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Offlinekeystonelight
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    #6823066 - 04/23/07 12:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. *DELETED* [Re: keystonelight]
    #6823083 - 04/23/07 12:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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    #6823106 - 04/23/07 01:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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    #6823150 - 04/23/07 01:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: Mankey]
    #6823206 - 04/23/07 01:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Wait for full colonization PLUS one week before birthing or spawning. Strain makes no difference. Patience is a virtue in mushroom growing.
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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6823671 - 04/23/07 03:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: keystonelight]
    #6823812 - 04/23/07 03:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You dont need fresh air in an incubator. High Co2 levels are wanted, but you may need to invert the jars during the last 25% colonization to give them the little bit of O2 they are missing.

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: Blirska]
    #6823839 - 04/23/07 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Actually, you DO need fresh air while jars are colonizing. It does no good at all to turn the jars upside down if they're in a CO2 infested plastic box! That's why we provide holes and filters for gas exchange.  There's no gas exchange in the bottom of a sealed up tub. TIT's and other silly ass 'incubators' cause far more problems then they've ever solved.  Colonize jars on an open shelf at normal room temperature(74F-76F) and watch 90% of colonization problems go away.  I've typed this at least 100 times but nobody seems to listen. :shrug:
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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: keystonelight]
    #6823840 - 04/23/07 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I'm having the exact same problem with my cambodian jars. They stalled around 70%. I've been told to flip the jars over, which seems to help a little.

From what I understand, it is possible that my jars have been contaminated (one showed a light greenie-greyish spot and was tossed) . The mycelium won't colonize the contaminated substrate. Even if you can't see any sign of contamination it doesn't mean it isn't. Have you been extra sterile?

Patience is indeed a virtue, in mycology, but when the jars have been colonizing for a month and are still not ready, you definitely need to wonder what went wrong. Flip the jars, make sure you have proper AE and wait a few days. If you get to 30 days after inoculation, I would toss them and start over.

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: Babylon2012]
    #6824676 - 04/23/07 08:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

so is it ok to tape the top covered with tin foil with masking tape?
Also RR i noticed you didn't fill your jars completely with substrate is that to help with the air content. or> ?

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6824694 - 04/23/07 08:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

there grain jars, he didnt fill them probably cause it makes em easier too shake with a little bit of room in the top.


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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: nk pakelika]
    #6828079 - 04/24/07 03:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Most people remove the tape off the tops during colonization as it helps air exchange. At least that's what I did.

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: Babylon2012]
    #6828273 - 04/24/07 04:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, i just did that, thanks.

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Re: Jars are stalling bigtime. [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6828500 - 04/24/07 05:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ive been told when they get to 70%+ and are stalling, flip em over.

actually try pumping them.

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