|
ThePyschonaut52
Stranger


Registered: 04/24/07
Posts: 982
|
if god created everything, who created god?
#6835691 - 04/26/07 06:19 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
This question came to me on one of my mushroom trips a while back. I think i was remembering it from a family guy episode, but still, who created god?
-------------------- "In god we trust..." -I guess we're screwed.
|
MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs



Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 14,794
Loc: red panda village
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6835698 - 04/26/07 06:22 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
The chicken... I know that because at that time the egg was my prisoner
--------------------
   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
|
Mike_yy


Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 7,253
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6835722 - 04/26/07 06:34 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ThePyschonaut52 said: but still, who created god?
I would say we did, but whatever energy is there is probably as evolutionary as we are... What if God didn't create everything but everything created God.
|
ThePyschonaut52
Stranger


Registered: 04/24/07
Posts: 982
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: Mike_yy]
#6835952 - 04/26/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I personally believe that humans created god so we don't feel so alone in the universe. Of course, who knows. Maybe god esists, sinners go to hell, and morman is the right religion lol, but seriously, I think i would go religious just in case...
-------------------- "In god we trust..." -I guess we're screwed.
|
MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs



Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 14,794
Loc: red panda village
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6835986 - 04/26/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I told you, it was that chicken
--------------------
   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
|
ThePyschonaut52
Stranger


Registered: 04/24/07
Posts: 982
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#6836001 - 04/26/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
hmmmmmmm...the chicken, eh? all hail the chicken!
-------------------- "In god we trust..." -I guess we're screwed.
|
AlteredAgain
Visual Alchemist



Registered: 04/27/06
Posts: 11,181
Loc: Solar Circuit
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6836021 - 04/26/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
There was something formless and perfect before the universe was born. It is serene. Empty. Solitary. Unchanging. Infinite. Eternally present. It is the mother of the universe. For the lack of a better name, I call it Tao [God]. It flows through all things, inside and outside, and returns to the origin of all things. The Tao [God] is great. The universe is great. Earth is great. Man is great. These are the four great powers. Man follows the earth. Earth follows the universe. The universe follows the Tao [God]. The Tao [God] follows only itself.
-Lao-Tzu-
--------------------
|
BlueCoyote
Beyond


Registered: 05/07/04
Posts: 6,697
Loc: Between
Last seen: 3 years, 15 days
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6841119 - 04/27/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
If one follows the cause right backwards, one will come to the time barrier. This is where no time exists and where time does make sense in a different matter. In physics, called singularity, in religion alpha and omega. Therefore, behind this barrier, the term 'before' doesn't exist, or at least not in a matter, we would define it. So 'causation' has a different 'look' in those 'states', which permits even into our reality, as it is its foundation and its future
|
Derami
Stranger
Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 47
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: BlueCoyote]
#6844498 - 04/28/07 08:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Chuck Norris.
I say that with confidence.
But seriously from what standpoint are you asking this though? Religious or what?
Think of the Earth in context of the endless universe. Dunno how one supreme being could care so much about one small piece of rock ultimately doomed to destruction.
Just me though, and I apologize if I offend you.
Sorry isnt directed at you Bluecoyote meant for the OP
|
Silversoul
Rhizome


Registered: 01/01/05
Posts: 23,576
Loc: The Barricades
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6844570 - 04/28/07 09:07 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
I think the problem with this question comes from the notion that creation means building something out of nothing. God is infinite, without beginning or end. So how could God create something outside of him/herself? God created not by addition, but by subtraction. Think of it in terms of a light projector. The white light of the projector contains all the colors of the spectrum. But if you put a red screen over it, it will block all the colors other than red. Now, if you are giving a slide show of your summer vacation, those slides contain different pigments captured by your camera, which filter the light from the slide projector to create an image. The image is not created from nothing, but rather by subtracting colors from a light source which contains all colors. So too is the universe filtered from the infinite white light of God. All things contain that white light in an incomplete form.
--------------------
|
Derami
Stranger
Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 47
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: Silversoul]
#6844583 - 04/28/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Religious or not, that is an extremely good way of putting it.
|
mr_kite
The Watcher



Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 2,577
Loc: shambhala
Last seen: 11 years, 6 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#6844733 - 04/28/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
MushroomTrip said: The chicken... I know that because at that time the egg was my prisoner
-------------------- let yourself be silently drawn by the stronger pull of what you really love
|
Bridgeburner
Not spiritual at all.




Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 20,010
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: mr_kite] 1
#6844754 - 04/28/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
man created god, then god got more powerful through constant belief, god brought judgement day, wiped humanity out and got the power to travel back in time before man created god.
--------------------
|
tripstr
somewhere sometime
Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 207
Last seen: 6 years, 5 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6850126 - 04/29/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ThePyschonaut52 said: This question came to me on one of my mushroom trips a while back. I think i was remembering it from a family guy episode, but still, who created god?
ummmm seriously? God has always been there and we are part of his plan. The whole universe was made from nothing in 6 days it didn't evolve from thousands of years on strange energy. Start reading the bible, its full of truth and wisdom. In the last days people will forget how the world was made. Indeed, we are really living in some crazy times and its only going to get crazier. Read the book 23 minutes in Hell. This will scare the hell out of you, you will change your whole attitude just so you can avoid that place. Jesus Christ is Lord and savior and he died on the cross so we can live forever with him. I understand that there are many on here that have a lot of ideas and theories but in the end only the truth will shin. Thanks everyone you are all great.
|
elbisivni
Registered: 10/01/06
Posts: 2,839
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: tripstr]
#6850163 - 04/29/07 04:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
amen brother
-------------------- From dust you are made and to dust you shall return.
|
vigilant_mind
unfazed


Registered: 01/19/07
Posts: 1,717
Loc: boco
Last seen: 14 years, 6 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#6850254 - 04/29/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
ThePyschonaut52 said: This question came to me on one of my mushroom trips a while back. I think i was remembering it from a family guy episode, but still, who created god?
Simple: God was and always is. Saying that there must have been a creator of God, and a creator of the creator of God, and so on and so on, ad infinitum, is not the argument. Nothing cannot come out of nothing-- there must have been some infinite, unmoved presence in existence in order to birth the universe.
|
shakercee
Atheistic Mystic


Registered: 04/08/07
Posts: 606
Loc: Here and there
Last seen: 10 years, 11 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: vigilant_mind]
#6851767 - 04/29/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
It is my belief that no one has ever contacted God. He would be too powerful. I mean if you can't stare at the sun with your naked eye for a long time, is it possible to face God
-------------------- Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking. Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc. Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god." - Indian Armed Forces "Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane
|
MushroomTrip
Dr. Teasy Thighs



Registered: 12/02/05
Posts: 14,794
Loc: red panda village
Last seen: 2 years, 10 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: shakercee]
#6851805 - 04/29/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Dude, lol. Wtf. I know I'm making no sense... but what I said earlier is still true.
--------------------
   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
|
gooddaytoall
Stranger


Registered: 10/02/06
Posts: 9
Loc: Arnhem, Netherlands
Last seen: 16 years, 6 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: shakercee]
#6852554 - 04/30/07 05:06 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
shakercee said: It is my belief that no one has ever contacted God. He would be too powerful. I mean if you can't stare at the sun with your naked eye for a long time, is it possible to face God
That´s ok for you to belief, however if we can use a tool(sunglasses) to look into the sun for a while, why can't we use a "tool" to contact god. Nah that's a terrible comparison .
But think about it; we being part of god and god being a part of us, we could use an introspective to come in contact with "him"
|
shakercee
Atheistic Mystic


Registered: 04/08/07
Posts: 606
Loc: Here and there
Last seen: 10 years, 11 months
|
Re: if god created everything, who created god? [Re: gooddaytoall]
#6852680 - 04/30/07 06:48 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
|
|
i agree it is a sloppy comparison in hindsight. My point is we are still a young race. We have much more to learn, understand. And, I agree with Derami, a supreme being may not be much interested in us.
But, ahh, if we contact an older, wiser alien civilization, it could radically change all our beliefs.
-------------------- Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking. Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc. Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god." - Indian Armed Forces "Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane
|
|