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Offlinepscyanescens
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alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high.
    #6679268 - 03/17/07 03:09 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

THC is not an alkaloid, neither are any cannabinoids from what i have read. I was quite suprised to learn this, but it is true. The definition of an alkaloid should solve any disputes about this topic. Just thought this was some interesting info for any one that cares.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6679345 - 03/17/07 04:38 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)



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Initially defined as nitrogen containing, basic substances of natural origin and of limited distribution, alkaloids have a complex structure. Their nitrogen atom is part of a heterocyclic system and they possess a significant pharmacological activity. They are formed biosynthetically from an amino acid.




No nitrogen= not an alkaloid


THC and its relatives are terpenophenolics..


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Nalim]
    #6679437 - 03/17/07 07:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

and I am a THCaholic  :crazy2:


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: cpw1971]
    #6679455 - 03/17/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

then what gets us high when we smoke it?


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6679649 - 03/17/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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THC and its relatives are terpenophenolics..




:rolleyes:


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6679692 - 03/17/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Pikashroom said:
then what gets us high when we smoke it?




I hope you're kidding.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Phonerothyme]
    #6679708 - 03/17/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Phonerothyme said:
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Pikashroom said:
then what gets us high when we smoke it?




I hope you're kidding.




... Wow.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6679746 - 03/17/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Pikashroom said:
then what gets us high when we smoke it?




Nothing. You're imagining things. Weed doesn't make you high, oxygen does.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Mosis]
    #6679753 - 03/17/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Mosis said:
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Pikashroom said:
then what gets us high when we smoke it?




Nothing. You're imagining things. Weed doesn't make you high, oxygen does.




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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Phonerothyme]
    #6679778 - 03/17/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well if he's saying thc doesn't get you high then wtf?


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6679787 - 03/17/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Alkaloids aren't the only thing that get you high :smile:


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6680291 - 03/17/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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well if he's saying thc doesn't get you high then wtf?




I still hope you're kidding.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Mosis]
    #6680331 - 03/17/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Mosis said:
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Pikashroom said:
then what gets us high when we smoke it?




Nothing. You're imagining things. Weed doesn't make you high, oxygen does.




I love O2!


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6680444 - 03/17/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Pikashroom said:
well if he's saying thc doesn't get you high then wtf?




He didn't say THC doesn't get you high, he just said that THC is not an alkaloid.
It's a tetracaniboloid or something.... 'ere  :getstoned:


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #6684723 - 03/18/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Delta-9 tetrahydracannibol is not the only psychoactive cannibinoid in marijuana. There are actually more then 70 different cannabinoids in marijuana, some are psychoactive and some are not. THC is just the main psychoactive compound that most people are concerned with. However some of the other cannibinoids react differently with THC in different proportions. Like CBD and CBN

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CBD is not psychoactive, and appears to moderate the euphoric effects of THC. It may decrease the rate of THC clearance from the body, perhaps by interfering with the metabolism of THC in the liver. Medically, it appears to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea. CBD has a greater affinity for the CB2 receptor than for the CB1 receptor. It is perceived to have more effect on the body.

CBN is the primary product of THC degradation, and there is usually little of it in a fresh plant. CBN content increases as THC degrades in storage, and with exposure to light and air. It is only mildly psychoactive, and is perceived to be sedative or stupefying.




EDIT:> To answer who asked the question about what gets us high, the answer is the cannibinoids, at least some of them. Like i said earlier not all cannibinoids are psychoactive.

I have no idea why Oxygen would do anything at all. However i was told that Nitrogen in the air could possibly have something to do with the effect that THC has on the body when smoking.

As far as i know oxygen doesn't do anything. Try sucking on a bottle of compressed oxygen from your welding torch and see if you get high. Actually don't! I was told that pure 100% Oxygen is horrible for your lungs. Oxygen destroys just about everything through oxidization. Unfortunately i was told this after me and my friends were done taking a few huge hits from my torch. We did not get high at all.

And lets not forget that the air we breath is only 20% Oxygen and about 80% Nitrogen. Less then 0.04% of the air we breath is made up of Carbon dioxide. Plus all alkaloids contain Nitrogen, and pretty much all alkaloids are notorious for being mind altering substances.

However i don't know how to explain oral intake and the lack of nitrogen. You will still get high, but then again maybe the lack of nitrogen could cause the difference in the the oral effects vs. smoking effects.

Maybe from breathing there is already an excess of nitrogen running running in our blood? I don't really know.......


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6684729 - 03/18/07 06:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I believe when he said oxygen gets you high he meant it as a joke. If not, I sure did.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Legend9123]
    #6684860 - 03/18/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Ahhh. Ya after re reading it sounds like a joke.


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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: pscyanescens]
    #6684969 - 03/18/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

There are alkaloids found in marijuana..........

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The relatively complex alkaloid, cannabisativine, constitutes about 0.001% of the leafves and 0.0005% of the roots of Thai plants, but seems to be absent or present only in traces in high CBD type plants; while the simple alkaloid, hordenine, seems to have an opposite pattern of distribution. Unlike the other constituents discussed here, the alkaloids seem to be correlated with the cannibinoids, at least in high THC strains. For a high CBD strain, the conditions giving highest CBD concentrations were different from those giving alkaloids, but these data are very preliminary. It is extremely unlikely that alkaloids are of any significance as far as marijuana psychoactivity is concerned.




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Re: alkaloids in marijuana don't do anything for us as far as getting high. [Re: Legend9123]
    #6833312 - 04/25/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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I believe when he said oxygen gets you high he meant it as a joke. If not, I sure did.




I'm glad at least one person is not dense.


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