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Offlinenevershroomedb4
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tell me if this is true or not
    #678087 - 06/14/02 10:46 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hi all, iv never shroomed b4, and im about to get some mushies, and my friend said that takin shrooms twice is like bein an alcoholic for a yr cuz its so bad for ur liver, i dunno if this is true or not, he freaked me out when he said that, i need some help, thx

-dan


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #678101 - 06/14/02 10:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This is completely false.


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: ]
    #678113 - 06/14/02 10:57 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Your friends a funny guy. Is he a comedian?


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: ]
    #678118 - 06/14/02 10:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

tell your friend to get some schooling on toxicity. That's completely untrue. Ignorance scares me...in all things.

Love & Light,

Boppity


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #678201 - 06/14/02 12:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Your friend is a greedy bastard and he doesnt want to share his shrooms with you. why else would someone make up crap like that?


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #678302 - 06/14/02 12:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That is about as stupid as it gets !!!

Tell your friend I said that


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #678376 - 06/14/02 01:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, what a greedy bastard, don't beleive that shit!
Alcohol kills your liver, shrooms do not.

Mushrooms are just as harsh on ur liver as LSD is, which is none... If something is harming your liver, it isn't psilocin/psilocybin. That still doesn't mean you should eat as many as you want, remember to respect the mushroom, and the mushroom will respect you back.

Peace~
-ban


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Banshee]
    #678661 - 06/14/02 04:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I can't testify as an expert cause I'm not medically or pharmacuetically trained...but I can tell you this much:

- I was straight-edge til I was 22. Never drank or smoked anything. I started smoking weed in college. No liver trouble.

- I started to dose MDMA in 1999/2000. I rolled a total of 12 times in my life. 2 times a few days after a strong roll I ended up in the ER because my liver began producing too much of a particular enzyme which then cause my gall bladder to swell up; worse pain than a kidney stone passing. This condition is called chlyocistitis (klee-oh-sih-stite-iss). In April of 2000 I gave up MDMA and decided to never roll again.

- I continued tripping only on LSD and smoking weed since that time up until February of 2001. That was when I decided to stop ingesting anything synthetic. While still tripping on LSD (around 2 or 3 times a month) I never once had a reoccurance of chlyocistitis.

- Now I'm only smoking weed again and looking forward to tripping on shrooms. I've had shrooms 3 times in the past...just never had a large enough dose to cross the tripping thresholds. But never once after any of the 3 times I ingested cubes or the one time I ate a quarter of a dried muscaria cap did I ever get any liver problems.

So, all I can tell you is that my liver doesn't like methamphetamines but doesn't seem to have any trouble with other tryptamines. Not even DXM which I tried 6 times in my life since 2000. But again, I will no longer ingest synthetics so that one is out the window too...plus I don't like the correlative data between DXM usage and Olney's Lesions in the brain.

Love & Light,

Boppity


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Boppity604]
    #680013 - 06/15/02 11:42 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

liver damage, hahahahha, fuckin idiot piece of shit.


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #681304 - 06/16/02 05:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Your friend sounds like a dick who shouldnt be taking shrooms in the first place, i expect he just wants to get wasted on them and see cool shit.


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #681305 - 06/16/02 05:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

your friend is gay


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: stealth]
    #681431 - 06/16/02 07:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey stealth...I'm one of the many gay people here at Shroomery...and I find your comment very offensive. Keep it respectful.

Boppity


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: nevershroomedb4]
    #682532 - 06/16/02 06:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yea dood its true and the poisin make ur brain bleed 2, and ul have like flashbax and seezhures an shit from the lsd in teh shrooms cuz the sporez gro in ur spinle fluid and never go away neither, and there usuely laced with pcp to like i new this guy who had this friend who ate all these triple stacked pcp shrooms once at a rave an jumped out a window cuz he thought he was superman and mustev never stoped trippin cuz now hes all skitsofrenic and think hes like made of orange juice so u cant touch him or hil spill. dude dont even try shrooms there poisin just get sum robo at walmart its teh best and dat shit fucks u up.
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Welcome to the Shroomery, Dan.

Please:
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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Boppity604]
    #684674 - 06/17/02 07:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

by gay i meant lame, not homosexual. and his friend is still gay in my book, by that i mean lame.


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InvisibleBoppity604
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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: stealth]
    #685056 - 06/18/02 03:45 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Stealth,

To defend hatred with common usage is worse than just being hateful. The word gay has been turned into a negative connotation from the original usage in English. The fact that it's used in any negative connotation is offensive.

Love & Light,

Boppity


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Boppity604]
    #686658 - 06/18/02 07:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It also shows his age. You never hear anyone over about 16 using "gay" as a synonym for "lame" or general-purpose insult. It's very much a middle-school phenomenon. Lots of sexual insecurity among 6th grade boys.


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Xibalba]
    #686866 - 06/18/02 09:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

First of all. Sorry to sound like a jackass but, I myself am aware of some slightly different information. Being in the scientific field myself I did a research project on the physical effects of Mushrooms. 250 people volunteered to ingest 3 grams of cabensis but prior to the experiment each was checked for blood toxicity levels. A day after ingestion each participant was again tested for blood toxicity. 83% of the participants showed definite spikes in toxin levels, but the spike was similar to that of ingesting Naproxen Sodium (Aleve). Naproxen has been proven to lead to severe liver degredation if taken twice daily without food over a period of several years. The degredation isn't as severe as if the same was done with alchol. As long as it's taken with food, or only on an occasional basis it has no lasting effects. The same was concluded to be true with mushrooms and quite obviously people won't be taking mushrooms twice daily. 3 days after ingestion toxin levels were back to normal. Just some personnal experience. As long as you don't over do it and take 20 pounds of mushrooms


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: psychomycul]
    #688036 - 06/19/02 11:27 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

What exactly are these "blood toxicity levels" you're talking about measuring? I don't quite understand.

"Toxin" isn't a chemical you can test for. Can you put my blood in a machine and determine that it's 18.5% 'toxic'?


I looked up "blood toxicity" and mostly just found some really questionably 'holistic-wellness'-type crap websites.

So- what is the active chemical in mushrooms that you were measuring here, what does it do to damage the liver, and how has its toxicity been established compared to Naproxen Sodium?

Also how/ where did you perform and publish thisresearch? In the US it would have been very illegal.


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Re: tell me if this is true or not [Re: Xibalba]
    #689511 - 06/20/02 03:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

~*** WARNING***~
URBAN DRUG LEGEND.

This type of stoopid info really f@ckin' gets me. Your friend is a dumbass, plain and simple. Probably the same dude that sayz your brain bleeds to cause tripping and that shrooms have poison that makes you trip...wait is that right? Are we all in agreement that it is not 'poison' that makes you trip... any-hoo!

Have we lowered our selves to the level of dumb beasts?


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