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Left and Right Sides of the Mind
    #6775150 - 04/11/07 01:31 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Here is a very interesting article about the left and right sides of the brain and how they function independently.

http://www.viewzone.com/bicam.html

This article makes me wonder if your spiritual eye can be scientifically defined. This 'third eye', as its referred to, could actually be the area of the brain where both sides share information. A booster, such as a psychedelic, helps increase this connection speed and allows for both sides to become one. This point of unbiased information becomes your third eye. And for the rest of your life, you see the world from both perspectives; art turns to science and science turns to art.


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: mikebart101]
    #6775160 - 04/11/07 01:35 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Pineal gland rocks :thumbup::heart:
Thanks for the article I'll go check it out


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: mikebart101]
    #6775276 - 04/11/07 02:00 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

yes, good article

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Experiments show that most children rank highly creative (right brain) before entering school. Because our educational systems place a higher value on left brain skills such as mathematics, logic and language than it does on drawing or using our imagination, only ten percent of these same children will rank highly creative by age 7. By the time we are adults, high creativity remains in only 2 percent of the population.




:congrats:

explains a lot about this society  I think

Edit: Shucks.  Oh well.


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: mikebart101]
    #6775342 - 04/11/07 02:18 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

This concept of neurological functionality is dated and has been thoroughly discredited.

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After about a decade of trying to find a categorization scheme, scientists concluded that the left and right hemispheres could not be simply characterized. By the mid-1980s, more and better data indicated that there were not left-hemisphere tasks and right-hemisphere tasks. Rather, it seemed that both hemispheres contributed to nearly all tasks in a normal brain, and when one hemisphere was better than the other in a particular type of processing, the advantage was usually modest. (The only exception seems to be language, which does appear to be mostly localized in the left hemisphere for most people.) The broad participation of both hemispheres in most cognitive tasks became especially apparent in the 1990s when brain imaging data (e.g., from fMRIs and PET scans) of normal subjects became widely available—both hemispheres participate in virtually every task.




http://www.aft.org/pubs-reports/american_educator/issues/fall2006/cogsci.htm

While it is certainly interesting to theorize about methods which could improve cognition, IMO there is much more food for thought in the current "triune brain" theory proposed by Paul McLean.

http://www.psycheducation.org/emotion/triune%20brain.htm

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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: Veritas]
    #6775452 - 04/11/07 02:42 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

I remember from my basic course at university, that both hemispheres have competitors 'attitudes'. So they can better specialise.
But maybe I have to reread.

Tri-une brain, can be interpreted in some total different way, too.
Rising a 'third' 'virtual' mind, out of the dual brain (hemispheres) :grin:


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: mikebart101]
    #6775620 - 04/11/07 03:15 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

The mind has no 'sides'.:rolleyes:


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #6778976 - 04/12/07 01:45 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

Yes, I was taught about the split-brain theory during my psychology courses, too. More-current research has disproved the validity of the working theory & the popularized notions that some people are "right brained" and some are "left brained." The specialization simply doesn't exist.

The triune brain is based on the idea that our brain evolved over time, and addresses the functions of each progressive level of neurological development we attained. This development is mirrored during gestation and each "level" comes into use in turn during early childhood.

Check out the site I linked, it provides all the basic info. about this theory.

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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: Veritas]
    #6779263 - 04/12/07 02:55 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

Does the pineal gland actually release DMT or a chemically similar.. chemical?


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: WScott]
    #6779270 - 04/12/07 02:57 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

It releases DMT only in certain moments. But yes it does.
Don't you just love that gland? :smile:


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: Veritas]
    #6779299 - 04/12/07 03:03 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

Hehe, I was joking about this triune-theory. Of course it is relevant in the way you describe, but I don't see it in any way opposite to the hemisphere-specialisation theory [or in general, to the tendency of brainfunctions to specialise by separating] :wink:
Yes, as I said, I will inform me further into that, as I am very interested in discoveries of neuroscience. A quick look at the first article just didn't convince me :smile:


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #6779575 - 04/12/07 04:22 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

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With all this evidence, Hellige says that researchers have come to see the distinction between the two hemispheres as a subtle one of processing style, with every mental faculty shared across the brain, and each side contributing in a complementary, not exclusive, fashion. A smart brain became one that simultaneously grasped both the foreground and the background of the moment.




The trouble with the hemispheric specialization theory is that it is not backed up by scans of brain activity.  The original study was done on damaged brains which had been artificially "specialized" by severing the corpus collosum.  Once researchers were able to test this theory on intact brains, they were forced to abandon the concept of the split-brain.

Here's another article for you:
http://www.rense.com/general2/rb.htm

The Triune Brain theory has far more merit, and the research backs it up.  :thumbup:

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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: Veritas]
    #6779677 - 04/12/07 05:02 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

i have never given credence to left-brain-right-brain-pseudo-science.


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6779681 - 04/12/07 05:03 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
It releases DMT only in certain moments. But yes it does.
Don't you just love that gland? :smile:



this may not be experimentally proven or scientifically inferenced.


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6779683 - 04/12/07 05:06 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

It's been done some research on it.
Until now that's what they say.


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: mikebart101]
    #6779724 - 04/12/07 05:24 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)






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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6779729 - 04/12/07 05:27 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

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Rick Strassman, the author of DMT: The Spirit Molecule and a psychiatrist associated with the University of New Mexico School of Medicine (Note not a research neurochemist), was the first person in recent decades to obtain federal approval for human-subject research with a hallucinogen (now an antiquated word but still used). Strassman hypothesizes (note this is not science just because some Doctor proposes it, or hypothesises; also note, even if all doctors are smart and the rest of us are idiots) that under extreme conditions the pineal gland produces psychedelic amounts of DMT. It is hard to know what to make of his subjects' experimentally induced reports about their experiences with this very quick-acting, powerful, and short-duration drug. .




is this what you are referring to, because it is not founded on anything:
"that under extreme conditions the pineal gland produces psychedelic amounts of DMT"


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6779746 - 04/12/07 05:35 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

Yup that was it.
And I said some research, not solid proof


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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6779748 - 04/12/07 05:36 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
 








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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6779772 - 04/12/07 05:43 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
Yup that was it.
And I said some research, not solid proof




No, a hypothesis is just an idea, not research. Strassman could not research the actual release of DMT, he just created his own explanation of the effects he observed.

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Re: Left and Right Sides of the Mind [Re: Veritas]
    #6779803 - 04/12/07 05:53 PM (17 years, 8 days ago)

You're right :thumbup:

I confusesd it with the other research he did on the pineal gland concerning melatonin


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