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OfflineViveka
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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Demotriton]
    #6804329 - 04/18/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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“You are living in the time just before the appearance of the Antichrist. Only those that know, will recognize him as the Antichrist the rest of the world will only see him as just another political figure.”

“Only God's chosen shall hear his voice.”

“When I said God loves us all, only those who are chosen will actually hear it, as they are the only ones actually alive, rest is an illusion.”

“I agree with everyone finding God on their own. I am just trying to let you know where to look to find God.”





Your titles declares you are "Humbled by Grace". But going by the posturing of your "witnessing" in this thread, I must say this is a strange form of Humility.


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #6804391 - 04/18/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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But, he's basically saying "Here, try this". That's pretty much how we all came to know our favorite substances, right?



Only the most ignorant and arrogant among us would come into a public forum and declare, "Eat of this psilocybin mushroom, for if you do not, you will not know truth and you will be damned. This mushroom is the only way to Truth and Love."

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Also, if Christians are wrong (or any religion, for that matter), what harm does it do? Obviously, I know there have been wars and such. I mean right now, him telling you the Message, how does it harm you? If there is no afterlife, and we were wrong, big whoop. We all get burned or sit and rot in the ground right?



True, it does no harm to me or anyone else to hear the "Message". The danger is only to the individual whose number one spiritual goal is to save their own butt. Is that not what Demotitron's Message is about? "Do this thing or you won't get to enjoy the afterlife in Paradise!" It's motivated by self importance and the inability to accept death as a part of the life process. I do not regard very highly a spirituality that exists for the sake of eternal self preservation. I feel that in order to grow as a being, it's necessary to accept the very present possibility of the annihilation of self as you know it.


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Viveka]
    #6807637 - 04/19/07 07:18 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

how do you give your life to god?


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And shake free of you desire

Where theres a will theres always a way
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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6807833 - 04/19/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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CerebralFlower said:
how do you give your life to god?





You shout out loud I believe in the gospel and BAM the miracle happens :lol:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6807865 - 04/19/07 08:43 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

we can all shout together we have overcome
we talkkkkkkk to the father
and the son
when we make it to the promised land


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6807902 - 04/19/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like a plan to me :smile:


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All this time I've missed you
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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Viveka]
    #6807966 - 04/19/07 09:27 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I think, unforunately, that Demonitriton is simply repeating what he was taught. The problem is that what he was taught about the end times is not correct. I have already posted what was wrong with his idea earlier. The other and biggest problem is the preachers that go around and try to scare people into converting by calling Clinton the antichrist, predicting a date for Christ's return, conspiracy theories etc. It adds up to ignorance, deception, scare tactics, and the premise that everyone is stupid enough to fall for conspiracies. To think that a bunch of old free masons is going to rule the world is hilarious.

Saying that, I am not suggesting that that is who Demetriton is. It seems to me that he is just repeating what he has heard.

There is a right way to talk to people about God and salvation, but gospel tracts, TV evangelism, and over excited pastors are not it. I do not remember anyone in the Bible getting scared into heaven.

MM


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6807977 - 04/19/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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CerebralFlower said:
how do you give your life to god?




Read Romans 10:9-13.

MM


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Read his library of books to expand your mind.


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6810523 - 04/19/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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mikemushroom said:
I think, unforunately, that Demonitriton is simply repeating what he was taught. The problem is that what he was taught about the end times is not correct.




Excuse me, but have you read the forum rules and guidelines?

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The goal of a discussion is to understand. In a discussion, both parties must be careful to remain on the "same side of the table." Always let the other side know that maintaining the highest level of respect in your ideas is more important than being "right." The goal is simply to understand the other person's point-of-view. Sometimes we confuse "understand" with "agree with." It is not always necessary to agree on an issue. Agreeing to disagree - letting the other enjoy his/her opinion - can be as satisfying or more satisfying than changing the other person's mind.




I am not over this forum, so it is ultimately up to the discernment of the moderators here, yet keep this quote in mind in the meantime.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: CerebralFlower]
    #6810619 - 04/19/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

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CerebralFlower said:
how do you give your life to god?




When you receive the holy spirit you will know you have given your life to God. Then the spirit will lead you down the path God has for you.

This may help:

Salvation can only occur by the Grace of God. How then do we receive this Grace?
First of all, in order for it to be Grace NOTHING we do can have anything to do with our salvation. Salvation is a gift from God. We are incapable in our own efforts to achieve the perfection necessary to be reunited with God in heaven. That is why he sacrificed his son Jesus for our sins so that we may be declared righteous by Jesus' death for our sins.
We must of course BELIEVE that this really did happen in order for it to be of any benefit to us. It would be unrighteous of God to save someone if they didn't believe and THOUGHT they were being saved by their own works, that would not be grace.
Say we believe in Christ, then why do any good works? In order for it to be truly Grace we must actually desire what is good, and do our best to please God. We WILL fall way short in our efforts to please God through our works alone. This falling short of pleasing God, with the desire to please him, creates sorrow for our sins. Sorrow for our sins leads to repentance which leads to forgiveness for our sins. Another way of putting it, God lets us know he loves us anyways even though we fall short.
The most important thing to know, is Grace is a condition of the heart that is felt, experienced between you and God. It can't really be described, it must be discovered and experienced on your own.

I try my best to describe what God has revealed to me. Sometimes I don't think there are words that can describe it. The bible says it best, read it. I can only pray God will give you the understanding since I cannot on my own.

God Bless


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Demotriton]
    #6814507 - 04/20/07 11:37 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

I am very sorry for any harm I may have caused. I now see that my time here is very short. I have learned what I needed to learn. Peace be with you all.


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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Demotriton]
    #6816010 - 04/21/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: NOW is the time to come to Jesus [Re: Demotriton]
    #6821610 - 04/23/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 9 months ago)

:dontspillme:


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The Prophecy!

Learn To Code


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