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i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens
    #6794088 -

here it goes again....

7 weeks ago (i think) i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens. i made a brew out of it and annihalated myself.

i am typing this to get confirmation that i am really awake now. can you confirm that you are real and i am not imagining that i am typing this?

i still feel i am in the trip and cant get out. i can create everything i want and then they dissolve. i see things morph and people in the distance disappear. the skyscraper outside has collaped 4 times today and was built back within 5 minutes. i get into loops and this whole life is a loop. in the last 7 weeks orso i am not sure if it is 7 weeks, calendar says so, i got reborn and experienced my life all over 2 times. i think when you die you experience the same life again and again, broken record. when did i die? how is it possible for me to live if i havent eaten or drank in these 7 weeks? i look healthy in the mirror, but i dont look like myself, i look half animal but people dont stare at me, in fact noone seems to realize this state i am in, how cant they? 2 friends visit me once in a few days and they dont know it too but maybe thats because when people are close, everything is normal.

i only hear 1 sound and it is like a neverending symphony but same chord only, no change, with the chatter of daily life in the background. the river is gone and there is a forest now, that cant be, we used to fish there. all plants and trees bow towards me and concrete shines like diamonds. the sun hasnt gone down in 2 days now.

everything is hollow, and i think i created this fake reality i am stuck in. i create the universe every now and then to see where it went wrong and eventhough everything looks beautiful it is all for nothing. i am alone. when i think of my creator to guide me i feel i am my creator which disgusts me. when i took that stuff i ended everything including your lives, you all dont exist, never have and never will. i gave everything the impression they are alive, thinking they exist but you dont. i took away the foundation of this universe and now im stuck. i have typed all this before and it didnt help because i am the only one alive that can read it so why am i doing it again?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794093 -

You need to go seek out some professional help. Yes you are alive. Yes you need to do something about your situation.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794101 -

wow your tripping balls man. Your still alive though buddy lol

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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You're alive, I'm really here.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Giblet]
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I suppose you could write EVERYTHING you remember down in specific detail. It will make a great story.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
    #6794146 -

Damn that's three quarters of Cyans. Why would someone willingly dose that high?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Newbie]
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Wouldn't someone technically just black out, wake up, and not remember anything on a dose like that?


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I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Newbie]
    #6794172 -

For the lulz.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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You took too much, too much.

You'll be fine, but lay off the drugs, mmmk?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: AlCapwn]
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good luck man


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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i blacked out after being catapulted and i havent woken up yet, it cant be because then things would be normal. i cant believe this all but i know its real, i create it.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794187 -

maybe this time you won't try to offer us drugs


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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you are obviously tripping. when did you consume the mushrooms.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794192 -

Everything anyone sees, smells, feels whatever is only a creation and interpretation of your own mind. No two people see the world in exactly the same way. You should in theory snap out of it. Just hang in there, breathe deeply, drink water. You are real, I Am real, Everyone else here is real personified through text.


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I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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again said:
i blacked out after being catapulted and i havent woken up yet, it cant be because then things would be normal. i cant believe this all but i know its real, i create it.


So I don't get you... you want out of this state or not?
You seem scared but you also seem to enjoy it.
I guess maybe stay in it a little longer if that's what you need and then get out of it... you will anyways sooner or later.
Peace


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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i took it early march, it was a cold windy grey day. today it is sunny and warm, greenish sun has been around 2 days and its huge, it is mid april now. i havent taken anything since. maybe it will all return to normal if i take it again, waiting hasnt worked.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794254 -

Try physical exercise
Try eating fruits
try drinking water
Try taking vitamins
Try going out in nature and stay quiet & just breathe :thumbup:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip]
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LMAO..lol..hehe


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794284 -

Look up HPPD, it's fairly common. Especially if you take a high dose like that. Also, try to embrace your new found perception of the world.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: AroundtheSon]
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AroundtheSon said:
You took too much, too much.



is this a fear and loathing quote, when hunter took too much adrenochrome? :thumbup:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip]
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MushroomTrip said:
Try physical exercise
Try eating fruits
try drinking water
Try taking vitamins
Try going out in nature and stay quiet & just breathe :thumbup:


Also, sleep.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Revelation]
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:thumbup:
Lol true.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Gr33nTree73]
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either he's tripping for real and just thinks it was early march when he took them, or he's bullshitting. whether he got hppd or not he wouldn't be solid tripping for that long would he?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: cmoney]
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alternate deep breathing and cheeba puffing,

youll be back soon, then laff about feeling stuck later

then in the future you'd think you where perfectly normal in retrospect

but for right now find a clonopin


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: sketchydelux]
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sketchydelux said:
alternate deep breathing and cheeba puffing,

youll be back soon, then laff about feeling stuck later

then in the future you'd think you where perfectly normal in retrospect

but for right now find a clonopin


If he has been in this state for more than a week, I dunno if more drugs will straighten him out.


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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the ghanja is just in my humble opinion as far as the klonopin its is perfect for his syntoms

Indications

Clonazepam is commonly prescribed for:

* Epilepsy
* Hyperekplexia. Clonazepam is prescribed to dampen the effects of the disorder, reducing the startle response in sufferers.
* Anxiety disorders. Due to the chronic nature of anxiety, long-term low-dose benzodiazepine treatment may be necessary for some patients; this continuation of treatment should not be considered abuse or addiction.
* Panic attacks
* Restless leg syndrome (RLS)
* Initial treatment of mania, together with firstline-drugs such as lithium, haloperidol or risperidone
* Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (off-label use)
* Chronic fatigue syndrome
* Night terrors
* Tourette Syndrome - Clonazepam has shown to be helpful in reducing and dealing with the physical motor tics associated with TS, though is still considered an off-label usage by many.
* Schizophrenia - Clonazepam has been prescribed in order to alleviate the side effects of certain antipsychotic agents used in the treatment of Schizophrenia.

Clonazepam is rarely used as a treatment for insomnia, because its sedative effects are relatively weak compared to other benzodiazepines.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: cmoney]
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I took 6 grams cubes one day, the next day I took 10 grams copes. It took 10 days for me to snap out of it completely. Kept having spells of flashback and everyone around me thought that I was on something and it had been 1 week after the double dosing. If you believe in God and you should after 23 grams, ask for his help and guidance. Please be careful and it will get better. MAY GOD BE WITH YOU!!!

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: sketchydelux]
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Actually, I got it prescribed to me for my insomnia a year ago haha, odd. I suppose he couldent go wrong with the ganja though. I really wonder how factual this whole trip is? I mean seriously, that is such a huge dosage.


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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DuNeRaVeR said:
I really wonder how factual this whole trip is? I mean seriously, that is such a huge dosage.


:thumbup:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: sketchydelux]
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no offense, you are typing the same things as the last time i posted this. im in the loop again. if you are real take care.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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again said:
no offense, you are typing the same things as the last time i posted this. im in the loop again. if you are real take care.


uhhhh :crazy2:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
    #6794535 -

Dude, If you did indeed make it through such a Gigantic dosage, Then you seriously need to go get help from someone who knows what to do in such a dreadful situation.

If this is all just for some attention, then you should probably stop. Because people out there do care for others.

To my knowledge Cyans are the most potent shroom. Now to eat 3/4 would send someone into oblivion and their brain would just shut down. kinda like being kicked in the face real hard.

Now, If someone where to take that much and stay awake and conscious through it, I doubt they would be able to sit here and type out on a computer their situation.

This seriously just sounds like fuzzy logic to me.


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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:thumbup:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #6794608 -

I call bullshit on this, you wouldnt be able to type, if you were tripping that hard, right now.

And if your having a giant flashback.. well try and be cognitive and go to your local hospital and tell them what the hell is going on.


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Edited by blacksun (04/16/07 11:25 AM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: blacksun]
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The thing with mushrooms for me, it seems like everything is supposed to happen, and its all just some crazy dreamy trip, but its all supposed to be like that, even if i do say something which is random, it seems like its supposed to happen, and you can never escape it.
But you CAN.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Seriously? Sounds like one hell of a trip. Maybe I should reconsider doubling my record of 9 dry grams of the cyanescens. Just out of curiosity...what were you thinking when you were chewing up THAT many "1 gram trip" mushrooms? We should hang out, dude. You'd probably fit in well with my small and selective group of psychonauts.


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Long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
-Pink Floyd-

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: blacksun]
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Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Hippie Chemist]
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I was off my insane dose of the cyanescens within about 5-6 hours, but mentally I feel different....just not to the point where I'm having flashbacks "still tripping" or anything. What I wouldn't give for psychotic flashbacks like that... I gotta say, though; if you're for real, there is something wrong here. For the chemical to cause you to trip for so long is just impossible. If you seriously can't stop it, seek mental help. There has to be some way to treat such a strange case of "being stuck". On the comedown, I've felt stuck, but that's because the concept of time hadn't come back to me yet. And if you took them last night and you're still tripping, get away from the computer. Trying to use electronics is bad news when you're tripping. I hope all goes well.


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Long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: SDP]
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:thumbup:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: SDP]
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maybe something happened 7 weeks ago that was big change in your life and its kinda making you think you took them 7 weeks ago. the loss of a loved one, move to a new town? . . . . . thats nuts. you kept talkin about how your in a loop and stuff, and i just had crazy deja vu when i was typing that. . . weird. . . anyhow, i drank tea from a whole seed pod of datura one time and i was all fucked up through space and time man, wild.

call your mom or something ask her if shes seen you in the last 7 weeks. and if you were trippin balls at the time. i hope everything turns out ok man, peace


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: freetree77]
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everyone seems pretty nonchalant about this... bro if you took the shroooms 7 weeks ago than you need to get help if you still feel like this. your definately experiencing megalomania among other symptoms of psychosis, get it checked out. if your lying than karma will come around your way.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: freetree77]
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Breathe. Go outside and enjoy nature. Try meditating, in a sober state of mind, to calm yourself.

Maybe you should lay off inhibiting your mind for a while, or at least cut down a bit. 23 grams of anything is an excessive amount.

If you ever want to talk, please, message me. I can't offer much help, but I can listen.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: LedHead]
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You need to break the loop and prove to yourself that you are not dead, as well as giving it time.

Just hold on there and don't be afraid to lose these thoughts for more mundane and regular ones.

What you need is to step out of your mind, in some very physical, visceral experience with other humans or animals.


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Reclaim the Swastika!

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Compass]
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try grounding yourself somehow. eat some meat. wack off whatever works for yah.

it sounds very difficult but not something god couldn't handle.:smirk:

i wish you the best of luck cuz its sounds like a  nightmare and you will wake from it.

i hope that this is made up, because it sounds like to much for anyone to try and handle.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: 1orange]
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I don't believe you. Stop wasting my time. If you are that screwed up, how did you manage to type that ridiculous post with almost no grammatical errors. Let alone operate a computer.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: UberDeepName]
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I would hope the guy is O.K. but, it seems to be a little strange that in the state he is explaining that he is able to even use complex tools.i.e. the computer. I have had a few in my days and never felt comfortable doing anything but lying there in a coma when I trip that hard. Seems a little off, if not though....you need help bro. I kinda doubt it though.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: UberDeepName]
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UberDeepName said:
I don't believe you. Stop wasting my time. If you are that screwed up, how did you manage to type that ridiculous post with almost no grammatical errors. Let alone operate a computer.


thats a hell of a first post, but i also do agree in some sense


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MarleryCatooOO]
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you obviously overdosed, id suggest making the best of your life, you'll eventually get used to it.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: oou420]
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fucking trolls for fuck sake.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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Trust me you didn't create this reality and me including it. I did.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Infested]
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Fear is what's keeping this thing going, man. 

Fear will start you off on a loop and make it seem like it's impossible to get out. 

Realize fear for what it is.  You create it.  It's only one way in which we choose to relate to the world.  At a certain point, you have to realize that it's a choice. 

I don't think this extended state is due to the chemical still being in your body.  That's impossible after 7 weeks.

You're going to be fine.  Just make sure you take care of yourself.  Like it was said before, vitamins, healthy food, exercise, and sleep-aids if you need them.  Deep breathing. 

After a particularly intense trip of my own (though not even close), I was in a state of disconnectedness and occasional intense delusion.  I would get intense, compound de ja vu ie. "you said that before..... infinite times!!"  When that happened, I would tell someone to do something crazy, and it would usually help. Hahaha.  I would get stuck in those loops, thinking "this moment is looping forever, and i'm only now conscious of it."  Similar to your experience, I would hear the same 2-measure sarcastic melody play in my head over and over again.  But, then I got tired of the fear, let it go and I was better than ever. 

You'll be fine man, just take care of yourself and think about what everyone's saying here.  Also, consider a lower dose next time :wink:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Infested]
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:lol:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip]
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can someone close this thread? I think that the half life of psylocybin/psilocin is too short for the claims the original poster said to be true.


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roses are red
violets are blue
mushrooms are awesome
give me a few

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: flamebolt]
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Could be some HPPD though...
He might be bull shitting us too but what if he's telling the truth?
I think that's what this forum is about.


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I believe you did not take these mushrooms 7 weeks ago...you would be dead if you didn't eat...you probably have lost all sense time and are imagining dates.

Good luck

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Ransford]
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Go to your local clinic and explain your situation, thats what i would do without even consulting shroomery first, with a thing like this.

Take care.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: flamebolt]
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flamebolt said:
can someone close this thread? I think that the half life of psylocybin/psilocin is too short for the claims the original poster said to be true.


Thats a really stupid reason to close this thread.
Obviously you have no fucking idea how this could be true, and obviously dont inderstand how your take on it has actually nothing to do with what is going on with this guy.
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Anyways, this thread(his story) really tripped me out. Gave me an unsettling feeling, because I have been there, but it eventually worked out for the best and changed my life. It was not nearly as bad as what this dude was explaining. However, I believe that its a very artful post.

I know alot about tripping for weeks, and how its possible.
This guy just needs to use a little more logic, and that should help to ground him. I would suggest that he tries to go it alone and work with these effects to better himself.

Getting through this is a process and takes time. If you refuse to help yourself, then you better get someone to help you help yourself.
This kind of thing can be mentally scaring if not treated as an almost divine mental disorder (that is if I read between the lines of his artful post correctly, which I believe is how it was intended to be read).

I have experienced loops but of a different sort. I saw patterns everywhere, and could predict certain things very easily for about a quarter of a year. Borderline schizophrenia with a hiunt of megalomania) I took a peak into the structure of time and matter.
I became like a human calculator. Theories of the cyclical nature of chance, and how everything is truely connected in some fractal including "loops" inside our minds. The structures outside of my body were one and the same as the way my mind was working. Thats how I could see what I saw.
These effects and visuals started to go away after about a half of a year. Almost two years later, I have forgot the structures of the blueprints I used to almost scare myself. Im just glad I remember some of the lessons they taught me. I still have minor visuals all day every day.
You would not believe some of the theories I had. Most of them were too complex to explain, so they had to be drawn as diagrams with words to specify meaning.
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So basically I took a more logical and complex route while I came back to reality slowely. I had to pick and choose what theories I could safely tackle without messing up my brain permanently.
If I had thought that im dead(which I didnt), or that im the only one who really exists(didnt happen to me), Those would have obviously had to be thrown out for my own mental well being. If you dont use it you loose it. So dont humor your own crazy Ideas.
Try to see time more clearly. Time is not disjointed, but it does have some funky traits....lol
I assure you im writing this right now, and If the thread maker has chosen to read it then he should know that he is reading it in real time. Thats the kind of time that is best for his mental health, so he should strive for that safety.

I just dont want this guy to sink deeper. He is borderline schizophrenic as of this point in time.

Anyways. Even if this guy is totally full of shit. I enjoyed reading it just because it really freaked me out. That someone could possibly have taken it further than me, and its hard for me to read this kind of stuff. Psychedelics can turn you into a fucking alien.

Things that really disturbed me were these quotes:

"the skyscraper outside has collaped 4 times today and was built back within 5 minutes. i get into loops and this whole life is a loop. in the last 7 weeks orso i am not sure if it is 7 weeks, calendar says so, i got reborn and experienced my life all over 2 times".

"i look healthy in the mirror, but i dont look like myself, i look half animal but people dont stare at me, in fact noone seems to realize this state i am in, how cant they? 2 friends visit me once in a few days and they dont know it too but maybe thats because when people are close, everything is normal".

"i only hear 1 sound and it is like a neverending symphony but same chord only, no change, with the chatter of daily life in the background. the river is gone and there is a forest now, that cant be, we used to fish there. all plants and trees bow towards me and concrete shines like diamonds. the sun hasnt gone down in 2 days now".

"when i took that stuff i ended everything including your lives"

"i took away the foundation of this universe and now im stuck. i have typed all this before and it didnt help because i am the only one alive that can read it so why am i doing it again"?

Even if this post is a sham, it still hits pretty close to home for me.

Some people are blessed with a bit of psychedelic mental illness, some can become victims of these psychedelic mental illnesses, and some teeter inbetween. I am the later, and hopefully this guy can make such progress.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/16/07 05:25 PM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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Good post.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Infested]
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damn, was any of the trip fun?


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: clemens]
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ARe you talking to me.
If so, it was the best trip ever.
Two days with ayahuasca.
It was both divine and pure science.

I dont really see a reason to take psychedelics anytime in the near future, which is hopefully how "again" feels.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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Nice post, Yage.

Dude, that's an absolute insane dose of copes. If you really are telling the truth, then I wish you the best of luck. I'm sure that you'll get better. Sometimes it just takes time and lots of it.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Feanor]
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after a very intense salvia trip i felt like my whole life was someone else's dream. for like 3 days i kept wondering if i was real or if i was just a part of someone/something's dream. after a while i came to realize that I was real but for a couple of days i really wasn't sure. 7 weeks of that shit topped with massive hallucinations would be hard to cope with but my advise is to wait it out and like yageman said use your logic. if that doesn't happen look for some porffesional help or something dude. take care and good luck.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Feanor]
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The human mind is an amazing and complex thing, and has an uncanny ability to create states of 'psychedelica', delirium, visions on its own without the need for drugs to kick things into gear.

I've had hallucinations / visuals when 100% sober and long before I've tried any drugs. I know people that have had rather profound visions / experiences and moments of ego-loss, and when they are describing them in detail - rings so true to some of my high dose mushroom/lsd trips that its kind of eerie, and this person has never done drugs (except weed, once, about 40 years ago)

Why am I saying this? - Because it is fully possible to get visuals / hallucinations / thought loops / ego loss / changes in perception without the need of drugs to get you there, and it is quite possible that a VERY intense trip could make it much easier to enter these states, even long after the drugs have wore off.

Psychedelics are kind of like a key to the door to reaching these states, its possible to unlock the door with other keys - but using psychedelics is like blasting the door open, and a dose like this guy took is like putting a necular bomb in front of the door, ripping it off of its hinges and most of the supporting structure around it - it's going to take some time for everything to get back in order, if his story IS true (and, I could see it being true...), I hope he gets through it OK.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: kaniz]
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Ya, hes a psychedelic guy now, probably was before, and that dose is insane.
I mean, 12 grams of cubes is a trip to insanity for a great many people(most Ive ever taken, and Im a 2 gram sort of guy). That to me is a hell of a thing to do to yourself.

I really hope he can assimilate to his new brain.
Some people wouldnt do so well with such a dose.

I got a kick out of this thread though. I know that.

Fucking thread made me trip (as though im not tripping already/basically permanently).

His talk about his old fishing hole made me tear up. He just sounded so confused, AND Ive been drinking, have experienced such things, and used to fish at a specific spot..

I guess I just have severe sympathy if this is true, and want to send him good vibes, as if I can really do that. I mean after all, he has read my post before I wrote it.....

I dont know. Its just a kick ass idea for a thread at the very least.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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If I was an illusion, would I tell you?


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: blewmeanie]
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Probably............lol

Somehow.

But there is some pretty weird shit out there..........lol

Real stuff that seems as fake as an illusion.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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yageman said:
Anyways, this thread(his story) really tripped me out. Gave me an unsettling feeling, because I have been there, but it eventually worked out for the best and changed my life.


I'm really glad to see you post that yageman! I was going through the posts, and thinking that a lot of the suggestions for meditation and breath work are okay, but if you've been there, you know that not much is really going to break it off. The trip is there. no question about it, no tricks, no walking it off or waiting...

I had a psychedelic experience that lasted from February to September of 1998. I had taken way too much, and I don't know what happened, but it threw me for a loop. I ended up in the highest floor of the psych hospital and stayed for a month until my insurance ran out. At that point the doctors told my family that I had to be taken out of state and monitored 24-7. I was given Thorazine, clonazepam, and I know there were more, but I forget now. The doctors said I would never read again, never hold down a job or have a real life.

That in a way was like a challenge to me, and I had read my first book in about 4 months after being released.

All in all, I would say going to doctors, or the hospital was probably one of my WORST decisions, and I wish I would've done anything but that. Thorazine is terrible, it's like you're walking around as a shell of a human with no emotional or psychological "insides." I remember crying because I just didn't feel like myself at all, maybe not even human. I had to beg to be taken off that, and kept on with only the klonopin.

I remember seeing everything as significant. If I found a piece of paper on the floor - I was MEANT to find it, and it held information of great importance. I spent hours seeing connections in the phone book between names of business and their street addresses (here's Jos A Bank (store) on Central street, and The Financial Center on Bank Street and Joseph A Banks(person) lives on...). It all seemed to tie together.

It was really crazy, because at that point you really don't think it's drugs anymore, but you. I started to lose the distinction between when I was asleep and dreaming and when I was awake.

I still have all my paperwork from the hospital, and some of the artwork I did...I keep it to remind myself.

Brother, I believe you're going to be alright. I am now remembering this as a part of my distant past. There has been so much in my life after that time, and now, I work in an office, and no one knows anything about that time in my life.

I still use psychedelics, but I always show respect, and things are different with me now in a major way. In some ways, that was a coming of age for me, and changed my life for the better. It has made me who I am today. I still need constant work on my attitudes, perceptions, actions, and everything else everyone needs, but I feel like I've come a long way.

It's weird that even in a psychedelic community like this, I feel afraid to talk about my experiences, because I believe they'll be discounted like the OP's.

Anyway, if you Google HPPD like some others here suggested, you'll at least find like minded people. If you look at some of the HPPD online communities, the people there are mostly functional, but still are constantly dealing with their life being constantly infused with psychedelia, whether it be visuals or thought patterns.

The loops you speak about are upsetting to say the least. When that passes, it will really start to come together for you.

I don't think it'll be permanent for you, as I've actually seen two others who had extended trips like myself. One guy hit his head while tripping on only 2 hits, and gave himself a concussion. He ended up tripping for about a year or more straight. It was really crazy. Another guy I knew tripped for about a week, no explanation, just happened, and then went away.

We are with you my brother. And we are real.
All Light
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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: dwpineal]
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It's weird that even in a psychedelic community like this, I feel afraid to talk about my experiences, because I believe they'll be discounted like the OP's.



People on here, and other drug forums, seem to hate the idea that their beloved psychedelics could have long-lasting, possibly permanent side effects that may not be desired. People are all too quick to write things off as 'just being in your head', 'trolling for attention', or 'just psychosematic, you have issues that you need to deal with'.

But, at the same time - the same users will spout off about the positive long-lasting effects they have had from profound trips. This isnt a one way path, it can go both ways.

I think its largely because many of us had been told for such a long time that 'all drugs are bad, nothing good can come from them' - that many users now take an extreme opposite view, and fail to gain any sort of balance in their views on the matter.

I've seen a few users on here stating that they have had some long-lasting effects, and then seen many people dismiss them which is a shame. You cant understand concepts of harm reduction unless you are willing to accept the fact that harm can be done.

While it sounds like I've experienced nothing like the OP, you, or yageman - I have had limited expierence with some long-lasting effects from psychedelics, and having a few rather intense visual manifestations before I even tried drugs, that I'm not so quick to discount people saying they are still having effects long after the drugs have left the system.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: kaniz]
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Thank you Kaniz, that was a well thought out and well put post. I hadn't thought of that line of reasoning. Makes good sense to me!

There's really so much wisdom here, and good intentions, sometimes you just have to sift through the dirt to find the diamonds.

That's what you need to do Again, focus on the challenges ahead of you, and how you can beat the odds. You are creating YOUR OWN reality (as opposed to mine, cuz I'm doing that here too...funny how our universes all intersect on a virtual web...) Create it the way you want it to be.

Now I have to go and take my own advice...

Love ya,
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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: SDP]
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SDP said:





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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: dwpineal]
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After having read all of the posts in this thread, I still seriously question the truth of this guy's post (since another recent poster, using a different name, wrote in the exact same, hyper-nonsensical way)

See it here, and note the eerie similarity in his writing style-- and the VERY different reason given for it...
Similar? CLICK


With that said, I absolutely love how this forum can take the postings of a recurring troll and turn it into a thoughtful, honest exchange on their super-high dose experiences.

I applaud you for giving meaning and educational value to this boy's ridiculous post.

Seriously-- it's good to know how real people go through when it gets too deep, or far beyond "normal".

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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I saw this thread on the front page of the website and thought I should respond. This person is no longer under the physical effects of the drug unless he has been periodically dosing for seven weeks. With that said, he might be experiencing mental illness induced by his trip. My first trip, due to ignorance, was with over 16 grams of P. azurescens. This species is as potent if not more than copes. The trip lasted around 12 hours and I wasn't completely normal the next day, but definitely alright. This thread does seem like a hoax.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Ubermensch]
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Not to bust your balls, brother... but dear God-- it must have taken a half of an hour just to eat all those azures!! :eek::crazy2:

Would you mind telling us about the experience...if it's not too personal...

:cheers:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: coAsTal]
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Ya, its similare.

But your still a buzzkill...........

Why would anyone try to figure that out?

I dont know...........Maybe cause you are a buzzkill?

Stop being a doink and realize the relevance of the thread this possibly non-faker started.

This guy could really be that out of it (and with it and the same exact time).

Ever taken 23 grams of cop cyans coAsTal ?
Are you an a-hole? Just asking...............lol

Would a person who had taken that much bother to grant coAstal any sort of response?


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Ubermensch]
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Ubermensch said:
I saw this thread on the front page of the website and thought I should respond. This person is no longer under the physical effects of the drug unless he has been periodically dosing for seven weeks. With that said, he might be experiencing mental illness induced by his trip. My first trip, due to ignorance, was with over 16 grams of P. azurescens. This species is as potent if not more than copes. The trip lasted around 12 hours and I wasn't completely normal the next day, but definitely alright. This thread does seem like a hoax.




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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/17/07 03:23 PM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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Hehe-- sorry if I'm a buzzkill :hug:

I noticed the similarity because this post--which obviously is hard to miss-- was so similar to the other one he wrote-- which was titled in a way that was also very hard to miss.

He has a....memorable...style.

But back to the point--
Quote:
....realize the relevance of the thread this possibly non-faker started.



You have it dead-on-- the second half of my post there was doing exactly that: thanking you and the others who have turned this thread into a good discussion.

No, I've never dosed even remotely that high-- but posts like yours help me at least glimpse into what it is like for some people who have.
The thread starter is still a fake, methinks... and that thought might make me an asshole indeed... but I'm still lovin' this board, and thanking you for being so damn cool:)

So, again-- cheers to you!
:cheers:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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Yageman, I Don't doubt your intelligence or experience. But, in theory, Could a human brain seriously accept that much at once and stay conscious?

I guess I cant upfront say this trying to get attention, but it seems very fuzzy to me. Has there been any records of a dosage such as this in history/science before?


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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eat some more, thats what I heard..maybe its not true

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Psy Baba]
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DuNeRaVeR said:
Wouldn't someone technically just black out, wake up, and not remember anything on a dose like that?


Not really
I seriously doubt his story


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: OldSpice]
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dsounds like a troll to me...
if being honest thou..

Do what I do..WHen in doubt take 5 more shrooms


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: John0809]
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On my first trip I ate 15 or so cubes with stems(fresh so no weight). I tripped for about 15 hr, or so I think. That was 2 years ago and I still (sometimes)have visuals. Though they are not as strong as watching buildings fall and be rebuilt. More often than that, I hear loud banging noises, like a dry ice bomb going off... which no-one else can hear. I kinda know how this guy feels. Xanax helps alot for trying to sleep if you are having a prob with that

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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WTF?!?! Anyway, yeah dude, start writing an autobiography, that shit would be nuts.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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.......and seek medical help, although they will just probably give you a labotomy.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GoodbyeOrb]
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Quote:
although they will just probably give you a labotomy


That would be nice...at times

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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Why would anyone be so abusive to their body/mind? What were you hoping to acheive? I really hope that this is bullshit. I wish you the best just the same.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Zepplin]
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I offer this.  "again"  PM me some info, bro.  I'll help you out.  I'm willing to drive or fly to your house and save you.  I'll bring shrooms and LSD and we'll figure out A) if you are real, :cool: if you are full of it, and C) how to fix you.

I offer.  You accept?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GrizzyCappy]
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"B )" should not make a sunglass happy face.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GrizzyCappy]
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Personally, I suspect that he's only been going for up to 7 days. One of the primary things affected by these drugs is TIME PERCEPTION.

Sure, he mentions dates. But sometimes, memories can play back dislexic...

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GrizzyCappy]
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Its obviously fake how do you create a shroomery account while tripping that hard.


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GrizzyCappy]
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Zepplin said:
Why would anyone be so abusive to their body/mind? What were you hoping to acheive? I really hope that this is bullshit. I wish you the best just the same.


I sort of am wondering the same thing.

DuNeRaVeR said:
Yageman, I Don't doubt your intelligence or experience. But, in theory, Could a human brain seriously accept that much at once and stay conscious?

I guess I cant upfront say this trying to get attention, but it seems very fuzzy to me. Has there been any records of a dosage such as this in history/science before?


I have read stories. You know chinacat72, mr "thumbprint".
Well he knows that people have done this before. I think he may have mentioned that he has done it himself. 24 grams that is.
People have done this before.
If you can handle a serious thumbprint, according to some of these people, you can handle 24 grams of mushrooms.
I think I remember asking if you just pass out at some point, but I dont remember the response. I believe alot of people would pass out for a number of reasons.
I recall reading that its harder on the body than the typical thumbprint(massive dose of lsd).

If anyone wants to know why a person would do this to themselves, just ask chinacat72. I have talked to him about it, and well, I guess he had his reasons. Something about a right of passage among other things.

I would never do anything like these doses he and others talk about.
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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/17/07 03:40 PM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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lol did anyone actually buy this crap?

he has very good spelling, punctuation and grammer for someone who is stuck in an eternal trip...

i dunno about the rest of u, but when im tripping balls i dont know wot the hell a keyboard is, let alone how to operate it :lol:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
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i aint sayin hes not fucked up but its true when i am trippin i cant not function a computer for my life... i remmebered i tried to play counter strike once and swear it was the funniest shit ever and i wasnt even doin anything


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: FunkyPhil]
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after effects are a hell of a thing.

this guy is not on mushrooms anymore.

I tripped my balls off on ayahuasca for a atleast a week(visuals included), even though the first day is what was obviously the most intense.

The second day I still had massive visuals and a serious mind job.
I could work a computer If I wanted to though.

I still think this is a useful thread.
This kind of thing can happen with such a dose.
That and people have indeed ingested that many mushrooms before.
The true stories Ive heard were mostly from trustworthy characters I met at this site.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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Going with fake I think

That or someone I'm not sure how much sympathy I can have for. Eating those kinds of quantities and not being able to handle the effects provides another statistic to help keep them outlawed

And if this is fake, it's also incredibly irresponsible to even post up the incentive for someone else to genuinely fuck themselves over

uarewotueat said:
i dunno about the rest of u, but when im tripping balls i dont know wot the hell a keyboard is, let alone how to operate it :lol:


+1 even moderate trips usually scramble my ability to speak and make any sense.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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i cant lie in this state. peculiar to see people who probably never took more than 5 grams talk like they know how it must be to have taken 23 and how one should react.

i can type like this because i am not high, not tripping. i am sober and experiencing these things and more which i wont go into. i havent taken any drugs for more than 7 weeks, confirmed. ive been doing mushrooms for almost 20 years, the last 9 years ive never taken less than 15 grams every time i did it, which is every full moon. i grow them myself.

i wanted to break the real barrier and some, not the fake one everyone is experiencing. it wont get you there under 15 grams, those are not real experiences, although they seem like it. you wander in shadow realms with those low doses which you call extreme. filled with mirrors, fata morganas. it actually makes you more attached to your shadow self.

with this 23 grams i have broken the barrier and cant go back. i am not insane, this is real. this is the flood. i now experience a different place but am still here, it wants to shut down, go back to the source, thats why the loops occur now i see. why things have changed places, time is altered, sun staying at the same position and going back so it can stay longer, the morphing back and forth of life, foundations disappearing and coming back. the drone chord dominating, colors losing their color so only the geometry is visible then returning in full bloom.

and noone seems to notice me being different which confirms i am not high. everything is gone, no turning back. floating above the material world while attached to a thin cord.

this was pointless like before, noone confirmed it.

again, you dont really exist.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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id just be interested to hear more from you...some of the things you have said have really struck home with me. Interesting....

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: dedjam]
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None of us really do exist. We're all just the imagination of ourselves, right? It'll all be ok with time...which isn't really existing as anything other than our imaginations again. You'll either get better or get used to it. Just keep that in mind, and you'lll be ok. Peace!


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Long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Hippie Chemist]
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Yeah, good luck on your journey again.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: coAsTal]
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i like this guy... good writing.

too bad he took way too many shrooms over his life and he fucked his head up probably permanently. all i can say is seek medical advice.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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Do you see this as a negative thing or a positive thing.?

How do you imagine your future like, do you have any goals?

Best of luck. Take care.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Gr33nTree73]
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echoes73 said:
AroundtheSon said:
You took too much, too much.



is this a fear and loathing quote, when hunter took too much adrenochrome? :thumbup:


I was going to ask the same thing...:grin:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: DayTripper1]
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pretty convincing, i feel like I'm tripping right now, and I'm sober.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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again said:
i cant lie in this state. peculiar to see people who probably never took more than 5 grams talk like they know how it must be to have taken 23 and how one should react.

i can type like this because i am not high, not tripping. i am sober and experiencing these things and more which i wont go into. i havent taken any drugs for more than 7 weeks, confirmed. ive been doing mushrooms for almost 20 years, the last 9 years ive never taken less than 15 grams every time i did it, which is every full moon. i grow them myself.

i wanted to break the real barrier and some, not the fake one everyone is experiencing. it wont get you there under 15 grams, those are not real experiences, although they seem like it. you wander in shadow realms with those low doses which you call extreme. filled with mirrors, fata morganas. it actually makes you more attached to your shadow self.

with this 23 grams i have broken the barrier and cant go back. i am not insane, this is real. this is the flood. i now experience a different place but am still here, it wants to shut down, go back to the source, thats why the loops occur now i see. why things have changed places, time is altered, sun staying at the same position and going back so it can stay longer, the morphing back and forth of life, foundations disappearing and coming back. the drone chord dominating, colors losing their color so only the geometry is visible then returning in full bloom.

and noone seems to notice me being different which confirms i am not high. everything is gone, no turning back. floating above the material world while attached to a thin cord.

this was pointless like before, noone confirmed it.

again, you dont really exist.


First of all, you need to repect those who have given you some info and have been there(like myself)...........I tried anyways
We are very real, and most of us would like to slap you upside the head after those last few remarks. Real people can cause you pain buddy.

Secondly, 12 grams is a massive dose, I have been there.
Then again I consider 5 grams to be a massive trip.

Have some respect if you are going to put the time into responding to even a thread that was started by you.

I can confirm that you are a faker, or a disrespectful nutter.
You are not going to teach anything to anyone about your head if you assume they are not real and your lazy, or a faker.

If this is real, you seem like a cop-out.

This turned out to be a funny and interesting thread.
DOnt be the least interesting PERSON here "again".

That would be so very ironic.

You know what ironic means? Well thats real too.
Just like the rest of us.

If you are so deperate then why can anyone here read between the lines and call you a fake, a troll, or in my case, i now think you are doink with any motive imaginable that I dont find favorable.

Thats for the disrespect.......lol, while you probably read the good posts found here, and being totally oblivious to anyone around you(the computer included).
Im right next to you on the computer, and your starting to gross me out.

For a person who has taken such a dose, you are both intersting and sickening.

Greater things can be done in that place.
Youve given it a bad name by being a bullshit artist who pretends that he cant see the truth.

Give some respect, and try your best to be less of a nut.
Have you read this before? Im sure you have, just like my last long post about your little story. I was respectful, and anyone with a head on their shoulders could tell I was both sympathetic and informative. I confirmed the reality that makes you real.
Your ideas are almost sinful, and I dont have any specific religion.
I made my own. Atleast my view on this universe is based on complex logic and understanding. The exact opposit of yourse.

The best stuff will obviously be found in a place where your as of now pea-brain, will allow the nature to roll in on you like a tidal wave.
We are real, and unless you want to continue being a fucking scar on the psychedelic continuum, then level with us and stop being so damn fake sounding.

If this is your artful way of describing it, I beginning to this your not even good at that.

Edit that:^^^^^ "Im beginning to think that your not even good at that". See, im drunk and only human, and I make mistakes.
Thats not your own my high dosing brother.
Thats an edit in the real world.
Im glad that I, a REAL person took the time to level with you........LO-fucking L

Get real brother. Its for your own good.
You are talking to the weirdest of the weird here, and in a few ways you are starting to piss me off.

Lastly, have some respect for nature and science.

Your loosing it. You will find your god is not nade by you.
god is objective and can be understood in my opinion.
Maybe you should have been reading books and taking shrooms at lower doses.

You are a faker, or a disrespectful nut-bar.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/18/07 12:38 AM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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yage man your awsome:grin:


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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dude you found the secret, we do make the universe as it is around us.
i have had an experiance that was quite like yours but i dont think that intense.:borat:
be carefull when you explore to not get lost


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: flushme]
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No we dont. Id say........
(even though im sure you must be kidding)

Lets fly this to the philosophy forum.

We are the mirror. We are simply part of the conscience. Much like self conscious neurology even.

We are a mind, followed by an over mind, followed be an overmind and another, etc, etc.

We can only be so good at this hierarchy.
We sure as shit aint god......lol.

Thats my take on it.

We may be one with god, but our own gods may differ greatly.

Some are more functional and real than others.

The one that is real will have its way, eventually.

If going to a forest preserve or a fucking jungle and seeing all the action isnt enough, then you just need to look inside.

Ya, the earth is very real.............evolving.....lol.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (04/18/07 01:25 AM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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Intro:
I just read most of this post (not skipping much).
i feel compelled to make a response.
I promise i speak sincerely(Open and genuine; not deceitful).
I am sorry for my lack of technical/grammar skills.
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A little background:
I'm good at listening to arguments and seeing certain details that people miss(it is often easy to see the real problem if you are not acually in the battle/war).

I have only done mushrooms once in my life (Try if you can to not look down on me/my knowledge (not claiming to be a genius by ANY extent, i just see certain things in a certain clearity) because of this, but when i tryed shrooms i saw all the little things that most experianced "trippers" overlook or take as general knowledge (if one was to study "general knowledge" they would see that each individual piece of gold that our society regards as everyday thinking has a well of knowledge deeper then the ocean).

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"again" is trying to be serious with you all. He is indeed "messed up" but their is a reason for that, he cheated, I will expand on that later.

The reason why this post caused so many people to reply is simple(this will probally get lost in translation, but try to keep this in the back of your mind) he was absolutely truthful/sincere about everything he told you guys. He had zero percant(either good or bad) bias toward any of you when he began to speak. Everyone has bias's towards all types of things, that is the exact thing that distorts your view to the world. Being "stoned" or "high" is just a way to release that discomfort, give yourself a break from hating/liking so many things at once.

When someone is truthful one of a few things happen:

A. If this person has no bias toward this subject matter he will listen intently (if he has the time/will to do so) and create true ideas about this subject. The bias's of the person telling him/her this information will add in their say to make the listener also a follower of what he believes, therefore turning his/her honest facts into mere opinions.

B. If the person has already heard of this/reasearched it for himself he will try to inform the other person of the truth (the truth being whatever his bias's are). the important part, If the person that was listening has a better TRUTHFUL understanding of what the subject matter really is he WILL win over the conversation (either by making the other person too anger/and or leaving the situation altogether).

INTERVENTION:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
This is probably more sincerity in 5 minutes (hopfully rereading some of my words, so 10-15) then you get in month, but please try to hang in there.
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(a SIMPLE yet interesting fact about the post):
RIGHT when "again" said that he is going to leave, HE LEFT. He did not in anyway make contact again, he assumed that you all are really just a reacurring loop in time(which made me really sad because he thinks theres something wrong with him still, and no one will listen to him.) as for the later posts with "levitus" that is something i will not touch on, i did not read them fully, and theres more there that i dont not understand. Do not let that cloud your judgement.


The fact that i am trying to act very polite to everyone and everything is no coincident. I myself have many bias's. too many i'm sure. But when someone is speaking sincerely he leaves those behind. ceating a reason for controversy. Once again i urge you not to form any "bad" bias about that last paragraph/and or any of the above, let your mind find what is true and what is not true.


The person that i would credit was Yageman.
He opened up sincerely (when i tell you all this, the little reaction you get (if you read the post carfully/fully) will go something like "yeah, obviously. He made the biggest controversy/stir (stir/controversy is usually because of truth)." but becareful when you say that because you are just loosing that fact of what he did to grab your attention.
and forming a cheeky little comment to hurt your views on what else i have to say.

The attention grabber was "again" simple, he was nearly (if not completely) truthful when he spoke. I will not touch on his hate post because it really does not matter in the scheme of things.

Cheating.
When someone takes a chemical (we will just call it that for lack of a better word/unbiased word) that causes them to "trip" it is forcing them into a state of conciousness where they see truth. That is why it's called a mental vaction, because they truth will put your mind at ease.

They only way to acheive this peace and not feel the repercussions of cheating is to not try to find the easy fix, to do the things that acually make you feel good.

This one i will try to say carfully.
Saying what i did in the last paragraph touched on that fact that "i'm cheating if i take any kind of drug!" which will stop you from sincerely reading what i say faster then a bolt of lightning.
I do not look down on drugs in anyway other then messing with your health. Using drugs means your still trying to acheive that point of ease, your not just lost in a constant struggle of feeding the monster inside.


taking 2-5gram of a "paradise chemical" is making small adjustments such as making you happier for a day, or appreciate life for a week. But by taking twenty-three grams of the same type of substance is like typing in -allweapons -god on quake2, IT RUINS LIFE. You do not know how to use the "tools" that you have acquired unless you have previously owned them.

You understand SO many things, but you dont know how you got there (its like when you cheat on your math homework, and the teacher doesn't accept it because you didn't show your work). That is one of the biggest reason no one will believe him. It's a curse, you get everyone anger because you tell them the truth which activates their bias's. You know the answer but can't get too it again without more drugs. It is god's way of saying "no, sorry"......
You cheated.

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Breathe:::::......::::::breathe::::.......::::::::Breathe:::::::::::
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This post was no one way meant to "fix" all the problems that were brought up by "again" (started) and what you guys said(responded). But merely to point it into a purer direction. Explore your ideas, don't let a cover up emotion rule your life.

Thank you for reading, and trust me i try everday to take my own advice.


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"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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Been a long-time reader here. Just signed in to say this, never was compelled before.

If this guy is for real then he is in the next stage which we can't understand. He sounds real according to my findings over the years, not many people reach that state. Usually they get jailed, burned on a stake, hanged, assassinated, crucified. Which also happened in this thread .

yageman's last post is a fine example of that, he said people gave him respect and all, but all I saw was insult after insult, where was he reading? If I had been him I would have given everyone something back in return and never come here again because people here attacked something important and mocked it.
There is more ego in this thread than I've seen anywhere else and it ain't coming from ' again '. Sure, a few were trying to be helpful but they totally got drowned out by the other side. And the advice given is meant for newbies, for experienced trippers like ' again ', they are pointless.
He also didn't ask for sympathy or how to come down, but confirmation about you, which like he said, noone actually gave. This is important for you to understand, that's why he was here, he wasn't interested in anything else, so of course he will ignore those things and in your eyes disrespect it.
People were involved with their ego not their true selves, pointing fingers, trying to level, throwing mud, be compassionate, casting stones.

HeiligBoomerz, well written, I was going to try something similar but I lack the time to do so. He didn't care about the opinions on his state (so no bias like you said) but was investigating.

If people really read carefully and set aside their ego, they would understand what ' again ' said and be supportive of it. If this is a fake thread then I don't know what to say. If this is real (which I believe it is), then soon he is going to pass on to the higher realm, completing his stay here and never reincarnate.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Caracal]
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:thumbup: i agree with that, with all the arguements and shit we propably only confused again even more (if he bothered to read them)


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: oou420]
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Please don't turn yourself over to a hospital or any kind of so called authority on matters of the mind. Those people don't know anything when it comes to these kinds of experiences (although they think they have it all figured out), and will only try to amputate your mind with toxic drugs.

as dwpineal pointed out on page 4...
Quote:
All in all, I would say going to doctors, or the hospital was probably one of my WORST decisions, and I wish I would've done anything but that. Thorazine is terrible, it's like you're walking around as a shell of a human with no emotional or psychological "insides." I remember crying because I just didn't feel like myself at all, maybe not even human. I had to beg to be taken off that, and kept on with only the klonopin.


Glad you're here to talk about it, dw. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Clean]
    #6803774 -

well you see god is somewhat everyone we all by living are part of it, thus it in a sense and we all can at any time have access to and be one with and in being one with you are, thus you can create the universe around you or atleast the reality. lets say for instance reality is controlled by will and lets say theres so many people that believe a certain way and thus they will that things must be that way or cant exist thus inhibiting the truth of how everything works. but if they are unaware of certain things the obviously can not will against it due it it being an unknown unknown to them.:grin: if you catch were im going with that. Accession is the key to the power of the so called "god" as in becoming one and being but to fully be one, one cannot exist physically thus when fully entranced specially with someone else you can create anything and destroy anything in front of em a key tool in shamanism.
tho i might as well throw it out there that perhaps this universe was created by an ascended being who stays infinitely conscious and maintains a flow, ill also throw it out there that maybe everyone isnt capable of achieving the universal mind just as everyone is not to be a medicine man regaudless i cant say that for sure so yeah i still have much work to do.


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

Edited by thedudenj (04/18/07 10:26 AM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: thedudenj]
    #6804508 -

Yageman, the reason most people do thumbprints is to "enter the circle" of trust.  It was their way of ensuring nobody infiltrated the family.  DEA never got a single head through that net.  :wink:

I imagine there must be VERY FEW people who would do a thumbprint more than once.  Blown open for good, they say.

Chinacats experience was also due to the initiation, from my recollection of our discussions in the days.


Personally, I ate so many damn shrooms, my hands blew up.  I'm surprised this guy did not experience any physical side-effects, because after all - you are eating mushrooms, mold, vegetation.  And as we all know - even potatoes and water can be toxic and sideeffective to your body.

This is why the safest way to blow them open is with LSD.

My attempt to break through with shrooms left me dealing with the sucky fact that the shrooms are a fungus and at a certain point, your body doesn't like it.  With acid, you can go to town.

Tell you what, though - aside from my hands blowing up - I felt a bit like he describes, as being above the material world and in a different, timeless place in the universe...

Cheers all.  Hope you get better dude.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: GrizzyCappy]
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Your hands blew up? What?? you want to expand on that a little maybe? I doubt your hands actually exploded like there was dynamite in them, or maybe so, but I don't know what else you would be eluding to with an idea of "blowing up." Major swelling?

Get well again! I am real and this is new information! not a thought loop bro.

Also, several people did confirm his request to identify if we were real or not, so those of you who said we ignored this - you might want to re-read the thread.

As for again's 'new found state of mind' and being whisked away to higher dimensions and all that business: I'm sorry but that's hogwash. I find it incredibly hard to believe that there would be such an easy way to escape this realm of existence. If you truly believe that then why haven't you done the same thing yet? afraid of enlightenment?

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: fazdazzle]
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Blew up = got REAL big. Double, at least. Looked like Popeye. Had just eaten handful after handful of homegrown shrooms, after reaching a highlevel trip already. Wife went to bed. I've always been skinny and wanted to be big and was staring at my hands and arms and they started getting bigger. I was happy, and wanted them to keep growing. They did. Then they got too big. I wanted them to shrink so I ran them under cold water. Nope, I still look like a gorilla. I try chewing on a raw egg. Makes me puke. I puke up so much shrooms into the sink. Arms are still big. Bad news. Woke up my sober wife. She freaked out and wanted to call 911. Until then, I thought it was all in my head. Spent the rest of the night keeping her calm as she cried making me promise I'm not going to die. Called a friend and he said I had to "undo" it with my mind. I laid down and tried. Fell asleep at some point, and woke up normal, with a HUGE GLOW and appreciation for life and my wife.

Ever since, I'm scared to eat more than 3-4g at a time. That was my breakthrough, I got what I wanted and it kicked my ass.

But I came back. Sounds like he didn't. Maybe some more shrooms or acid will put him in the same place and this time he can bring himself home?


(This was 2-3 years ago. You could probably do a search by my prior name: Grizzy and find my post the day after.)

Edited by GrizzyCappy (04/18/07 03:50 PM)

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: fazdazzle]
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fazdaddle, you totally missed the point here just like pretty much everyone else. I didn't want to mingle, but seeing nobody is willing to do it, but be rather busy with defending their ego in different ways, I will step forward.

' again '......I do not exist, never have, never will.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Caracal]
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So you have a new name now?

Did I somehow miss your point about how nothing exists by trying to help you/this guy and let him know there are other people like him.

I was pretty egoless, defending nothing when talking seriously about such after effects.
It was all genuine.

Sorry if I missed some point of his/yours.

I dont think anyone really saw much of a point anyways.

Care to enlighten us all?


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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yageman..... Ask the administrator to check my connection and if it is the same as ' again ', I will give you 100 dollars, my word. If it is not, you owe me an apology for making false accusations, stop being an ass.

Second, if I told you I am a shapeshifting reptilian and I am your best friend, would you accept that? By saying you exist to ' again ' you do exactly that. You do not confirm anything but defend your ego. What you thought was about being egoless, sincere and genuine is actually the opposite.

I knew I shouldn't mingle because as a long-time reader I know how threads on this forum get sabotaged with trivial bickering, accusations, etc., by the usual suspects, so last post from me then.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Caracal]
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I'm surprised that this thread is STILL going. All I've been seeing is "23 grams" over and over and over again. All I want to do is find a good drug forum that makes you think, but it's all been the same stuff recently. Anyway, what ever happened to "again"? I even tried to PM the first day, but he/she wasn't accepting messages.


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Long you live and high you fly
And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
And all you touch and all you see
Is all your life will ever be.
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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Hippie Chemist]
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This guy 'again' is a mindfuck. In other words, he's awesome...

'again, you do not exist' haha, that's good stuff.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Caracal]
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Caracal said:
yageman..... Ask the administrator to check my connection and if it is the same as ' again ', I will give you 100 dollars, my word. If it is not, you owe me an apology for making false accusations, stop being an ass.

Second, if I told you I am a shapeshifting reptilian and I am your best friend, would you accept that? By saying you exist to ' again ' you do exactly that. You do not confirm anything but defend your ego. What you thought was about being egoless, sincere and genuine is actually the opposite.

I knew I shouldn't mingle because as a long-time reader I know how threads on this forum get sabotaged with trivial bickering, accusations, etc., by the usual suspects, so last post from me then.


Sorry buddy, I wish my long winded advise and sympathy was of use to a person like you/the guy who made the post.

Im done with this thread.

You and the thread starter just make me sick to my stomach.

("By saying you exist to ' again ' you do exactly that. You do not confirm anything but defend your ego".)

Ya see how that makes no sense?
Its void of logic entirely.
I dont care about the outcome. What matters is that I was true with my words, and quite passionate actually.

Im just trying to help what might be just another potential troll realize whats real. Only because I find this subject interesting and have been to some pretty strange places myself.

That post was bunk.
Sorry, thats reality for ya if you have read the rest of the thread.

My ego is not the issue big guy.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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We are the mirror. We are simply part of the conscience. Much like self conscious neurology even.

We are a mind, followed by an over mind, followed be an overmind and another, etc, etc.

We can only be so good at this hierarchy.
We sure as shit aint god......lol.

Thats my take on it.

We may be one with god, but our own gods may differ greatly.

Some are more functional and real than others.

The one that is real will have its way, eventually.

If going to a forest preserve or a fucking jungle and seeing all the action isnt enough, then you just need to look inside.

Ya, the earth is very real.............evolving.....lol.


:thumbup:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: yageman]
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My ego is not the issue big guy.


:thumbup:

Although I don't hang out here as much as I should, it seems to me that you've always gone to great extremes not to get into detail about your experience that you've alluded to many times. 

I, for one, am glad you finally did.  Your and Kaniz's posts made much sense to me. 

Great stuff in this thread!  Even if it's dilluted with a bunch of BS, there are some real gems to be found....


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Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense...

"Religion is a defense against a religious experience"
              Carl G. Jung

 
"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
Terence McKenna

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: Caracal]
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Caracal said:
' again '......I do not exist, never have, never will.


thanks for breaking the loop. noone will understand what you just did. i am grateful.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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ahah they are obviously the same person.:lol:


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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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wee i shape shift but in not a reptile and cant say i have shifted into one only mammals and birds


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: thedudenj]
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I am friends with a true shapeshifter and therefore I love this thread, all posts included.  :heart:

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MOTH]
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yeah but i really am you have to do it sometimes when medicine maning


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: thedudenj]
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My friend doesn't exist here.  He can shapeshift into any energy figure he likes.  That's how we communicate the majority of the time.  :heart:  He likes the dragon form, green, blue and purple.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MOTH]
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oh im not so good at going into energy form and when i do my body remains thus its not really shifting my shape to energy as it is leaveing my body and manifesting as energy


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
oh im not so good at going into energy form and when i do my body remains thus its not really shifting my shape to energy as it is leaveing my body and manifesting as energy


I understand both qualities of shapeshifting...I am getting into the "leaving my body and manifesting as a different energy" type of shifting, but my friend can do it totally, because that's how he was designed.  He helps me travel realms I may not be able to enter just yet...

Either way, I :heart: shapeshifters.  Fuck yeah.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MOTH]
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Keep it real, and keep it VERY real yall shapeshifters.

The "base" is no joke.
Your brain is not some small part.

I always loved reptiles.........lol

Bottomfeeders caught my attention aswell.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: MOTH]
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i can just do shadow people,animals,gnome form then, obe and be energy but im not to good at that


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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again said:
Caracal said:
' again '......I do not exist, never have, never will.


thanks for breaking the loop. noone will understand what you just did. i am grateful.


I wasn't going to post here anymore, but because you responded, I will once.

You're welcome. Just take the next step, you know what it is.

What I don't understand is why you posted it on this forum. Although there are a few genuine folk here, this forum is known for it's childish members who talk jive, sabotage threads, ridicule, accuse, stroke their own ego, etc. They popped up all over this thread, no need to mention their names, just look at the ignoramuses go.. .

If you had posted this on the 2 other well-known forums about this topic, you would have gotten the answer I gave you within the first few posts, rather than after the 100th like here. That's because on those forums people actually know what they are talking about and how to handle cases like yours.

I'll PM you the links to those forums, hang on.

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Re: i took 23 grams of dried copelandia cyanescens [Re: again]
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This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Stopping the time loop, this thread no longer serves a purpose IMO.

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