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Offlinejanus20
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FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION
    #6835550 - 04/26/07 03:23 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)
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Perpetual motion is the entire Universe. No surprise here so why write the bloody crap called "the laws of physics". I will try to attach a detailed water turbine design but many engines are shown at www.unifiedtheory.org.uk/...............

And Yes. The centre of every galaxy is a BLACK HOLE DRIVE ENGINE.

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6835563 - 04/26/07 03:43 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Did you know you can ask yourself a question before you go to bed and in your dreams you will LEARN the TRUTH


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: supercollider]
    #6835567 - 04/26/07 03:55 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i think im now stupider reading that bs...

do some reading on quantum mechanics. free energy my balls

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: DiZ]
    #6835592 - 04/26/07 04:40 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

> QUANTUM units of CENTRIFUGAL FORCE

First line I read... sorry, but there is no such thing as "centifugal force". It is a made up word. Yoyos that try to impress people with their scientific vocabulary often mistakenly use "centrifugal force" when they actually meant "centripetal force" (or more likely, the lack of centripetal force). This is basic high school physics... but then, you are claiming to have invented a greater than unity engine, which tells me that you probably didn't pass high school physics, assuming you bothered to actually take the class.

http://regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm

You should submit your work here: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm I'm certain they would appreciate it.

Edit: misreply, meant for the original poster


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Edited by Seuss (04/26/07 04:45 AM)

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: Seuss]
    #6835746 - 04/26/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> QUANTUM units of CENTRIFUGAL FORCE

First line I read... sorry, but there is no such thing as "centifugal force". It is a made up word. Yoyos that try to impress people with their scientific vocabulary often mistakenly use "centrifugal force" when they actually meant "centripetal force" (or more likely, the lack of centripetal force). This is basic high school physics... but then, you are claiming to have invented a greater than unity engine, which tells me that you probably didn't pass high school physics, assuming you bothered to actually take the class.

http://regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/centrif.htm

You should submit your work here: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm I'm certain they would appreciate it.

Edit: misreply, meant for the original poster




You obviously do have some talent. You can sing Jerusalem and type with your head jammed up your arse. Have you been using Centripetal mushrooms ?

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6835776 - 04/26/07 07:06 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

> You obviously do have some talent. You can sing Jerusalem and type with your head jammed up your arse.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

> Have you been using Centripetal mushrooms ?

:rolleyes:  Unfortunately, since I became an admin I have refrained from illegal activities as I do not want to risk harming the site should I get arrested.  So, no, I have not been using mushrooms, centripetal or other.

Again, I have no idea what this has to do with the topic that was posted.

Your reply is known as an ad hominem, which consists of replying to an argument by attacking the person making the argument, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument.  This form of fallacy is often used when one has no substance to their side of the debate, leaving them with no recourse but to admit defeat or attack the character of their opponent.

I encourage your to read the forum and site rules regarding posting.


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6835886 - 04/26/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

janus20, your link has all sorts of errors and misunderstandings, not the least of which are the ones Seuss pointed out.

If you'd like us to take that link seriously and engage you in discussion, you should start by refuting Seuss' valid points, not by flaming him.

Claims of perpetual motion machines have been presented and soundly refuted both here and in countless other venues for hundreds of years, so you have an uphill walk supporting the claims in your link.


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: Seuss]
    #6836093 - 04/26/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

>First line I read... sorry, but there is no such thing as "centifugal force".


xkcd

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6836532 - 04/26/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:owned:


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: OJK]
    #6836709 - 04/26/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

OMFG, I was just going to post that!!

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: DieCommie]
    #6837027 - 04/26/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: OJK]
    #6838252 - 04/26/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I am glad I looked in this rather entertaining thread, it perpetuated my funny bone.....!    :lol:


>^;;^<


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: OJK]
    #6839533 - 04/27/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Odiumjunkie said:
>First line I read... sorry, but there is no such thing as "centifugal force".


xkcd




Your post was so neat, funny and well presented that I was creased up laughing and ejaculated in my knickers twice. I am 69 now and thought a double comer cause and effect, was for me, long gone.

Seuss only read 0.25% of the presented information and was scared witless at that stage. He is a compulsive serial poster though and could not resist another typing opportunity.

I will make him a gift of $22,000 US .... if he will open the turbine document in the opening thread and prove to the forum Shroomers ..........that there is NO CENTRIFUGAL FORCE AND THEREFORE NO WATER FLOW THROUGH THE TURBINE ARMS.

This prize money is open to anyone. Come on all ... Who can beat my HUMONGOUS WHAMMIFICATIONALISING GLOPPITY-GLOPPITY MACHINE?

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6839710 - 04/27/07 02:43 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Just stop you puppet.

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: Seuss]
    #6839793 - 04/27/07 04:11 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

So why is it that everyone says there's no centrifugal force?

I understand the subject, but I think the anti-fugal argument mearly points to the fact that the c.fugal force is a part of the force-pair in an object rotating.

I know people get pissy cuz they think some will pervieve c.fugal as a unique force inherent to rotary movement, when its merely the inertial co-force to acceleration.

Just like the normal force, really. The normal force isn't a special case or anything, its just the reaction to an object acted under by gravity resting on a surface

Not making any argument different then most folks, I don't think, but merely observing that you definatly do experience a force opposite to the acceleration when in circular motion ala Newton's First Law.

Hope that made sense.

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: malcom43]
    #6839858 - 04/27/07 05:16 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Isaac Newton is brain death. He made statements re straight line mass velocity ONLY. THESE FORCE TIMES VELOCITY VECTORS ARE IN PHASE.

This is POWER not ENERGY. ENERGY can only exist in circular spin, where FORCE X VELOCITY VECTORS CAN BE AT 90 degrees OUT OF PHASE.

PLease believe this, it is so true..... CENTRIPETAL IS ONLY DECREASING CENTRIFUGAL. All this can only happen in the phenomena called RESONANCE

This is why my dollar prize is safer than Fort Knox.

Edited by janus20 (04/27/07 05:20 AM)

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: malcom43]
    #6839937 - 04/27/07 06:05 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

There's no such thing as centrfugal force because it isn't called that :wink:

It's called centripetal force. It comes from the Latin words "centrum", meaning center, and "petere" meaning "towards". So a centripetal force is a force acting towards a center = circular motion. Note that the force here is acting to pull you towards the center...you fell the effect of this force as  pulling you away from the center, and thats what we commonly refer to as "cetrifugal" force (which doesn't actually exist).


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: janus20]
    #6839941 - 04/27/07 06:07 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

OK, I looked over your whole document, and I have to say I agree with Suess on this one. Take a highschool physics course and you can see why it's just not possible.


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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: trendal]
    #6840098 - 04/27/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I agree with you,

but due to the 1st Law of Newton, Centrifugal and Centripetal must coexist, right?

But if were merely discussing semantics here, I'll defer to you- cuz I know centripetal is favored.

A physics prof I had was crazy on this point, and I made the same argument as above, that in a force pair in equilibrium, their must be an opposite to any force, and he just got pissed.

It seems to be all semantics.

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Re: FREE ENERGY PERPETUAL MOTION [Re: Diploid]
    #6840105 - 04/27/07 07:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Why is it that EVERYONE who has ever claimed to have a perpetual motion machine just sits around bullshiting about prizes and challenges and all manner of hot air, but they NEVER actually build one and get rich selling energy?

I'll tell you why: it's because TALK is cheap.

Stop all the talking and prove me wrong. Please!


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