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nk pakelika
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how often?
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how often should i fan out my fruiting chamber and mist it with water? also how often should i add water too the perlite on the bottem?
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several times a day. i used to do mine atlest like 6 times. as far as the perlite, i never had too wet it after the initial rinsing when i put it in. the misting was more than enough to keep at or above saturation (i actually had to drain out the excess once during that grow).
I've done alot of reading, but i'm not an expert by anymeans; i only did 3 grows in a fruiting chamber (b4 i moved on ), and only 1 was with perlite, so don't take my word as gospel...
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I've been doing fruiting chambers for about 2 years now and I have always achieved best results with just opening the lid once a day and never misting.
If you're opening the lid several times a day, I think that it affects the humidity. When misting, I either noticed no difference or caused the caps of the mushrooms to become soggy and nasty.
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nk pakelika
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hmm ill keep that in mind. currently im fanning 6 times a day and misting 2. i think ill stop misting once i see more pins. currently there about 7 pins on 6 of the 7 cakes. anyone wanna critque that?
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Mist and fan several times daily. Drill holes in the bottom of the tub to make sure no standing water is in the perlite. In fact, drill holes all over the tub for air exchange between fanning. RR
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nk pakelika
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will that mess with humidity? also what size holes should i drill?
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Here's a scene on terrarium construction from my soon to be released video. Three to five inches of rinsed and well drained perlite will provide humidity in the upper nineties. Drill holes in all six sides. Be sure to put spacers under it so air can circulate all the way around. You want air percolating up from the bottom, because it will be drawn into the low pressure air in the chamber, via the perlite and it will be humidified as it travels through the perlite.
The theory of operation is that air currents travel from high pressure to low, or cold to warm, thus air will be drawn up through the cool, moist perlite and into the slightly warmer air in the terrarium itself, providing constant circulation. RR
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nk pakelika
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well my cakes are in mid fruit now so i dont think im gonna drill holes in it this flush. as for the perlite i have down an inch layer of rinsed and strained perlite with no standing water. then i have another inch layer of dry perlite. is that sufficent enough or should i put down more perlite?
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id go with what RR said.. 3-5 inchs of well rinsed and drained perlite. i started out with only 2 and couldnt get my humidity above 86% added another bag and its steady around 95%.
Why do u have a layer of dry perlite? i dont think that does anything at all for you.
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i thought you were supposed too put one day, isnt that what actualyw hicks up the water and dispurses it into the air? i could be wrong i am new to this, as is this is my first grow.
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I found that 5 inches of perlite is what works for me.
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i dnt know where u read that but im sure its not rite. the moist perlite in a monotub takes care of all your humidity issues.
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MM cud u glance at my last thread and tell me what you think about a FC getting down to 60 degrees at night? thanks
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ok ill moisten down the rest of the perlite by misting it, will that work?
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yea, do u have cakes in there now?
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yes. should i do something different? also the cakes are pinning.
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no just be careful. its best not to mess with your cakes much while they are fruiting but im sure that dry layer of perlite will absorb water from the wet layer and really bring down your humidity level witch will result in very poor fruiting.
do u have a humidity gauge in your fc?
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yeah it only goes up too 80% though. i have 2 of em, there cheep light switch covers. heres a pic of my fc you can see some of the pins and my one small fruit.
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yea dude i would def moisten that perlite (no standing water) add a couple more inches of it its cheap. get a better gauge. u can get a nice analog one at a pet store for 9 dollars. ur gonnna have some small fruits. dunk and roll again after your first flush
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Take your cakes out tonight, drop them into a pot of cold tap water and let them float around in it while you remove ALL the perlite and rinse it under the faucet in a strainer. Dry perlite does nothing for you. When it finishes draining, put it back in the FC, and then remove the floating cakes from the water, rinse them gently under the faucet and put them back in. Doing the above won't hurt the pins as long as you keep the air exchange up for an hour or two until they dry off. RR
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ok thanks, and do you know if i could get one at wal-mart, thats like the only thing close. also i did dunk and role the cakes before fruiting with the exception of the two bottem left. both have the biggest pins which baffels me. i didnt think they were ready for birthing and i checked on em a day later and i seen that pin and another one that fell off inside the jars. guess i was wrong. but i am going too dunk those also after the first flush.
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when you say keep the air exchange up should i fan them several times for the next few hours? and im gonna go put that pot of water on now, also should i re-role them in vermmiculite?
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Dunking won't hurt pins, but rolling them in dry verm will tear them up. Just let them float while you get the perlite damp. RR
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ok thanks for all the help on my few threads rr, and also will this slow down pinning at all?
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Keep fanning every twenty minutes or so until the pins are dry. It won't take long. RR
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dnt no, i dnt shop at walmart but iknow if you hav 4 inches of damp perlite your humidity will be in the 90's and will stay through all of your flushes
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ok i think i got this completly figured out. im gonna put em int he water now ill check back in when there back in the fc. oh also thank you too al the other people who helped me. it is greatly appriceated.
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RR will fruitn\ing in the low 60's during the nite be bad for fruiting?
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ok so i soaked all the perlite in hot water and put the cakes back in the terrarium. im going too fan every 15 minutes for two hours, does that sound good?
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Johnnyboy, no, that will be fine, provided it warms up into the 70's during the day when your lights are on.
nk, why hot water? Cold tap water is fine. Anyway, as long as you drained it well, it will hold your humidity just fine. As soon as there's no water on the pins, they're good to go. I would have taken the time to drill a few holes in the FC, but you can easily leave the lid a bit crooked for constant air exchange between fannings. If you have three to five inches of well drained perlite in the bottom, your humidity will be in the upper nineties.
It also helps to rake your fingers through the perlite to create furrows and fluff it up. This increases the surface area that is exposed to the air, thus it evaporates more moisture. Some growers tend to pack down the perlite to make it nice and flat, and that is counterproductive. RR
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i figured hot water would give them a temp boost for the night cause it gets kinda cold in here at night.ill use cold next time though. also should i ever have too add water too it?
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shudn't have too. it shud keep ur humidity up for six weeks or so enough to get all ur flushes in.
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i think he was talkin about durring the few hours after i just had em in water. also i only have about 2 inches of perlite. i dunno if im going too be able too get more. if not will what i have work? also i checked the bottem of the FC and there is no standing water.
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2 will prob work but if you can get more perlite u shud try. and u dnt have to add anymore water to ur perlite. yea standing water is perfect for harboring contams.
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meh i figured it wouldnt hurt and it only took 10 minutes. man im so excited about this. especialy since when i tried too grow other things it didnt work nearly this well.
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