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JazzCatCF
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how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic
#6754833 - 04/06/07 04:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I cant seem to get any bigger shrooms than these. After 6 or 7 different tubs They all grow pretty much this size.The thing is I give them to friends,and after they dry it takes about 12 mushrooms to make 5 grams, which is the dose we all take.I had 6 mushrooms that for whatever reason grew big and 6 mushrooms dry weighed out to 5 grams. So how I grow is with coir oatmans tek.12 quart tubs with 1/2 brick coir.nothing added.I just cut 6 holes in top of green house for more fae.Do I need to add coffee to the coir,and or lime.....Any suggestions would be appreciated.I know this has been brought up alot but im just looking for a more personlized answer. thanx [flash=,] [/flash]
Edited by JazzCatCF (04/06/07 04:34 PM)
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Shepx83
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: JazzCatCF]
#6754860 - 04/06/07 04:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pics are dead links for me. It could be your strain, but if you use a different substrate, like Horse Poo, others seem to have bigger and better yields. Im a newb tho, so without seeing your pictures, Its hard to say to help give any extra advice. Hope one of more experienced heads can help. Hope to see some eye candy later. 
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Shepx83]
#6755059 - 04/06/07 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushroom size is related to the moisture content of the substrate. If you want bigger mushrooms, your substrate needs more water. Coir also benefits from the addition of spent coffee grinds and gypsum. RR
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hyphae
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: JazzCatCF]
#6755095 - 04/06/07 05:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mushroom size is also directly related to the number of fruitbodies competing for a determined amount of nutrients.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: hyphae]
#6755103 - 04/06/07 05:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I second that coir and coffee grows some monsters sometimes Coir holds allot of moisture that the mushrooms use to grow
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Blutjager]
#6755294 - 04/06/07 06:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait so you used 1/2 brick of quar for 12 quarts of spawn? Unless I'm reading that wrong that's hardly any coir for that much spawn.
Also, I don't think you let them mature enough. Wait til the veils break. Those look like pins to me.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: BlehMaestro]
#6755298 - 04/06/07 06:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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you also piced a bit early
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Cryogenicz
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: budmanman]
#6755403 - 04/06/07 07:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Another thing that will increase size, is what type of substrate, and the substrain.
Hpoo = more/bigger/potent.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Cryogenicz]
#6755417 - 04/06/07 07:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats for damn sure, ill never use anything but horse shit with a little straw for texture.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Psychoslut]
#6755434 - 04/06/07 07:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hpoo does not equal more potent... Quit spreading misinformation.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6755448 - 04/06/07 07:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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so how would you go about adding more water to a casing? just by misting?
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Grogan]
#6755454 - 04/06/07 07:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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so are you trying to tell me that pf tek shrooms are equal in potency to horse manure grown shrooms?
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Cryogenicz
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Psychoslut]
#6755476 - 04/06/07 07:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not spreading misinformation, Cubes are a dung loving mushroom. They do the BEST on their native food source.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Cryogenicz]
#6755549 - 04/06/07 08:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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IME Poo consistantly puts out the most potent. Size has always varied. P.S. this may very well be multispore related.
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Edited by hyphae (04/07/07 09:31 AM)
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: hyphae]
#6755563 - 04/06/07 08:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am just going on what RR says.. sub strain is what determines potency unless my eyes have deceived me.
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hyphae
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Grogan]
#6755624 - 04/06/07 08:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Grogan said: I am just going on what RR says.. sub strain is what determines potency unless my eyes have deceived me.
True for the most part but not always true. I have many times grown out the exact same sub strain on different substrates with a noticeable difference in potency. P.S. Ok maybe not an exact (pure) sub-strain.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy.
Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE
"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
Edited by hyphae (04/07/07 09:31 AM)
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: hyphae]
#6755768 - 04/06/07 09:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
I have many times grown out the exact same sub strain on different substrates with a noticeable difference in potency.
But I'll bet not repeatedly. I have, and have found absolutely no correlation with potency to substrate. A fact of cubes is their inherent inconsistency in potency. It even varies from flush to flush, and from mushroom to mushroom on a single flush, even with an isolated strain. I've had extremely potent mushrooms from every substrate, and I've had weak mushrooms from every single substrate.
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I'm not spreading misinformation, Cubes are a dung loving mushroom. They do the BEST on their native food source.
Which is not horse manure by the way, although they do well on it.
I'm sure this will still be getting argued about when we're all sitting in our wheelchairs shitting our pants, which actually proves my point. If you could grow them on ONE substrate that would produce extremely potent mushrooms EVERY time, the question would have been settled years ago. However, such is not the case and never has been, so people still waste time arguing about it, instead of doing what does work, such as isolating better strains or growing more potent species, or just eating more. RR
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: hyphae]
#6755775 - 04/06/07 09:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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potency doesnt really matter on substrate reason being i have made clones and grown them on manure,straw,coir.and a mix between all of them and every single one had the same potency.at least didnt vary to a noticeable degree.
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: xaxphaanes]
#6755815 - 04/06/07 09:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you Roger Rabbit! I digest yours and Agar's posts very closely as in my eyes they are very seasoned vets.
RR being very logical, Agar being creative as heck + the right amount of logical = innovation. (I follow Hyphaes pinning strat so props there too! )
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Re: how to get bigger mushrooms?w/ pic [Re: Grogan]
#6755913 - 04/06/07 10:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And me??? I must just be a dumb fuck.
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