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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #6843110 - 04/27/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

hmm, by cooling effect, do you mean like a menthol cooling?

to me, stevia has a novocaine effect - albeit briefly.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: kotik]
    #6843130 - 04/27/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

yeah that would be the best comparison. On the nutrition facts it says its basically sugar alcohol.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: browndustin]
    #6843965 - 04/28/07 01:43 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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But I don't advocate a diet with multiple servings of fruit each day. Everyone argues about how good it is, but no... they're in denial. A serving each day is fine, but no more than that.




What?!
Why not, I do advocate a diet with multiple servings of fruit a day... Especially bananas... Whats so wrong with fruits??
And what am I in denial of?? :confused:


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: eligal]
    #6844379 - 04/28/07 07:26 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Everyone prefers something different. Trust your own instict and intiuition.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: eligal]
    #6845113 - 04/28/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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But I don't advocate a diet with multiple servings of fruit each day. Everyone argues about how good it is, but no... they're in denial. A serving each day is fine, but no more than that.




What?!
Why not, I do advocate a diet with multiple servings of fruit a day... Especially bananas... Whats so wrong with fruits??
And what am I in denial of?? :confused:




lol, well first of all proper context must be established.  if you compare someone who eats multiple servings of fruits everyday with someone who drinks multiple sodas everyday, eats candy, sweets, desserts, etc.  then fruit is mos. def the healthier alternative.

but if you compare fruit to vegetables - well, veggies win hands down. fruit tastes much better, and provides some very essential vitamins and etc. however the sugar content of fruit is still very high.  although i don't think anyone could have a good argument as to why you can't have lots of fruit in your diet.

although i would not recommend it if you live somewhere with mosquitoes...


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: kotik]
    #6845125 - 04/28/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

i think you guys forgott the point that a person will die without sugar.... your cells use sugar to run...... so if you have a limited sugar diet you will find that you will have little energy and enthusiasm much like having to much sugar.... try to find a diet some where in the middle


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6846221 - 04/28/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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i think you guys forgott the point that a person will die without sugar.... your cells use sugar to run...... so if you have a limited sugar diet you will find that you will have little energy and enthusiasm much like having to much sugar.... try to find a diet some where in the middle




that statement is inaccurate. you will not die without sugar in your diet, you will die without glucose in your blood, which comes from plenty other places - like vegetables, carbohydrates and meat.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: kotik]
    #6848141 - 04/29/07 02:55 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

no this statment is not inaccurate...... glucose is just one of the many chemicals in sugar that your body uses.....


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6848499 - 04/29/07 06:25 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

right, but glucose is in plenty other sources, therefore making sugar useless, for everything other than taste.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: kotik]
    #6848621 - 04/29/07 07:40 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

you are missing my point completley but thats ok lol


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6848847 - 04/29/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

ah, but you really don't have a point, and therein lies the problem.

hypoglycemia is when you have low blood sugar, and even then it's not dietary sugar that you need, it's glucose. so you would take glucose tablets. plenty of sugar-free foods we eat are broken down and are converted into glucose. Again, sugar is devoid of any minerals, fibers, vitamins, proteins, amino acids and anything else our bodies find useful.

I would love to see a source that could prove anything different, as it would turn the world of nutrition upside down.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: kotik]
    #6848949 - 04/29/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

you have a great sence of ignorance..... you believe that what you say is law.... in fact glucose can be found in fruits .. you are rite... but the reason is that those fruits contain sugar... from the plants making it for energy... also if you eat liver you can get a good deal of glucose... or maby if you suck blood... and i think your forgetting the other molecule in sugar... ummm what is it called again.. o ya fructose... im afraid to say your body needs that to


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6857747 - 05/01/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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you have a great sence of ignorance..... you believe that what you say is law.... in fact glucose can be found in fruits .. you are rite... but the reason is that those fruits contain sugar... from the plants making it for energy... also if you eat liver you can get a good deal of glucose... or maby if you suck blood... and i think your forgetting the other molecule in sugar... ummm what is it called again.. o ya fructose... im afraid to say your body needs that to




its not necessary to eat sugary things though. Most sugars your body can produce on its own through carbohydrates if im not mistaken.

heres a website that hates sugar (i personally love it ;p) - WITH studies to back the claims or at least be evaluated....


http://www.nancyappleton.com/pages/damages.html


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: ManianFH]
    #6858160 - 05/01/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

that website has absolutley no facts backing its statement most of its claims are garbage.... regardless your body does need some sugar to survive


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6858198 - 05/01/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, your body needs carbohydrates in order to survive. Sugar (sucrose) or fruit sugar (fructose) are both forms of carbohydrates, but have the unfortunate effect of causing "spikes" in blood sugar levels, rather than breaking down more gradually as do more complex carbs.

Humans can survive very well without sucrose and fructose, and it would probably be wise to limit or eliminate these simple sugars from our daily diet.

http://www.biology-online.org/7/8_balanced_diet.htm


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #6858419 - 05/01/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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that website has absolutley no facts backing its statement most of its claims are garbage.... regardless your body does need some sugar to survive




The claims of the website are linked to studies at the very least. The 'facts' you have to search for by finding the study used to make the claim, and evaluating the results of those studies to confirm whether or not the results have significance.

easy for one to say the claims are garbage, but wheres the data to back that claim?

The body naturally produces sugar from other substances that may or may not have sugar in them.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: biggysmall]
    #7599010 - 11/05/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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you have a great sence of ignorance..... you believe that what you say is law.... in fact glucose can be found in fruits .. you are rite... but the reason is that those fruits contain sugar...




Actually, alanine, an amino acid (consituent of protein) converts to glucose, in the brain:

"Converts quickly to usable glucose and prolongs blood sugar stability (helpful for hypoglycemics)."

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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: JunkFood]
    #7599033 - 11/05/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

LOL


Your brain performs gluconeogenesis?????

Wow...


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: JunkFood]
    #7599048 - 11/05/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Carbohydrates are the only macro nutrient that most humans can survive perfectly without. We can produce our own glucose, even without outside help. You never run out of glucose.

The more refined the sugar is, the worse it is for you. But remember, all carbohydrates are essentially a sugar. Even a good old sweet potato can be reduced to a spoonful of sugar. The difference it, and a more refined sugar is the rate of release into the blood stream.

True, moderation is key. But moderation of glucose is a different amount for different people. For me, it's extremely super low. And I'm not unusual in that way.


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Re: How bad is sugar? [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #7599051 - 11/05/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Your brain performs gluconeogenesis????? :laugh:

Wow...




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