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True Newb Has some questions...
    #6813357 - 04/20/07 03:24 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

This is my first post on this site and it concerns my first batch ever... after doing lots of research i foolishly decided to use the easiest method i could find. I'm using quart-jars, and the way they are shaped it is impossible to take the cakes out of the jars, so I have no choice but to leave them where they are (unless i broke the jars i guess.) I have seven jars that look like they're actually doing what they're supposed to.
Two of these jars ( I just noticed today) had excess water so that when I tilted the jar, i could see the water move around in the jar a little bit, so i drained those. These two cakes have some extra-fluffy mycelia growing on them and I was hoping it wasn't cobweb. The water I poured out smelled a little funny, but not rancid as I would have expected an infection to smell like.
Also, one other jar seems to have a tiny amount of a rust-colored stain near the corner... I don't know what this is either. Also, several of them have what looks sort of like roots growing through them and around the sides, and these same root-looking structures growing upward like spikes. Is this good? I put them into the fruiting chamber about 4 days ago and there's no pinning so far, but they've been fully colonized for almost 2 weeks now so I'm a little discouraged.

I'll post pictures once i figure out how to and I find my camera.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813382 - 04/20/07 03:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i forgot to mention that i'm using brown rice as a substrate... probably not the best choice either. I'm really just hoping to get one good mushroom out of these so i can harvest the spores and try again :confused:

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813401 - 04/20/07 03:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

out of all that research you didnt see WIDE MOUTH JARS ONLY mentioned?

uhm,

pftek MMGG all say widemouth yo.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: jeetered]
    #6813407 - 04/20/07 03:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i know i know... the label said widemouth, and not being a mason jar efficionado i believed it. I'm so ashamed....

also the guy who wrote the guide i used never mentioned birthing his cakes so i didn't think it was that important at the time. now i've changed my mind lol.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813417 - 04/20/07 03:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I am a new grower also , and what i can tell you is this:

I also mistakingly bought tapered jars, so i crack the jars, and peeled away the glass (dont break in risk of smashing cake.. ofcourse).. next time get widemouth.

The 'roots' are normal.. so i hear.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813418 - 04/20/07 03:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You did "lots of research" but you still:

used qt. jars
they were not tapered
excessive water

I would do some more research. Give them a while to begin pinning. It will take a week, I'm sure. I hope you dunked and rolled. Good luck, and spend the $30 to get a couple more syringes. If you are having trouble like this, you are not ready to take on new tasks such as spore printing.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: lapflounder]
    #6813422 - 04/20/07 03:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

ok thank you. I was considering breaking them but cracking them sounds safer heh. if anyone else has any input then i'd appreciate it too :smile:

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6813434 - 04/20/07 04:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

mikemushroom said:
You did "lots of research" but you still:

used qt. jars
they were not tapered
excessive water

I would do some more research. Give them a while to begin pinning. It will take a week, I'm sure. I hope you dunked and rolled. Good luck, and spend the $30 to get a couple more syringes. If you are having trouble like this, you are not ready to take on new tasks such as spore printing.

MM




well, like i said... I picked the easiest way I could find. So i knew about all the other, better ways but chose the easiest since I'm growing them at my girlfriend's appartment and I didn't want to take up too much space or have to drive over here several times a day...
also, like I said, now that this method isn't working out so great i'll not take the easy way out again.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813440 - 04/20/07 04:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Next time use this BRF mix:

2 parts verm
1 part BRF
1 part h2o

If its at your girlfriend's, you may want to use damp perlite in a fc with plenty of holes drilled on all 6 sides (FAE). Very easy to do and you won't be yelling at your lady for not fanning.

Good Luck.

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: mikemushroom]
    #6813450 - 04/20/07 04:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

thank you so much. i'm guessing that fc stands for foam cooler and FAE is something air-exchange. anyways i get the idea. thanks for your help and also thanks for not scolding me for being "such a newb"

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: soda5187]
    #6813645 - 04/20/07 05:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

FC = Fruiting Chamber

FAE = Fresh Air Exchange..

theres answers to the acronymn game somewhere on this site.

Edited by lapflounder (04/20/07 05:59 PM)

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Re: True Newb Has some questions... [Re: lapflounder]
    #6813982 - 04/20/07 08:28 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

never use qt jars for brf cakes buddy. those are gonna take forever to fully colonize!


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