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Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien?
    #6819206 - 04/22/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I woke up last night due to my yorkshire dog who seemed very upset (which is rare for him), he is likely to whimper if he needs to go out not bark. He even starred next to the couch and was growling the day before. I spend all day with this dog and know when he's upset because he is pretty calm. Anyhow, which waking up last night I saw an object suspended in air not for a sec or two after adjusting my vison but for at least 5-6 seconds. It was not a scary object, but a household large object that was floating but suspended. I have looked up logical explanations although I do have visitations of energies most of my life and now so while pregnant. I am not on medication or anything to alter my perception.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819214 - 04/22/07 01:34 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

can you describe the object in more detail; and was this indoors, or outdoors?


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6819215 - 04/22/07 01:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

It was in the bedroom. Opposite side of the bed. Large laundry basket (not color we own, beige). Wasn't an image in dreamstate nor burned in my mind...so it's odd.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819231 - 04/22/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

no idea, one can form a variety a assumptions and possible theories regarding your experience.

seems like your dog has witnessed the object as well, which IMO gives some weight to the reality of this phenomenon.

all i can say at this point is, appreciate and welcome the mystery. it's a marvelous world out there. :heart: :mushroom2:


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6819234 - 04/22/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Odd it would come in a form of a laundry basket. It was comical in a way, although I wondered if I saw this object because I could relate to the object and not freak out to what it might have really been.... no clue.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819240 - 04/22/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

next time touch it, and if not that then try talking to it. :grin:

could be interesting. :mushroom2:


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6819242 - 04/22/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Wow! LOL I don't know about talking to a basket. My partner work up at the same time and I didn't say a word thinking he would see it. I know he thinks I'm nuts.

Another lady wrote:

The veils are thinning. Your experience was real. Science has proved we live in multi dimensions. Also, vibrational rates are rising which "opens our eyes" to other dimensions. In your altered state of mind upon awakening you got a glimpse of another dimension. Not feeling fear would seem to confirm this.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819262 - 04/22/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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thorpec2 said:
The veils are thinning. Your experience was real. Science has proved we live in multi dimensions. Also, vibrational rates are rising which "opens our eyes" to other dimensions. In your altered state of mind upon awakening you got a glimpse of another dimension. Not feeling fear would seem to confirm this.




i believe the imagination is the door that leads you there. you'll especially see it in young children who are known to have highly active imaginations. i feel that they have a high capability to perceive (and possibly create?) cross-sections within the holographic matrix which bridge one reality with another.

IME when adulthood is reached, this ability becomes heavily suppressed by indoctrination and traditional consensus reality which forms the underlying fabric of modern human society.

to me it seems you have not quite lost this power, and better yet you do not fear it. :smile:

i think that's wonderful. keep exploring. :heart:


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819274 - 04/22/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

glitch in the Matrix :thumbup:

in my childhood home I remember seeing shapes of human figures made by faint red, green and blue dots of light - in a near pitch black room.  sometimes it would move sometimes it would just stand there and I've always felt as if it were the same force.

could have been the overactive imagination of a child after all but many have agreed that there is something strange in that room and I get shivers thinking that it might have been what has led me in this direction in life.  playing with my dreams and placing me into bizarre waking dreams, thoughts of death, eternity and infinite darkness.

though there was a time when I also kept a cup of water beside the bed in case Satan might drop by, and I was also afraid a tree might break the window on the other side of the room and eat me :lol:


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: elbisivni]
    #6819291 - 04/22/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't grow up with imaginations that plagued the mind and sight. I did hear things as a child once in awhile. I didn't see things for a split second until adulthood. This was 5-6 sec and I hadn't encountered that, nor a floating object.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6819297 - 04/22/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

No, I'm not trying to discount your experience.  I believe many of these things that happened to me as a child were very real.  I was just trying to not sound like a psychopath by poking a little fun :smirk:

I think your experience is interesting.  That it was such a clear and steady image is the most interesting part.  It was there when you awoke, but after the 5 or 6 seconds in what manner did it dissipate?  Do you remember?


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: elbisivni]
    #6819540 - 04/22/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

It went away after 5-6 seconds by the 3rd or 4th time I closed my eyes to adjust due to the fact you don't believe what you're seeing. Just really weird.

I have some friends who had strange things happen like you as a child, however they grew out of it I am guessing because they had people tell them over and over, "It's not real."

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6823016 - 04/23/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

any other thoughts out there?

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6823032 - 04/23/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Someone is telling you to do the laundry?  :grin:

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6826270 - 04/24/07 04:09 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Most people think of ghosts as appearing as images of people although there is a history of ghost objects. We don't think of an object as having a soul, so the ideas are slightly conflicting.

I found it interesting you thought it could of been something else, that made itself appear as a laundry basket to you...

Of course, any rationalist will tell you that you had a waking hallucination. I have myself experienced waking hallucinations that have lasted for the duration you describe here.

Not to say either way as I can't possibly pass judgement, i can only suggest posability!

I think, if you experience these phenomena regularly then you should consider have some monertering equiptment installed in your room. You maybe able to get some good evidence to present to the world!

AlteredAgain:
In the context of what you say about the imagination; I think that the logical mind may also block our ability to see and sense things that are beyond our known 'reality maps'.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6826275 - 04/24/07 04:13 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Most people think of ghosts as appearing as images of people although there is a history of ghost objects. We don't think of an object as having a soul, so the ideas are slightly conflicting.

I found it interesting you thought it could of been something else, that made itself appear as a laundry basket to you...

Of course, any rationalist will tell you that you had a waking hallucination. I have myself experienced waking hallucinations that have lasted for the duration you describe here.

Not to say either way as I can't possibly pass judgement, i can only suggest posability!

I think, if you experience these phenomena regularly then you should consider have some monertering equiptment installed in your room. You maybe able to get some good evidence to present to the world!

AlteredAgain:
In the context of what you say about the imagination; I think that the logical mind may also block our ability to see and sense things that are beyond our known 'reality maps'.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6826283 - 04/24/07 04:20 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Most people think of ghosts as appearing as images of people although there is a history of ghost objects. We don't think of an object as having a soul, so the ideas are slightly conflicting.

I found it interesting you thought it could of been something else, that made itself appear as a laundry basket to you...

Of course, any rationalist will tell you that you had a waking hallucination. I have myself experienced waking hallucinations that have lasted for the duration you describe here.

Not to say either way as I can't possibly pass judgement, i can only suggest posability!

I think, if you experience these phenomena regularly then you should consider have some monertering equiptment installed in your room. You maybe able to get some good evidence to present to the world!

AlteredAgain:
In the context of what you say about the imagination; I think that the logical mind may also block our ability to see and sense things that are beyond our known 'reality maps'.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6826741 - 04/24/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

come to think of it I have had a few similar experiences. I brushed them aside though because I'm positive they were hypnopompic hallucinations.

in the one instance an Asian girl was sitting in a chair a few feet from my bed looking at me. there was another time a bunch of old insurance agents wearing golf clothes came walking into my room telling me they were just making sure there were no floods or fires in my apartment.

they both lasted about as long as yours.


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: elbisivni]
    #6832281 - 04/25/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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in the one instance an Asian girl was sitting in a chair a few feet from my bed looking at me.




lucky :tongue:


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6838788 - 04/26/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've never done lsd or shrooms, I just think there's other possibilities than just a hallucination. Maybe that's me.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: thorpec2]
    #6838994 - 04/26/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hypnopompic hallucination..waking dream...you said it yourself.

what else do you think it was? and what does never having used psychedelics have to do with it?


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: elbisivni]
    #6839146 - 04/26/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I was watching a show on one of the educational channels a couple of days ago. It was about UFOs. Peter Jennings hosted it. Anyhow, they had some sleep specialist who said that the type of thing the you experienced is due to a mental blurring of reality and REM sleep; a kind of limbo. Sometimes this is supposedly accompanied by a temporary paralysis. The expert said this is more common than we would think. I don't really know, but this is how they explained possible aliens in the bedroom.

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6839169 - 04/26/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

sounds exactly like hypnopompia..happens to me on a regular basis.


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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6840266 - 04/27/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

In bedrooms but what about mass sightings?

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6034234#6034234

Check out the utube video.

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    #6840834 - 04/27/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6841418 - 04/27/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

shadow people- seen them since I was 18... Not so often anymore but I am well aware of that issue. Creepy

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Re: Hypnopompic hallucination: or possible ghost/entitiy alien? [Re: soulcircus]
    #6842708 - 04/27/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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you can't really trust the reality of anything in a state close to sleep consciousness




I would agree. And you never know, that 5-6 seconds could have been more like a half second.

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