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Re: so? [Re: rastausty]
    #7015613 - 06/06/07 03:21 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Just in case you guys forgot what they look like. :wink:














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Re: so? [Re: shroomydan]
    #7015621 - 06/06/07 03:23 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

whew! been a while hasn't it?starving us you were.:igor:


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Re: so? [Re: coon]
    #7015628 - 06/06/07 03:28 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I am hungry again. Inspring and motivating to get off my ass and look some more.


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Re: so? [Re: coon]
    #7015642 - 06/06/07 03:32 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

There are plenty of Ovoideocystidiata still out. The reason people are not finding them is because they live in places that are very difficult to hunt. The mushrooms in the photos above were growing under a thick canopy of stingy nettles and Jewell weed. The nettles are not bad early in the season because their spines are soft and unable to penetrate through a pair of genes. By early June, however, the nettles have hardened up making it very difficult to walk through them without being stung.

Mosquitoes and ticks are also prevalent in bluefoot habitat, but finding a cluster like the one above makes it all worth it. :smile:


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Re: so? [Re: shroomydan]
    #7015658 - 06/06/07 03:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

been hunting those sort of areas and nothing.sooner or later.dont have as much time as I would like to go.at least I got my big orange buddies.:igor:real nice pics shroomindan.:finger:


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Re: so? [Re: coon]
    #7015703 - 06/06/07 03:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

:discodance:


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Re: so? [Re: shroomydan]
    #7015729 - 06/06/07 04:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

:boobs::cool:


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Still in season [Re: MustardMan]
    #7020190 - 06/07/07 08:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Is anyone still finding any Bluefoots?

I know it is extremely late in their season and I figured today would have been the last possible day to find them with the weekend rains that lasted until yesterday. With the high today over 90 I figured this would probably end any hope of still finding them if there was still any at all.

There are some strong storms predicted for the area tomorrow with temps in the 50-85 range of the next couple of days. Any hope that this may induce one last fruiting?


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Re: Still in season [Re: Smushroom]
    #7020886 - 06/07/07 11:10 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Smushroom said:
Is anyone still finding any Bluefoots?




look above holmes.:igor:


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Re: Still in season [Re: coon]
    #7021238 - 06/08/07 12:38 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

man wtf... i am never gonna find the bluefoot. as bad as i want them it seems i would've by now. i check and i check again what i think is a perfect habitat: along a flowing river on the sides of the surrounding hills and banks under scrub brush and decaying logs and twigs of thousands of hardwoods. and we have a ton of rain recently. still nothing is around. am I looking in the wrong places, do they grow in areas where there are alot of fallen branches and logs and living bush and brush around, in sandy soil along river banks. or am i mistaken, what am i missing or not getting. these things cannot be that rare. sheesh. peace


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Re: Still in season [Re: MichiganPsiloX]
    #7021652 - 06/08/07 02:57 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

It took me seven years of hunting to find these for the first time last year. Bluefoot does not live on every river where you would expect to find him, and not in every place you expect them to be along a river that hosts them.


You need to look often and you need to look in different places.


You are not so much looking for fallen branches as you are for piles of sticks mixed with mud that were deposited by flood waters. Usually only the piles that are covered with thick vegetation will host bluefoot.

To complicate things more, the pile needs to have been there for at least two years. Piles of debris that were deposited in the preceding year have not had a chance to colonize. It is very difficult to find piles like this in areas that frequently flood. Furthermore, the area has to be moist. Moisture level of an area depends on a combination of factors, including: tree cover, vegetation cover, ground water level, and elevation.

Elevation, and I'm talking a few feet sometimes inches here, is very important for three reasons. First lower spots in the ground are closer to ground water, which is often very near the surface along the banks of a river. Secondly, fog can sink into a low spot or it can hang a few inches off the ground. I don't really understand fog yet, because I'm not out there early enough to observe it, but I suspect it is the main source of water for bluefoot this year, considering there has been very little rain. The third reason elevation is crucial to bluefoot habitat concerns flood levels: too low and the patch got washed away last year, too high and there is no deposit of substrate. One of the places I scouted this year looked incredibly promising. This spot is about ten acres of flood plain with a thick upper canopy of sycamore and silver maple and thick bottom canopy of stinging nettles and Jewell weed. To my surprise I did not find many bluefoot there. The whole place was flooded last fall, and the new debris piles were not yet colonized, except for one little spot a few inches higher the rest of the area. There was a nice little cluster on that tiny island. :mushroom2: :smile:

In other spots I find the patches in depressions because that is the only place the debris piles up.

Look for tires and other trash. Flood waters have a tendency to cluster floating debris and deposit it in clumps. I have often found bluefoot growing from under an old tire.




These places are always difficult to get to, and they are almost always completely hidden from roads and houses.


Few folks are cut out to be bluefoot hunters. You must be willing to endure isolation, sweat, ticks, nettles, bugs flying in your eyes (that is the worst), mosquitoes, biting flies, long hikes through thick vegetation, snakes, birds, deer, bees and hornets, and you must be willing to come home empty handed your first dozen or so times out. You will also have a very difficult time finding a place to park your car. Hunting on a bike is better because you can ride up and park your bike in the woods in places that are miles from the nearest place you could park a car.


Damn it's late. Two final things:

Be VERY careful of stepping into holes in the ground. Groundhogs and other digging critters love to dig in the places where bluefoot live because they are always isolated from humans and because the dirt is soft there. I have stepped in these holes twice and thank God I did not break my leg. Also watch out for sharp spikes sticking up out of the ground that are left when beavers chew down saplings and small trees.

In the last few weeks I have found several large patches of Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata growing from a mixture of mud and corn cobs deposited by flood waters in wind breaks between corn fields along a small river.

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Re: Still in season [Re: shroomydan]
    #7023042 - 06/08/07 04:20 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

that is the most beneficial and in depth help i have read yet about bluefoot. thanks a bunch shroomydan. the other day I found what I think was two small bluefoots growing in mulch and woodchips:
the caps were fairly dark brown, not anything close to cinnamon or caramel colored.
the stipes were probably somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 inch thick, but what I thought was very unique about them was the fact that not only were they hollow as bluefoot are supposed to be, but they appeared to be very feeble in and almost seemingly too weak to support the caps.

the caps were somewhat curved inward but not to any extreme and dark brown as I said.
I pulled the caps edges out to get a good look at the gills and they were very close together and very crowded. They were also a lavender/purple color.
I didn't have time to see if they would bruise or not or even take a spore print for that matter. I know caerulipes, unlike ovoideocystidiata, bruises somewhat slowly and these did not in the few minutes i had on my lunch break at work. There were only two and I had nowhere to put them so i threw them out...:(

but I am almost one hundred percent positive they were them.

they looked precisely like this pic from mushroom john's site... http://www.mushroomjohn.com/psilocybecaerulipes/pscaerulipes1.jpg

ahhh. oh well peace out


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Re: Still in season [Re: MichiganPsiloX]
    #7023056 - 06/08/07 04:24 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

:congrats:


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Bluefoot [Re: MustardMan]
    #7023244 - 06/08/07 05:29 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Howdy. Thought I would contribute something here.


Those are from the day before yesterday.





Those are from yesterday.
Look today and no luck.
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Re: Bluefoot [Re: mikonn]
    #7026823 - 06/09/07 05:07 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Nice,


Today, some wavy caps, Psilocybe cyanscens, that think they are bluefoot,



Nice cluster of bluefoot from early May



The stem at the apex is larger than an inch and a quarter,



This is from a last year I think, the picture was taken on July 16th,



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Re: Bluefoot [Re: falcon]
    #7026846 - 06/09/07 05:12 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Nice stuff guys!


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Re: Still in season [Re: shroomydan]
    #7027218 - 06/09/07 07:42 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i went out to a spot that was supposed to be good for bluefoots today and we didnt find any but we broke off a piece of a fallen branch and it was all blue inside, is it possible for the myc in some dead wood to bruise blue? or is this a dumb ass question?


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Re: Still in season [Re: fetalscab]
    #7027812 - 06/09/07 10:56 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i have a question, what actually ends the bluefoot season high temps or something?


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Re: Still in season [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7035506 - 06/11/07 11:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I know that p. ovoideocystidiata and p. caerulipes are very similar mushrooms and are both referred to as "bluefoot". I see these pictures all over this thread of "bluefoot" but whether or not they are caerulipes or ovoideocystidiata I do not know. Can anyone tell me if there are any real macroscopic and obvious differences between the two other than the fact that ovoideocystidiata has a partial veil reminiscent and bruises more qucikly.....

ie... do they have different cap or stem colors, do they have any major difference in size, cap shape, gill color, anything really obvious that can be identified to tell the difference while on the hunt? ...I know that there is a thread already about this but I couldn't really understand the mycological terminology although I am taking a class in it next fall at the university. So I thoguht I would ask the dummy version in this dying thread. LAter and peace out


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Re: Still in season [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #7035549 - 06/11/07 11:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Phish_Dude said:
i have a question, what actually ends the bluefoot season high temps or something?




when is the season over?


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