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how do i mod this food hydrator??
    #6761277 - 04/08/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i just bought this yesterday and over dryed some musheys so it came to my attention that i need to take the heating element out of the food hydrator


heres some pictures






not too sure what i am doing here would help if someone with some electrical experience could tell me what to do

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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761294 - 04/08/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i had the same looking deal i clipped the wires to the heatingelement but fan still works fine looks like you should be able to do the same id clip it close to the soldered edges though so not hot wire dangling inside.


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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761298 - 04/08/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Seems to me the simplest solution would be to not disconnect anything and just have the heating element outside the unit, still connected up. This way you avoid short-circuiting or overpowering anything. Of course, when you turn on the dehydrator, that heating element will still turn on as well, so keep it the hell away from the table it's on and don't touch it.

I suppose if you really wanted to avoid just setting it outside the unit and wanted to remove it entirely, the safest option would be to snip out the heating element and solder in a resistor (or several) with the same total resistance. The first method would be a lot simpler though (if a little more dangerous).


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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: dirtracer24]
    #6761300 - 04/08/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

clip whice wires

the black n white?

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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761331 - 04/08/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

alright so i want to take out the heating element because it wont sit outside of the case far enough away it just dangles on the bottom

so how do i go about taking the thing out ? resistor needed? i have a sodering iron so if i can figure out the resistance of the heating element and happen to find a resistor in a old electronic thing

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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761370 - 04/08/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, the next step sort of depends on how things are connected up in there. If the heating element's connected in parallel with the rest of the gubbins (probably will be), all you'll have to do is cut that thing out of there. Otherwise, not so easy. A good close up picture of the wires connecting everything (especially wires coming out of the power supply unit) would be helpful.


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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761379 - 04/08/07 02:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

so i found like 3 resistors but i dont know if they will work

ha im pretty confused now all i wanan do is make the darn thing stop heating

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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761403 - 04/08/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

heres a few more close ups






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Re: how do i mod this food hydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761409 - 04/08/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

it looks to me if i just dis connected the black wire from the power cable the heater would stop ?

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761420 - 04/08/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Just keep the two wires hooked up to the fan...don't worry about color...there should be just two wires running to the fan.Cap the others and tape them up...you don't need no resistors and crap like that if your just running a fan straight off the 120v feed. If you know how to use a multimeter or even have one just get a hot and a common to the fan...pretty straightforward.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: manna420]
    #6761434 - 04/08/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Snipping the black wire off the Heater core would cause the Heater to stop working and should allow the rest too, since thats a seperate ground needed to the seperate power wires going to the Heater. Disconnecting that wouldnt leave any hot wires around either.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6761474 - 04/08/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Id say snip like this, incase you needed to rehook, you could still do so.



You could still keep it connected in there, but it wouldnt be running. Eletric tape or cap off the end if you want to be extra cautious.

Edited by Shepx83 (04/08/07 02:40 PM)

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6761475 - 04/08/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I only suggested the resistors because I thought things might have been connected up in series (not the case). Looks like you just need to clip the black wire leading from the heating element. Note you'll still have live (red) hooked up to it, though, so watch it.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: exagram]
    #6761489 - 04/08/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

As long as the black is cut and not connected, it wont be live at all to be shocked or anything.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6761509 - 04/08/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well, the live will still be supplied, so touching that element while not standing on a rubber mat will give you a nasty shock.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: exagram]
    #6761576 - 04/08/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Well, the live will still be supplied, so touching that element while not standing on a rubber mat will give you a nasty shock.



True I just ment the heating unit alone. You would really have to wedge your finger down in between the metal to touch it tho. :tongue2:

Edited by Shepx83 (04/08/07 03:03 PM)

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6761747 - 04/08/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

well i fixed it
unfortunately my laptop died right after i posted my last pics so i didnt see what u guys said

i did get it so the heater isnt in the thing and the fan is working


well now im all set and i just harvested another flush so there in it now

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761763 - 04/08/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Sweet. Take pics!


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: exagram]
    #6761803 - 04/08/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

here it is
see i just took black out of the equation

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6761895 - 04/08/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I wish someone would have told you before you made the modification. The dehydrator isn't worth much without the heater. It wont tottaly dry the mushrooms. You might as well just point a regular fan at them... How hot was it getting anyways? My dehydrator operates at 140-150oF and I've noticed no loss of potency.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: musher_420]
    #6762034 - 04/08/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

well it came fairly cheap so i dont mind this is the only purpose i have for it

im not sure how hot it got all i know is it made my mushrooms shrivel up to crisp stems and little bulbs

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6762055 - 04/08/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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well it came fairly cheap so i dont mind this is the only purpose i have for it

I'm not sure how hot it got all i know is it made my mushrooms shrivel up to crisp stems and little bulbs




More than usual ?? I mean they usually do shrink quite a bit considering they are 90% water

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Blutjager]
    #6762209 - 04/08/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: agar]
    #6762216 - 04/08/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

why the hell would u take out the heating element ?


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Blutjager]
    #6762221 - 04/08/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

arent you flirting with disaster putting that much heat on your shroomies man


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #6762229 - 04/08/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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why the hell would u take out the heating element ?




LOL, I wondered about that, too.

Dehydrator without heating element, is a fan box.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: agar]
    #6762307 - 04/08/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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is this dancing tiger?

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: dirtracer24]
    #6762320 - 04/08/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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arent you flirting with disaster putting that much heat on your shroomies man



I guess not. Hah sorry dude if I led you into doing something that the reset seem against. I know I read on here of someone else doing the same. I still have yet to get to my growing stages, so I wasnt sure if dehydrating at that high of temps did hurt anything. Worse case you could always reconnect if my method was followed. :tongue2:

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: agar]
    #6762325 - 04/08/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

so do you or do you not have to modify a food dehydrator before use? because i have read that you do ..

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: zeng216]
    #6762344 - 04/08/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

fuck so u guys told me to take the heating element out and i did and i didnt have too????

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6762357 - 04/08/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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fuck so u guys told me to take the heating element out and i did and i didnt have too????




lol exactly.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: usg543]
    #6762359 - 04/08/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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NO...............

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is this dancing tiger?




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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: usg543]
    #6762363 - 04/08/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

haha well that sucks cuz i basicly destroyed the heating element trying to get it out .........thanks guys

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6762371 - 04/08/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

ill try to return it for a new one the store i got it from has a pretty good return policy

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: agar]
    #6762373 - 04/08/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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agar said:
Quote:

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Quote:

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-->:rockon:




NO...............

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Visual & body trip combined.:rockon:



is this dancing tiger?







nice, i've been meaning to do a little microscope work with dancing tiger, what is the cube above it though?

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    #6762377 - 04/08/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

EQ


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: agar]
    #6762444 - 04/08/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

so for the record

heating element in the food dehydrator

good
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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6762524 - 04/08/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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i just bought this yesterday and over dryed some musheys so it came to my attention that i need to take the heating element out of the food hydrator


heres some pictures






not too sure what i am doing here would help if someone with some electrical experience could tell me what to do





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fuck so u guys told me to take the heating element out and i did and i didnt have too????




Seems to me like you started the post under the impression that the heater needed to be removed. People just told you how to do it.

You'll find a lot of conflicting information about heat and potency. IME temperature <150oF for less than 18 hours doesn't effect potency.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: musher_420]
    #6762544 - 04/08/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

well under another one of my post i told some people i thought i over dryed my mushrooms and they said thats because i had the heater in and i needed to mod it and take it out

but now i belive i know that i can safely say that the heater can stay?

i got to return my dehydrator and just say it doesnt work so i can get a new one that stil has the heater in

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: checker_grower]
    #6762953 - 04/08/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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haha well that sucks cuz i basicly destroyed the heating element trying to get it out .........thanks guys




Doh that sux. But in your first post you started off saying you wanted it removed, you didnt ask if you needed it so i assumed you did want it out. But the way I did point out and mention in my steps is to snip the ground, so you could still use it in the future.

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Id say snip like this, incase you needed to rehook, you could still do so.



You could still keep it connected in there, but it wouldnt be running. Eletric tape or cap off the end if you want to be extra cautious.





Better luck next time and hopefully you can get it returned.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6763666 - 04/09/07 01:17 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

there is no reason to remove the heating element as this does NOT cause potency loss i use my dehydrator at 150 all the time and never had any problems



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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #6764305 - 04/09/07 07:39 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

what do you mean over dried? how can you over dry them unless you don't like the texture of really dry mushrooms when you eat them? you want thyem bastards as dry as possible for storage. And also don't blame these people for answering a question you asked them.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Artnotwar]
    #6764316 - 04/09/07 07:47 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You can't over dry, you can't over die.


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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: boatshow]
    #6764323 - 04/09/07 07:50 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

It has already been established that it doesnt need removed.

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Re: how do i mod this food dehydrator?? [Re: Shepx83]
    #6766957 - 04/09/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

well see i did not know that potency isnt effected at all and i didnt kno there wasnt such a thing as over dried

so i am sorry
but its alright because i learned from it
and iam getting a new dehydrator so its all gravy

u guys r still cool ha

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