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Ogla
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any proven moethods for charging potency?
#6761848 - 04/08/07 04:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well besides rye? I read an article where adding the stuff in turkey that makes you sleepy works. But i was woundering if there were any proven methods that would increase potency.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: Ogla]
#6761858 - 04/08/07 04:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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This was just covered in detail today. There is nothing you can add that will improve potency. Potency is genetic. RR
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etam
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6761873 - 04/08/07 04:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You could probably lace the substrate with DMT and increase 4-HO-DMT content dramatically. I've only read about it, but apparently it works at the correct ratios, as mushrooms metabolize pretty much any tryptamine and "4-HO" them.
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Blutjager
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: etam]
#6761926 - 04/08/07 04:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can read about a dozen threads about this in the advanced forum,I even have places book marked somewhere where you can buy the stuff that is supposed to work.I can dig them up for you if you really want to try shoot me a pm and I will see if I can find them,none of this is proven however and you are more than likely just wasting your time,energy,money.Good mushrooms given what they need throughout their growing cycle will be about as potent as you are going to get them on their own
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agar
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: Ogla]
#6762023 - 04/08/07 04:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you "charge" potency, with a visa card?
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: Ogla]
#6762144 - 04/08/07 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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dirtracer24
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6762157 - 04/08/07 05:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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eat more but most people dont use chage cards so slip into the atm before you get there
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etam
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: Blutjager]
#6762180 - 04/08/07 05:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Blutjager said: You can read about a dozen threads about this in the advanced forum,I even have places book marked somewhere where you can buy the stuff that is supposed to work.I can dig them up for you if you really want to try shoot me a pm and I will see if I can find them,none of this is proven however and you are more than likely just wasting your time,energy,money.Good mushrooms given what they need throughout their growing cycle will be about as potent as you are going to get them on their own
I believe it's actually been done before. I read about it in Shulgin's Tihkal originally, and I believe he had some colleagues who had tricked mushrooms into producing 4-HO-DET instead of 4-HO-DMT by supplementing the substrate with DET. I'm not 100% on this, but I do believe it has been done. And I believe he noted that using too much of the tryptamine in the substrate can also mess things up. So I have no idea what ratios to throw in.
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: etam]
#6762218 - 04/08/07 05:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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agar
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6762239 - 04/08/07 06:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fasting------> for 36 hours. Before you bio-assay, will increase potency.
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: agar]
#6762285 - 04/08/07 06:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Blutjager
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6764299 - 04/09/07 07:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: Speaking of increasing potency... I spend very little time here in 'The Psychedelic Experience' forum, but I just a few days ago, for the first time, came across the extremely lengthy threads on soaking powdered mushrooms in cranberry/lemon juice prior to consuming, & then the thread about the juice that supposedly acts as a MAOI & increases effects even more. I can't believe that as long as I've been here (this site) & as long as I've been tripping, I've never known about these methods. Regardless, I'm excited to give these new techniques (new to me anyways) a try the next couple of times I aim for enlightenment & celestial bliss 
Or this >> http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=1&Number=4714757&fpart=&PHPSESSID= thread,its 15 pages long
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somniferumfields
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Re: any proven moethods for charging potency? [Re: Ogla]
#6764557 - 04/09/07 09:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The stuff in turkey you're talking about I assume is Tryptophan? There is an interesting study on the similarities between Tryptophan/Melatonin and Seratonin in the brain in the book "DMT the Spirit Molecule".
I'm not sure what effect it would really have on a trip though, except maybe making you a bit more mellow, or sleepy.
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