the replacement of it with democracy and security.
4) Government control of education.
5) Massive immigration with reduced emphasis on cultural integration.
6) The Warfare/Welfare State.
7) The activities of the political left (Democrats, Socialists, Communists, Progressives, Greens, etc) to denigrate and destroy the heritage of Western Civilization which is the foundation of our freedoms and most of the scientific and humanitarian progress the world has ever known.
8) The actions of the political class to create divisions of society into politically warring interests groups in order to increase their political power (divide and conquer).
Edited by evolving (06/19/02 05:30 AM)
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Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST [Re: Rono]
#688185 - 06/19/02 11:13 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: vatoloco]
#688199 - 06/19/02 11:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do what I can... 
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 Re: A Nationwide Poll and documentary [Re: Ellis Dee]
#688275 - 06/19/02 12:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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a completely 100% agree with you rail_gun and i think that america is the lazy man's paradise and something for nothing is trying to be instituted in schools. although i hate democrats the most republicans trail in close second they both represent big business controling government and money wins all sort of idea
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 Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#694249 - 06/22/02 12:11 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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just bumping this.....
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 Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: ]
#694373 - 06/22/02 01:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great question.. I think a very simple answer as well. The main thing wrong with America today is our citizens no longer care about anyone but themselves. We have become a very greedy self centered nation. Everyone is worried about themselves only and hell with they're brother.
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Re: A Nationwide Poll [Re: Innvertigo]
#694380 - 06/22/02 01:45 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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but Invert you must agree without faith and belief in something this country would be nothing more than total chaos huh?
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