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need some help
    #6826751 - 04/24/07 09:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Hey everyone i've decided to prepare a substrate which consists of vermiculite brown rice and water , but what i ve seen is it will be a big problem for me to find vermiculite around here (gone out all day looking for vermiculite but noone knows even what it is=( ) , but i have used perlite before with other herbs . and from what i have read they basicly do the same job in the soil
So my question is can i use perlite instead of vermiculite in the cakes or is vermiculite a must ? ( i was planning to use the vermiculite brown rice and water formula )

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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6828008 - 04/24/07 03:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

anyone please i tried to find it everywhere but couldn't find it .


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6828050 - 04/24/07 03:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

not a must for verm. just helps with water content and air in cake. To help mycelium grow faster.

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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6828062 - 04/24/07 03:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I live in a a rather large city, and i only found it at mid- to large scale specified home and garden stores and it only came in really big bags. (asbestos free)

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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6828068 - 04/24/07 03:35 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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whereismymind said:

So my question is can i use perlite instead of vermiculite in the cakes or is vermiculite a must ?




You can't use perlite instead of vermiculite.

If you need help finding Vermiculite locally...
send me a private message with what area you live in...
and I'll be glad to help you find it in your area.


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    #6828111 - 04/24/07 03:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm i live in turkey and i cant buy vermiculite and perlit solo even in big gardening stores , All we have here is premixed soils which includes some perlite and vemriculite in it but also a lot of unwanted stuff =( i want to find vermiculite here in turkey because i dont wanna ship items of volume 10 liters-15 liters from england to turkey =) cost of vermiculite is 2.9$ where the shipping is 25 $ thanks for any help . peace =)


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838099 - 04/26/07 06:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Now that i've found some vermiculite and coco what i wanna ask is can i just cut a spore print in 4 pieces in sterile conditions of course . and put quadrant of spore prints in the rye filled jars is it possible to do this , and will it be more dependable cause i ll be opening the jars less than a sec =) any help will be appreciated . peace


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838115 - 04/26/07 06:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

and one more question what was that thing called like an aquarium with only glove holes and you work within it to avoid air contamination can i get a link for how to building it ? thanks again peace .


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838119 - 04/26/07 06:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah you can scrape the print into your jar. use a glove box. but you could also make several syringes out of your print too.

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Re: need some help [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6838125 - 04/26/07 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

glove box, just a sterile tub with arm holes and gloves attached to work in a sterile invironment.

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Re: need some help [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6838128 - 04/26/07 06:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It would pay off to make syringes since it allows the spores to hydrate. I read somewhere that you should wait a week after making a syringe before using it to maximize efficiency. You might want to get a confirmation of that though.

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Re: need some help [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6838134 - 04/26/07 06:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thanks for the fast answers bro peace . and one last question what do you use for scraping the spore =)


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838145 - 04/26/07 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

a steril, knife,spoon,fork. just put something in Pc and sterilize.

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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838146 - 04/26/07 06:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm blirska so you say getting them in a syringe is better or what ? and why im asking if i could scrape them off to a jar normally is because i think i have mor chance to contaminate it while trying to get em in syringes and innoculating from them am i right am i wrong tell me something =)


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Re: need some help [Re: whereismymind]
    #6838225 - 04/26/07 06:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

as long as the print is steril you could scrape it into a jar but, im sure you have the same success if you put the print into several syringes. just put your jar in a glove box along with the print, assuming you made a viable print. then scrape part apprx. 1/8 of the print which is alot, into a jar. 1 cc per 1/2 pint is plenty so estimate from there.

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Re: need some help [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6838301 - 04/26/07 07:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I havent used a print yet so I can't speak of experience, but that is what I've read on the boards. Hydrated spores have a better chance to germinate. You could of course just scrap some of the print off, but it will take you a lot more spores using that method compared to a syringe. Depending on the size of your print, you could easily make 15+ syringes out of it.

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