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jccc
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Toad Venom
#6759186 - 04/07/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just wandering if anyone has tryed extracting the venom of Bufo alvarius toads to obtain DMT/? Sounds very interesting but unpopular...why???
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6759202 - 04/07/07 09:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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bufo alvarius contains 5-meo-dmt (not n'ndmt) and bufotonin
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jccc
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Sorry but still is this a good source of 5-meo-dmt, if so why isnt it that popular?
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6759233 - 04/07/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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it carries a stigma mostly
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jccc
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: roby000]
#6759237 - 04/07/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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what do you mean??
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6759239 - 04/07/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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well its not a straight up 5-meo-dmt trip it includes the bufotonin which is highly psychedelic on its own. I think its because the frogs are sort of expensive and you got to take care of them. Perhaps the idea of milking your pet is odd and scares people away from getting them.
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jccc
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Yeh it does sound odd...but still erowid reports make it sound as if you can obtain lots of 5-meo-dmt over short periods of time
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DeathCompany said: Perhaps the idea of milking your pet is odd and scares people away from getting them.
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6759342 - 04/07/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Out at one of the job sites I worked last summer, these guys were all over the place. Bigger than dinner plates too, some of them. There were also wild iguanas out there as well, which is rather odd.
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so has anyone here ever had a toad and harvested stuff off of it or whatever? how do u ingest the toad ooze?
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DeathCompany
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someone posted in another thread that you evap it and freebase.
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dude that is insane, can these toads be purchased easily?
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DeathCompany
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yes there are online vendors, search for Colorado river toad
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indica
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just smoke the whole toad man you will get sooo baked lol
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: indica]
#6760232 - 04/08/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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xk3m_indica said: just smoke the whole toad man you will get sooo baked lol
haha, can i vap it and then eat it?
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: flamebolt]
#6760291 - 04/08/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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the 5meo-dmt is probably good but Bufotenine will make all your muscles lock up and you would hate it try smoking some A. Colubrina "yopo" seeds, I read they contain the same chems I tried them twice and it was the worst shit ever better yet just have someone give you a charliehorse and imagine that in EVERY muscle of your body for 10 minutes
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jccc
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: cpw1971]
#6760334 - 04/08/07 07:21 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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For anyone wondering how to milk these toads there is whole sections of it on erowid..An cpw1971 ive heard that certain toads only contain 5-meo-dmt with no bufotenine
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6760410 - 04/08/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bufotenin can be found in Toads and Yopo seeds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufotenin
Bufotenin actually gets its name from the frog.. "Bufo alvarius"
And ive heard that there are other species that exclude 5-meo-dmt not bufotenin. So one way or another you will be taking that shit, not saying its bad.
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: Infested]
#6761429 - 04/08/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whats the cheapest place to get these toads??
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6761455 - 04/08/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive never heard of toads with only 5 meo but i have heard of toads only with bufotonin
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jccc
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the colorado river toad has 5-meo in it, also known as the bufo alvarius http://erowid.com/animals/toads/toads_writings1.shtml http://erowid.com/animals/toads/toads.shtml These gave me imfo that state it does have 5-meo in its glands and that you can milk them once or twice a month to obtain suffiecient doseage of 5-meo-dmt, which sounds like a good deal!!
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6761533 - 04/08/07 02:54 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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jccc said: the colorado river toad has 5-meo in it, also known as the bufo alvarius
yeah but it also has bufotonin
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jccc
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O ok well if bufotonin harmful other than it may give you cramps?? And by the way what sites sell these things for cheaper than 150 bucks!!!
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6762380 - 04/08/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think its too harmful, no one said it is..
Don't forget that you need shipping of a living animal. And that isn't free.
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jccc
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: Infested]
#6762441 - 04/08/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeh true... oh and i just read that the bufotonin is mainly burnt of when smoking due to its low tolerence to heat.... And does 5-meo dmt give you any visual efects?? if so whats it like??
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jccc
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6762540 - 04/08/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Is there any way to convert 5-meo- dmt into straight DMT??
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Infested
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6762635 - 04/08/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats like saying converting psilocin into DMT, not saying that its totally impossible but a total WOMBAT.
Much easier to just go get the real thing.
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: jccc]
#6762924 - 04/08/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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jccc said: Is there any way to convert 5-meo- dmt into straight DMT??
ahahah they are two completely different chemicals neither of which are precursors to eachother. So no
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The Stigma is:
You are potentially harming and frightening a living, breathing animal.
If you want 5-meo-DMT, leave the frogs alone.
I'd rather see you buy it from an RC vendor than potentially harm an animal.
If you want REAL DMT (n,n-DMT) then buy some Mimosa Hostilis and do an extraction.
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: Spire]
#6763328 - 04/08/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spire said: The Stigma is:
You are potentially harming and frightening a living, breathing animal.
If you want 5-meo-DMT, leave the frogs alone.
I'd rather see you buy it from an RC vendor than potentially harm an animal.
If you want REAL DMT (n,n-DMT) then buy some Mimosa Hostilis and do an extraction.
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: indica]
#6764855 - 04/09/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go to the Sonoran desert - in July during a summer thunderstorm. When the rains hit, these guys will be found.
I hear that it's as simple as pissing off the toad, make him shoot that piss onto a piece of glass(like a light bulb broken) - and then you smoke it like crank.
(PS> I don't do crank anymore, this knowledge is from the olden days...)
I'd love to try it. Just waiting for my trip into the desert...
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Re: Toad Venom [Re: roby000]
#6765017 - 04/09/07 12:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago) |
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roby000 said:
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DeathCompany said: Perhaps the idea of milking your pet is odd and scares people away from getting them.
thats the stigma, its not a bad idea, the toads are about 150 dollars i think
for 275$ bouncing bear sells a male and female pair, not bad if your willing to do the work...
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i read in some hallucinogenic magazine (forget name) that some kind of frog or toad (not sure if this is the one) provides the most intense hallucinogenic properties of any psychedilec...
I read about how they have a lot of these frogs in california and what you have to do is like pop the boils on the frogs and let the liquid drain on like a piece of glass...
Then your sposed to like scrape the 'resin' off the glass and smoke it...
In the magazine the guy was saying it was like "being strapped to a rocketship and shot into the sun"... WOW
lol im not sure about all this its been awhile but if the frog you guys are talkin bout is the same... god damn im gettin one lol...
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