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I FINALLY found some lsd!
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I'm freakin' excited! I've been looking forever, and finally got my hands on 10 beautiful hits I'm picking up tomorrow. I'll probably drop one or two the day after I get out of school.

Anyhow, quick story and a question. I have a friend who's moderately straight edge because he's in ROTC. Now because he can technically get pee tested randomly (although he never has been yet), he only drinks occasionally, has never smoked pot, and didn't even know what LSD was. I mentioned I found some to some friends and he asked what it was... after our 10 minute conversation he decided he'd like to try it with us because of how short the testing period is for it.
I offered to show him some trip reports so he could know what to expect and he said "Nah, let's just do it" Is that a smart way to go about it? I mean, should he really just follow the spirit guide and see where it takes us, or will he freak?

Thanks!

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: ApJunkie]
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Depends on how strong it is.. I have a hard time freaking out on acid unless I'm dosed off my nut.

I would advise your friend to do some background research, as he will more than likely get ate up by propaganda and insanity..

Make sure you present him with the cold hard facts; because I guarantee you he will hear propaganda off of his friends. I make it my duty; every single day, to dissemble the mounds upon mounds of brainwashing done by the government and stupid ass anti-drug campaigns.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: Cepheus]
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aManEater said:
I make it my duty; every single day, to dissemble the mounds upon mounds of brainwashing done by the government and stupid ass anti-drug campaigns.



As do I. Even to my friends who already know. I still lecture them. Hopefully they'll start doing it to others. If everybody really KNOWS, then how can it remain illegal?


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: MistaUNGA]
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well that's the thing, he doesn't really have any propaganda either... when I mentioned it, he said "what's LSD? Why is it called Acid?"

he literally has no idea what it is except that it can make you have profound insights, some big giggles, and see some pretty colors.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: ApJunkie]
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I am not going to comment on him doing it or not; however, he should know that it CANNOT be tested for in urine. That should not be a concern.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: myndreach]
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He hasnt smoked cannabis, and your considering offering him LSD?

Now i know that sounds like im being a dick, but he has no previous drug experience or tripping experience.
And the fact he wants to try it, after a 10 minute chat.

It seems to me these people dont actually know what they are getting into, and then scare the shit out of themselves, and never try anything ever again.

Its upto you, but if it was me i would probably smoke a joint with him first and see how he takes that.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! *DELETED* [Re: blacksun]
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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: soulcircus]
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well i dont see the problem of that being his first experience. It was alot of peoples first experience.

He just does not need a full dose, maybe .5-1 full blotter.

and explain to him that IT CAN NOT hurt him, and NO MATTER WHAT he WILL come down.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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I think trying LSD w/o having tried pot would be an amazing experience. Pot is great and a strong psychedelic but can be very overwhelming for many. Especially if you aren't ready for the strong high coupled with foggy thoughts.

I would say he would be good taking a single hit.

I think the fact he was so ready to do it isn't really an issue as he is not a usual drug user. Some people just feel compelled to do something. The less he knows the better b/c as a non-user of pot or other psychedelics, the more he knows is just going to confuse him + scare him + put limits on what he thinks LSD is going to be like.

Good luck for both of you! If he decides to partake, post a reply letting us know how he handled it! It would be interesting to see what someone from his perspective would have to say about it.


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Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: SDP]
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I would give him at least 2 hits, I know if I would have taken only 1 hit instead of the 3 strong hits I took my first time I probably would have been somewhat dissapointed, but no I got blasted into outerspace lol, I will NEVER forget my first acid trip, thank god I had enough :wink:. I would also let him know its not something you take just to get fucked up, it gets pretty serious, and just do your best to let him know how crazy it really works in your head and makes your head work. Trip reports arn't really necessary as I find they give newbies preconceived thoughts about tripping, and it usually ends up affecting their trip in some way. Anyways I'm sure if hes a somewhat mature individual he can handle 2 hits and only have that much more fun.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: StreetFreak]
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At lower doses it's really quite rare to freak out on acid. Give him one or two hits and he should be fine. It depends on what type of person he is, really.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: EllisDSox]
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I say one. Its his first time. I wouldnt go over one unless you KNOW they are weak hits.

2 60-80ug blotters is not the same experience as 2 90-120ug blotters.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: EllisDSox]
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Fuck it, split the ten-strip with him!!! Seriously though, I'd suggest that he starts with a hit, and then by the 40 minute point, give him another. I know, it's a pussy way of taking acid, but if it's his first time this way would make it less likely that he'll freak out. I've introduced many friends to LSD, but since I don't really know any "straight edge" types, I can't say that any of them were unfamiliar with drugs. This should be fun for you to watch...especially since the dude is one of those ROTC kinda guys. I've always wanted to see one of them trip while trying to act all proper and military-like.


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And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: Hippie Chemist]
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LOL hed be marchin to the beat of his own Drum!

....or an unknown drum if he trips hard enough!


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Edited by sui (04/22/07 03:30 PM)

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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Wouldn't that be fun to watch? There was one ROTC Nazi in particualr who I would have loved to see on LSD, but that was like, 7 years ago and he's cool now. He just had to do a few years in the air force to get the dick out of his ass. Also, smoking pot kind of helped to make him less of a military robot.


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And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: Hippie Chemist]
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Hippie Chemist said:
Wouldn't that be fun to watch? There was one ROTC Nazi in particualr who I would have loved to see on LSD, but that was like, 7 years ago and he's cool now. He just had to do a few years in the air force to get the dick out of his ass. Also, smoking pot kind of helped to make him less of a military robot.



i hate how people change after the military, they get brainwashed.

A few of my friends that are in the military, when i asked them why him personally joined they all gave me the exact same answer. Its like they got coached to say it when people asked.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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suimush said:
I say one. Its his first time. I wouldnt go over one unless you KNOW they are weak hits.

2 60-80ug blotters is not the same experience as 2 90-120ug blotters.



One hit for a first time only makes sense if its really strong acid IMO, not if its just normal or even weak acid. 1 hit = have fun, 2 hit = have fun on probably a different level. I say go with 2, 1 isn't really enough and 2 would probably be just perfect for a first time. I mean you actually want to give him some of a feel for acid, and IMO 1 hit wont suffice for that, its like a teaser in most cases.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: StreetFreak]
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StreetFreak said:
suimush said:
I say one. Its his first time. I wouldnt go over one unless you KNOW they are weak hits.

2 60-80ug blotters is not the same experience as 2 90-120ug blotters.



One hit for a first time only makes sense if its really strong acid IMO, not if its just normal or even weak acid. 1 hit = have fun, 2 hit = have fun on probably a different level. I say go with 2, 1 isn't really enough and 2 would probably be just perfect for a first time. I mean you actually want to give him some of a feel for acid, and IMO 1 hit wont suffice for that, its like a teaser in most cases.




thats basically what i said. :lol:

i said to take one, unless he knows they are weak, then two would be advisable.

but the fact is that he may not know how potent they are so start with one judge if you need more and dose accordingly..

you can allways redose you cant un dose.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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"one who doesnt know, doesnt doubt."
-confuscious


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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suimush said:
StreetFreak said:
suimush said:
I say one. Its his first time. I wouldnt go over one unless you KNOW they are weak hits.

2 60-80ug blotters is not the same experience as 2 90-120ug blotters.



One hit for a first time only makes sense if its really strong acid IMO, not if its just normal or even weak acid. 1 hit = have fun, 2 hit = have fun on probably a different level. I say go with 2, 1 isn't really enough and 2 would probably be just perfect for a first time. I mean you actually want to give him some of a feel for acid, and IMO 1 hit wont suffice for that, its like a teaser in most cases.




thats basically what i said. :lol:

i said to take one, unless he knows they are weak, then two would be advisable.

but the fact is that he may not know how potent they are so start with one judge if you need more and dose accordingly..

you can allways redose you cant un dose.



Ok so given the chances they are probably of average potency or weaker he should take two either way, and even if they happen to be strong hits 2 shouldn't be something that he can't handle and enjoy with a little support. I could understand if we were talking about 3 hits and 6 hits, yeah taking twice the smaller amount in this case would result in a huge difference, but cmon 1 and 2 hits generally isn't that much acid either way, so to act like somebody can't handle 2 hits for their first time is a little silly =p

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: StreetFreak]
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StreetFreak said:
suimush said:
StreetFreak said:
suimush said:
I say one. Its his first time. I wouldnt go over one unless you KNOW they are weak hits.

2 60-80ug blotters is not the same experience as 2 90-120ug blotters.



One hit for a first time only makes sense if its really strong acid IMO, not if its just normal or even weak acid. 1 hit = have fun, 2 hit = have fun on probably a different level. I say go with 2, 1 isn't really enough and 2 would probably be just perfect for a first time. I mean you actually want to give him some of a feel for acid, and IMO 1 hit wont suffice for that, its like a teaser in most cases.




thats basically what i said. :lol:

i said to take one, unless he knows they are weak, then two would be advisable.

but the fact is that he may not know how potent they are so start with one judge if you need more and dose accordingly..

you can allways redose you cant un dose.



Ok so given the chances they are probably of average potency or weaker he should take two either way, and even if they happen to be strong hits 2 shouldn't be something that he can't handle and enjoy with a little support. I could understand if we were talking about 3 hits and 6 hits, yeah taking twice the smaller amount in this case would result in a huge difference, but cmon 1 and 2 hits generally isn't that much acid either way, so to act like somebody can't handle 2 hits for their first time is a little silly =p




with most people i would agree, but he has no experience with drugs. Dude said hes never even smoked pot. he has no idea what to expect.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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Wow, I went to work and you all went to town on this thread!

I should mention; although I've never tripped acid, I've smoked alot of pot, and tripped shrooms multiple times, so I feel I could give him a somewhat decent feel for what tripping is like. Of course we're also going to have a trip sitter, a driver, and a chef (all played by one hero) and we'll be in a very comfortable location.

I think I might give a hit or two to a friend who's tripping on a different night and ask him to report the potency for us so we have a pretty good feel for it, and then we'll both go for an upper mid-level trip... nothing too killer, but I don't want a light body buzz like the last fake acid I found.

Edited by ApJunkie (04/22/07 07:07 PM)

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: ApJunkie]
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You would be suprised about how many people havent heard about LSD, Mostly the younger generation though.

I think its dumb that he dosent read some cold hard facts about a substance he has never heard of and is about to be putting it into his body.

Hell when I was turning 13 I searched on the computer looking up facts about marijuana before I started smoking it, Also I think he should smoke a fat joint with you and get him real stoned to see If he would even like that. although LSD isnt as foggy and super confusing as your first time being stoned... it gives you a good feel on what certain drugs are like.

As most drugs and alcohol are in two very different class'es.

And if its some chronic he should be "tripping"...anyway thats my input on thing's,and you cant really describe what LSD is like so he dosent know what he is in for if it is some string blotter/liquid.


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yeah they walk through my garden and eat my fruit damn puppets, the boys in blue.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
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(so to act like somebody can't handle 2 hits for their first time is a little silly =p)

It isnt silly at all infact, 2 hits is perfect for a first timer, Infact 2 hits is a normal dose if not too intense for a first timer,I would only ever take one hit of some acid that this one guy I know has.

I mean shit 2 hits of his stuff for a so called "acid head" could really tweak you off your rocker, it really depends if the acid is potent...the stuff my one guy has was made back in the 60's and he has a insane amount of it.

How he acquired it? I dont know, I will tell you this though, he hasent had to work in years because all he dose is go to partys and sell's viles of acid.


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As they walk through my garden and steal my fruit, damn devils in a three piece suit.

yeah they walk through my garden and eat my fruit damn puppets, the boys in blue.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: Muufokfok]
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BoxyBrown said:
"one who doesnt know, doesnt doubt."
-confuscious



True, he can have a totally unadulterated acid trip. But at the same time, a straight edge ROTC guy dropping acid, eh? I think that just screams personal conflict. He will probably be forced to confront his psyche if he's given a good dose. That may not be what he's ready for.

Go and educate him about LSD, and then smoke some weed with him and if thats not too intense go for it. Good luck!


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with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp
it was written on."
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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: Sebastian23]
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Sebastian23 said:
a straight edge ROTC guy dropping acid, eh? I think that just screams personal conflict. He will probably be forced to confront his psyche if he's given a good dose. That may not be what he's ready for.





This is pretty much the only thing I'm really concerned about at this point. he's generally been a pretty straight edge kid as far as I know, but at the same time, he's totally chill with pretty much everything. he's not a total conservative douche, he just wants to fly for the airforce. I'll just try to get him in as good of a mind set as I can and hope for the best.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: ApJunkie]
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I wouldnt let him do it, not without having some type of prior knowledge of psychedelics. Not experience, per say, but basic info on what to expect, ups and downs, lefts and rights, and the many other directions the trip could take. But I only feel that way because he's a 'goodie-goodie'. And I would be doubtful in his ability to handle the possibility of a strong psychedelic experience when this person hasnt even ever got high. The fact that he didnt know what lsd was, is a little scary.

Definetely tell him to grab some info on the subject, best place to look is right here.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: jdirty]
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There's some excellent advise in this thread--

My take: it's awfully unusual for someone as green as this guy to suddenly throw caution to the wind and drop acid--especially in such a willfully ignorant way. ("I don't care what it is or does-- just give it to me!" Would he say the same thing about heroin or coke if it wasn't piss-test detectable?)

I wonder if he is ready to explore a powerful mind-altering substance, or perhaps just trying to impress his friends.


Caution is important here-- if it were me, this guy wouldn't get any stuff with such a blow-off attitude, since I see it as some above do-- people like that are unpredictable when high, since they have no experience whatsoever with not being in another state of mind.

I hope for your sake he doesn't freak on you and give himself--and everyone else--a bad trip.
:goodluck:

**EDIT-- I envy the hell out of you-- I've not been able to find LSD around here EVER!!!

Edited by coAsTal (04/22/07 11:43 PM)

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: jdirty]
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You can guide your friend.
He doesnt need to learn anything in books or the internet as long as the "doser" knows what he is doing.

There is nothing wrong with taking mushrooms, lsd, or even ayahuasca without prior drug experiences.

You need to know your stuff by starting low.

For a person like the one who is in question.
One hit should be a fine start unless its the shitty 30-60 mic lsd hits, which are as common as REAL hits(one hit=one dose).

If you are the guy that is giving such a person a hit or two, dont be the guy that fucks up his perception of psychedelics for what might be the rest of his/her life.

Its pretty simple.

You dont have to have a relationship with these substances before you take them.
Just know a thing or two.
And as a start, you certainly dont need to have smoked pot before any given trip.

Give the guy a low dose if you know the lsd in question.
If you dont know the lsd hits you have, you shouldnt be giving it to anybody like that. This is for sure.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/22/07 11:56 PM)

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: coAsTal]
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coAsTal said:
I hope for your sake he doesn't freak on you and give himself--and everyone else--a bad trip.
:goodluck:



and the possibility of him completely flipping the fuck out and doing something unbelievably crazy. I watched a guy jump off a 6 foot high porch, and belly flop the damn ground while tripping. He never told us what he was really thinking, but imagine seeing that shit, like wtf. I also seen someone climb a tree in fear, and that person was stuck in the tree for 2 hours.

Cops see some crazy shit like that, ROTC wont be happy..

i'd prolly look-out for his best interests right now.. save dat shit for yourself, when i ran into a tenstrip of spongebob blotter, my connect was almost beggin for my leftover personal stash, cause he was out.. he even offered 20 a hit.. there wasnt a chance in hell I was sellin any back, nor sellin' any to anyone period. just too rare and valuable to let go of.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: jdirty]
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lo?

Edited by yageman (04/23/07 12:09 AM)

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: yageman]
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yageman said:
You can guide your friend.
He doesnt need to learn anything in books or the internet as long as the "doser" knows what he is doing.

There is nothing wrong with taking mushrooms, lsd, or even ayahuasca without prior drug experiences.

You need to know your stuff by starting low.

For a person like the one who is in question.
One hit should be a fine start unless its the shitty 30-60 mic lsd hits, which are as common as REAL hits(one hit=one dose).

If you are the guy that is giving such a person a hit or two, dont be the guy that fucks up his perception of psychedelics for what might be the rest of his/her life.

Its pretty simple.

You dont have to have a relationship with these substances before you take them.
Just know a thing or two.
And as a start, you certainly dont need to have smoked pot before any given trip.

Give the guy a low dose if you know the lsd in question.
If you dont know the lsd hits you have, you shouldnt be giving it to anybody like that. This is for sure.



well Ap has never dosed on L before but i think he could guide it proplerly.

AP- you mentioned giving a friend a dose to test it. I suggest you do that but only one. you want to know the rough potency of one blotter


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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Suimush, I'd be down with that, but I've already had the "buy fake acid, get a heavy buzz" experience. Next time I eat it, I want a full trip.
Also, I'm not the kind of person who trips frequently... I haven't tripped since thanksgiving, and it'll probably be that long until I do it again after this one too, I don't really want to use it up by taking one tiny hit....

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: ApJunkie]
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ApJunkie said:
Suimush, I'd be down with that, but I've already had the "buy fake acid, get a heavy buzz" experience. Next time I eat it, I want a full trip.
Also, I'm not the kind of person who trips frequently... I haven't tripped since thanksgiving, and it'll probably be that long until I do it again after this one too, I don't really want to use it up by taking one tiny hit....




i was just sayin that, then you would know how many to dose your military buddy.


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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: sui]
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"But I only feel that way because he's a 'goodie-goodie'. And I would be doubtful in his ability to handle the possibility of a strong psychedelic experience"

What makes him a "goodie-goodie" just because he is in ROTC and wants to fly insane fighter jets? fuck I think thats cool as hell.

what I perceived on your comment is that any one who hasent tried a drug or is a drug user is a "goodie-goodie"? thats totally buying into the govement bull shit dude that drugs are BAD and any one who uses them are aswell, and people who arent are goodie two shoes?

I know what you mean Ive seen my fair share of nerdy dudes that get straight A's in class and wouldent dream of touching a drug but hell they will most likely end up having a high paying job and moving up in the world ( in societies eyes).

any way he did want to try a mind bending substance but how he responded to doing so is what I disagree with.


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As they walk through my garden and steal my fruit, damn devils in a three piece suit.

yeah they walk through my garden and eat my fruit damn puppets, the boys in blue.

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Re: I FINALLY found some lsd! [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
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I forgot the guy had never tried anything before. Give him one hit. If he thinks its weak, give him more next time. Having a weak trip is far better than even a small risk of him totally losing it for 14 hours.


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