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UPDATE 2: Picked some..how do they look?
    #6759046 - 04/07/07 08:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok well I have come to the conclusion that my light source is creating a strong reflection off of the perlite...causing some mutants to have their caps growing down towards the perlite.

I actually picked this one a little ago because it wasn't growing much anymore and the stem had some streaks on it...either blue or a bluish green(probably just bruising).
I will post updated pics later tonight.


I have a desk lamp, with a 15w blue light (fish tank light) sitting ontop of the pod...so the light is about 12 inches above the cut out.

Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? What if i lined the underside of the lid with aluminum foil...would it then bounce the reflection from the perlite to the foil?

Also all the caps are pretty small...the pics will show you later..any ideas?


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Edited by StickytasticBud (04/08/07 10:40 AM)

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Re: PMP light source creating mutants? [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6759206 - 04/07/07 09:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Get the proper light. Your mushrooms don't need a tiny mood light. They want full spectrum light. There's nothing wrong with them growing toward the perlite. They all eat the same, regardless of which way they point.
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UPDATED: pics [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #6759766 - 04/08/07 12:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

This is the picked one


Pics of my cakes...need opinions...the RH is always between 90-98% and temp around 70..





And this is my light...its a 25w..finally checked..haha.
Also forgot to mention...it has been on a 24/0 lighting cycle...but am moving it to 12/12....I did some reading and this would be best?




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Edited by StickytasticBud (04/08/07 12:24 AM)

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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6759795 - 04/08/07 12:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Guessing what RR said. Needs proper lighting.

Your Temp and RH sound good, and there not struggling for FAE so that all seems fine. And yes, 12/12 is good. 24/0 isnt.

Edited by Shepx83 (04/08/07 12:28 AM)

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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: Shepx83]
    #6759803 - 04/08/07 12:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So would you suggest just moving the light up higher and putting in a 60W regular light bulb?


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6759806 - 04/08/07 12:28 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Go to Home Depot and grab a $20 13" fluorescent plug-in light to put on top.


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6759812 - 04/08/07 12:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I dont think you would have to move it further, unless Heat was causing problems. But I did edit my last post, to do 12/12, cuz 24/0 isnt as healthy for em, if at all.

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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6759814 - 04/08/07 12:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

get a fleurescent bulb and screw it right in there and go 12/12 good to go


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: JonnyOneNut]
    #6759815 - 04/08/07 12:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

personally I think your light is fine... your cakes look good (for cakes) ... more FAE is what you need. you can use the light you're using now, things will work out well.

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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: zeng216]
    #6759819 - 04/08/07 12:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It was probably the 24/0 lighting schedule. They arent showing signs from lack of FAE. So do as you said with the 12/12 and all should be fine, although im no expert. :tongue:

Edited by Shepx83 (04/08/07 12:34 AM)

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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: zeng216]
    #6759834 - 04/08/07 12:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Sweet thanks for the great responses...i usually only get one or two!


Forgot to post the pic of the PMP



so the mushrooms with broken veils...just let them keep maturing? Or pick them once the veil is completely broke?


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6760258 - 04/08/07 05:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A broken veil means spores are about to be (or have been) released, and that the mushroom should probably be picked, since it'll suck more life out of the cake for less actual growth than new mushrooms will.

These pictures remind me of a question I've been meaning to ask. Whenever there are only a few mushrooms growing on a cake, they seem to concentrated in groups on the edge of the base of the cake (or sometimes, like here, on the tops). It struck me that this might be related somehow to which way up the jars were incubated; though I may be utterly wrong about this. Anyone got a clue?


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: exagram]
    #6760527 - 04/08/07 09:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah only thing is...no one has said about the half broken ones...what should i do with those?

And about where the mushies grow..

The "tops" of mine are the bottom of the jar...all of my jars colonized the bottom of the jar first.

I read one tek that said to flip them over and then others no not. I birthed mine straight onto the lid basically.


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6760784 - 04/08/07 10:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Here are my new pics. I think i might have things under control for the moment.

This is what is left on the cake i picked from...should i pick it off? I can not tell if its doing anything anymore.

And here is the picked stuff.



And here are my other cakes



What happens when the veil breaks all the way on this big one...but all the little ones are attached to it.



Sorry i am a picture whore...just need as much help as possible.


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6760818 - 04/08/07 10:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It's cool.

My knowledge on harvesting falls a bit short here. I think cutting out the large mushroom and letting the small ones grow is a viable option, though you may want to get someone to corroborate this.

Could I ask where you got the scale? I'm looking to get my own sometime soon.


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: exagram]
    #6760892 - 04/08/07 11:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you definitely want to pick those shrooms when the veil tears and begins to open. ive always been told that the mushroom no longer produces psilocybin when the veil breaks, and it just gets heavier and actually loses potency. i dont know if its true, but i have personally always had harder trips from small closed cap shrooms than big open caps of equal weight. i would say pick those suckers. your cake should be spending that energy on new shrooms. great job tho


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Re: UPDATED: pics [Re: exagram]
    #6760963 - 04/08/07 11:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Could I ask where you got the scale? I'm looking to get my own sometime soon.




ebay is the best place in my opinion. you can find some that go to the hundredths for under $25

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Re: UPDATE 2: Picked some..how do they look? [Re: StickyTasticBud]
    #6762554 - 04/08/07 07:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dude,
Hey It my first Since Post 02'!!!!
I am wondering why you need the light anyway. Shrooms need the light to know the direction to grow, not anything else. with that case window the ambient light coming in during the day should do it. If the room is pitch black when you are gone, buy a string of white xmas lights, the LED kinds are the best(no heat, low power) and set them up above the chamber to give the shrooms direction. I have used light before to help control temps and be a light source. If you dont want to change then use a low wattage bulb, (you arent hurting anything-Well if you dont mind the downward directing fungi).I dont do that anymore, but i did 5 years ago and that was a batch or two ago.......

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Re: UPDATE 2: Picked some..how do they look? [Re: nw2shroom]
    #6769066 - 04/10/07 08:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The scale you can find on ebay for pretty cheap.


Ok well i fixed my problem...it was the RH. I went and bought a better gauge that was accurate...and the RH was only about 80-85.

So i added more perlite, because i had too much water, and it brought it way up to about 95-100.

The fruits that finished growing look like normal mushrooms! they are not all mutant like w/ weird caps tearing away from their veils.

I am actually going to leave the light for now i think. Once i put it on a 12/12 cycle the ones that grew were the ones that were normal. (after the RH change too though)


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