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are Hallucinogens bad for your brain?
    #6785075 - 04/13/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I am particularly interested in shrooms and MDMA.
do they have physical damage on the mind?
or will they mess up a mind that is still developing?

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: happyman]
    #6785078 - 04/13/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Please research.

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: happyman]
    #6785079 - 04/13/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

MDMA is not a hallucinogen
For further research on their side effects:
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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6785083 - 04/13/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

thanks and sorry i didnt look first

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: happyman]
    #6785238 - 04/13/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

It has been shown MDMA causes brain damage in higher doses and in excess use. This consists of destruction of 5ht2 receptors. They get destroyed as serotonin is released and will grow back but only half ass. Shrooms do not cause any physical brain damage. I suggest using the search engine for more in depth information


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: happyman]
    #6785467 - 04/14/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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happyman said:
I am particularly interested in shrooms and MDMA.
do they have physical damage on the mind?
or will they mess up a mind that is still developing?




Shrooms:thumbup:

Most e you find on the streets will not be just MDMA. So if you're going to try MDMA then be patient and find MDMA. If you're buying pressed pills  that are all kinds of crazy colors and have all kinds of crazy names then you are most likely  about to down an assortment of drugs along with a smidgen of MDMA. I bet you already knew that, but I'm amazed at how many friends i have that cant even fathom the amount of other drugs in their pills. Some are even cut with caffeine!! haha. Choose wisely my friend. unless you're in to that sort of random drug cocktail scene.

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: Polyrhythmanaut]
    #6785559 - 04/14/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Polyrhythmanaut said:
Quote:

happyman said:
I am particularly interested in shrooms and MDMA.
do they have physical damage on the mind?
or will they mess up a mind that is still developing?




Shrooms:thumbup:

Most e you find on the streets will not be just MDMA. So if you're going to try MDMA then be patient and find MDMA. If you're buying pressed pills  that are all kinds of crazy colors and have all kinds of crazy names then you are most likely  about to down an assortment of drugs along with a smidgen of MDMA. I bet you already knew that, but I'm amazed at how many friends i have that cant even fathom the amount of other drugs in their pills. Some are even cut with caffeine!! haha. Choose wisely my friend. unless you're in to that sort of random drug cocktail scene.




Fuck that is so rediculous. Around my parts no one even knows what pure MDMA is :frown: Not even me!!! haha :frown: :frown:

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: happyman]
    #6785562 - 04/14/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

didn't you learn anything from Mr. Mackey?

Drugs are bad.


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: demiu5]
    #6785631 - 04/14/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I guarantee you that no drug will physically damage your mind.

that being said...

www.erowid.org

they have a health section on MDMA and there is info on health under the Mushrooms FAQ, they don't have a dedicated health section for mushrooms. Probably because there is no need for one.

Erowid is always a great place to start for pretty much any substance, and they have tons of links and info.

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: JstHereFrTheCake]
    #6785693 - 04/14/07 02:05 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

JstHereFrTheCake said:
I guarantee you that no drug will physically damage your mind.






thats a mighty bold statement you are making and its quite wrong. I suggest you do some reading yourself.

Edited by DeathCompany (04/14/07 02:06 AM)

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6785708 - 04/14/07 02:20 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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JstHereFrTheCake said:
I guarantee you that no drug will physically damage your mind.




:what: seven words for you:  Dh-a-tur-a


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6785711 - 04/14/07 02:23 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Actually, since the mind is not physically manifest, you cannot physically harm it. Psychologically on the other hand.


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #6785744 - 04/14/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Hey good call, I might be one toke over the line tonight. :smile:

Doesn't meth reduce tissue size?  Or are you refering to the mind that exists outside of the brain? :wink:


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: schmutzen]
    #6785749 - 04/14/07 02:44 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I made a distinction between the mind and the brain. (they are two different things after all)
But I was just being a smart ass.


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #6785763 - 04/14/07 02:49 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

A smartass is better than a dumbass. :smirk:


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: schmutzen]
    #6785768 - 04/14/07 02:51 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #6785857 - 04/14/07 03:54 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

MDMA is bad for the brain. effects dopamine/serotonin receptors and is proven to cause depression and destroy memory/concentration.

shrooms/lsd on other hand proven not to have any effects in heavy or long-term use. YAY

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: retrospect]
    #6785956 - 04/14/07 05:33 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Drugs that will harm your brain physically are Meth, Alcohol and Inhalants, and Ketamine, PCP and DXM if you believe that Olney's lesions are real.
Datura does not damage the brain physically, but mentally it can do....stuff.

MDMA will oxidize (burn) serotonin receptors, actually the dopamine that is being picked up by serotonin receptors because serotonin itself is depleted from the experience. You can counteract this damage with 5HTP, Vitamines B and C, and Magnesium, which will also make the comedown much more pleasant than it is. Some studies say that the damage is not permanent. Actually, this damage is the least danger of MDMA. Folks get screwed from mixing with other drugs (alcohol and uppers), dehydration, or, ironically, water intoxication.


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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: schmutzen]
    #6786028 - 04/14/07 06:57 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

namaste said:
Quote:

JstHereFrTheCake said:
I guarantee you that no drug will physically damage your mind.




:what: seven words for you:  Dh-a-tur-a




I can vouche for the Dh-a-tur-a being very dangerous.
1 1/2 weeks in I.C.U at my local hospital when I was 18.
To this day I still have Kidney problems.

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Re: are Hallucinogens bad for your brain? [Re: Baph]
    #6786142 - 04/14/07 08:11 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Yes but ti doesn't harm the BRAIN in a physical way


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