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dirtracer24
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fist bulk spawn any advice???
#6759134 - 04/07/07 08:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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so i bought some 10 gallon ziploock bags and pasteurized a 50/50 cp straw mix.i am spawning 7 qt jars of cracked corn to it i made one sizable hole with poly and cinch the bag very tight stuffed it in the bottom of my incubator which seems to average around 80-82 deg.how longshould i leave it alone and let it regain it self confidence and colonize the bag ad from the bag do i lay it straight in the bottom of my monotub and whats a good casing depth with large bulk grow it is 35 gallon monotub and id say the bag will fil the tub about 5 inches.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759205 - 04/07/07 09:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmm, advice:
a) colonize bulk tubs at room temperature
b) make sure you pasteurize and not sterilize the bulk sub. as this promotes bacterial bloom
c) a 4"-5" depth is ideal.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759226 - 04/07/07 09:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks roachman so i should yank it out of the incbatorthen???it is pesh strain dont know if that matters.and yes i pasteurized in oven at 170-180 for two hours then let it sit in oven till cooledi think this should be proper pas. and it was at field capacity so moisture content should be ok no bad smels from cracked corn only that yummy in the tummy shroom smell mmmmmmmmmmmmm cant wait.an as ar as in monotub right on the bottom or do i need a mojsturizing medium under it as well as the casing?/
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759232 - 04/07/07 09:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some people use a reservoir material underneath, but it is unnecessary.
Yes, I would take it out of the incubator and keep it at room temperature (closer to 72-74 degrees).
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759252 - 04/07/07 09:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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not doubting in any way but wouldnt the pinset be better if i went from incubator to monotub just for the temp change like i said only asking not doubting??
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759260 - 04/07/07 09:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cold shocking doesn't matter in cubensis.
Fresh air exchange given to 100% colonized substrate is what makes for an even pinset.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759275 - 04/07/07 09:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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very good your word is good enough for me thanks for the time and advice??everything else sounds good though????
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759288 - 04/07/07 09:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Umm, I think you could let it colonize...out of the bag...inside the monotub.
However, if it is molded to the bottom of the tub it won't really matter much later when you try to dunk it, etc.
If it doesn't fit to the bottom of the monotub then I wouldn't let it colonize more than 3-4 days before spreading it out in the bottom of the monotub.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759304 - 04/07/07 09:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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how long should i dunk for i only ask cause there are so many opinions out there so its hard to know what to do being a noob.and its not molded so should i take it right to the monotub and the hell with the bag all together
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759309 - 04/07/07 09:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Probably wouldn't hurt to transfer it now.
Woh, I just noticed this: 50/50 cp/straw That's COW poo, right?
You don't dunk until after the 1st flush.
What will you be casing it with?
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759322 - 04/07/07 09:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes its been composting for bout 6 months usually used for my other growing
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759358 - 04/07/07 09:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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if i go to tub just cover with plastic and weight it down until colonized then case it and wait patienly??
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759377 - 04/07/07 09:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not that familiar with straw substrates, but I've never had that much moisture loss in a monotub that I had to put plastic over it.
If you're doing that and applying pressure to make an even layer then go for it.
The pressure could have a slight negative effect on the rate of colonization though.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759395 - 04/07/07 09:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i don t need to cover to protect from air in tub while it colonizes????????
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759453 - 04/07/07 10:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nope. Just put the entire mono-tub into a black garbage bag to keep any fresh air exchange from occuring through the polyfill holes.
This will still allow for gas exchange that will promote healthy growth.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759464 - 04/07/07 10:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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awesome dude thanks for the advice how long do you suggest before removing the contractors bag from around the tub and 1 inch casing sound good enough to you to produce some nice sized fruits????????
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: dirtracer24]
#6759548 - 04/07/07 10:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Approximately 10 days; make sure the entire top layer is well colonized.
A 1/2" casing layer is better.
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Re: fist bulk spawn any advice??? [Re: RoachMan]
#6759569 - 04/07/07 10:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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sounds like thats all i need to know so i guess ill get on that tonight before it gets comfortable in the incubator
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