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Quick Dunking Question
    #6830214 - 04/25/07 12:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

My first grow... I noticed my cakes were starting to turn a little bit blue in the FC. Since I didn't dunk them at birth, I figured they were dehydrated so I decided to conduct a little experiment. I dunked one of the cakes for 8 hours, and when I took it back out it was waaay more blue than when I put it in. Will it recover stronger than ever *crosses fingers* or did I screw up?

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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: soda5187]
    #6830352 - 04/25/07 12:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You should dunk for 24 hours. It's still dry. They'll bruise from being handled, but don't worry about it. Roll in dry verm after the dunk, then once it's back in the FC, mist well a few times to hydrate the dry verm. That serves as a casing layer over the whole cake.
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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6830383 - 04/25/07 12:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thanks. glad to know I didn't blow it :smile:

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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: soda5187]
    #6831565 - 04/25/07 10:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Does the verm need to be baked on the dunk and roll tek?


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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: BlufNBrent]
    #6831570 - 04/25/07 10:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

No.


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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: unCIVALIZEd]
    #6832209 - 04/25/07 12:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If it's from a brand new bag, no. If the bag has been open and exposed to the normal mold sporeload in your house, then it's always a good idea to bake it on a cookie sheet in the oven for an hour or so before using. I've done it with and without successfully, but baking the dry verm is so easy, it's not a good step to skip.
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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6832229 - 04/25/07 12:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i did not know that. any temp recomended?


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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: unCIVALIZEd]
    #6833064 - 04/25/07 03:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i would guess that 212F would work, but I have heard people say 350F. I would go with 350 if I were you just to make sure... not much can live above boiling except archaebacteria which probably aren't chillin in your house, unless you live in a hot spring or something like that.

Also I could be totally wrong... it's been years since freshman biology.

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Re: Quick Dunking Question [Re: soda5187]
    #6833068 - 04/25/07 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ha ha true that, i miss high school though.


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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: unCIVALIZEd]
    #6833452 - 04/25/07 05:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So, I went to check on my cakes today planning to dunk the rest of them for 24 hours this time, and the cake i dunked last night for 8 hours is still completely blue, very much more so than the rest. Now i'm reluctant to dunk the rest, thinking I may ruin them. Should it still be blue like that? It's out of control amounts of blue.

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6833474 - 04/25/07 05:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the bluing is from handling the cakes its brusing. dunk the rest if they are completly colonized + 5-7 days. i dunked all of mine i was very gentle with them and none of them bruised. good luck


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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: unCIVALIZEd]
    #6833480 - 04/25/07 05:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok takin your word for it. thx for the help... here i go!

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6837344 - 04/26/07 03:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So... two hours til I un-dunk and I can't find vermiculite anywhere. What should I use? One of the teks here says a paper towel works... is that fine?

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6837450 - 04/26/07 03:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yea that stuff was really hard for me to find to. i did find some though. u shud of ordered sum from a supplier off the internet before you started. how did u make your cakes w/o verm?

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: blood4blood]
    #6837456 - 04/26/07 03:39 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I started out using this guide and realized it sucked so i'm kinda wingin it at this point. http://www.shroomery.org/8438/How-to-Grow-Psychedelic-Mushrooms

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6837471 - 04/26/07 03:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

im not gonna read all of that. i dont know what else you could roll it in never heard of doin it with papertowels (maybe someone with more expierence will post) u could always go without

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: blood4blood]
    #6837485 - 04/26/07 03:47 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

oh... yeah i forgot to answer your question. anyways... I didn't mix it with anything... it's not even BRF it's just brown rice. This guide said it worked >.>

Anyways i'm not expecting a good crop just trying to get what I can out of a crappy plan.

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6837494 - 04/26/07 03:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow, and it completly colonized. thats cool

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: blood4blood]
    #6837527 - 04/26/07 03:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yep. you think i could roll them in dry perlite?

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Re: Quick Dunking Question (update) [Re: soda5187]
    #6837553 - 04/26/07 04:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i dont know for sure id think so since it does retain water

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