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    #6751789 - 04/05/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut] * 1
    #6751828 - 04/05/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

If its "really good acid" then I'd say one or two. If you take one it's going to give you a mild trip and you'll get a precursor to what you're going to experience when you take the other two another time. It will last longer/be more intense if you take more. Except to not sleep for 12 hours or so, maybe less it just usually takes me forever to fall asleep. The next day you might be a little brain fucked but weed always seems to cure that for me. You will come up in about 30-2 hours and your peaks usually around the 4th hour. I hope I helped a little. ENJOY!!! :crazy2:


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut]
    #6751838 - 04/05/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Read info on erowid.org

It can last about 12 hours+.

Take half a tab if it's your first and see how that makes you feel.

If you get a bad trip it could influence your academic performance for months, so nobody can tell you that. It's very variable.

If you've done shrooms, its pretty similar, a bit sharper and longer, but similar to cubensis.

Try not to be alone, have someone positive who understands.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: Drise]
    #6751843 - 04/05/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

dude. i wouldn't take 3 hits if it's your first time. acid is definately not something that you want to jump into like that. and also, don't let them fool you about saying that it's LSD-25 and that that means it's something special. ALL acid is LSD-25. lysergic acid dithelamide-25 is the actual chemical name...the number included.

if i were you, i'd just take 1 hit. but that's me.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6751856 - 04/05/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

what would be the best way to prevent a bad trip...i have an ipod and music always cheers me up and i plan on listening to black moth super rainbow (always bring out good vibes) and what is a good way to take your self out of a bad trip?

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut]
    #6751888 - 04/05/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Just gotta be positive man. Its going to be fun, nothing bad you know. Your out playing in the world.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut]
    #6751889 - 04/05/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

there is no way to take yourself out of a bad trip...that i've ever found anyway. time is your only ally. when you are in a bad trip your mind is stuck and a huge fucking rut...it sucks.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6751918 - 04/05/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I don't agree at all, if you have a sitter who is there they can do a lot to help you out of a tough time. Whatever took you into it they can probably get you to a place where your at least comfortable. Its nice if the sitter is also a psychedelic user so they know what you're going through. Acid is about love for the world and the life you're given.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6751938 - 04/05/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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there is no way to take yourself out of a bad trip...that i've ever found anyway. time is your only ally. when you are in a bad trip your mind is stuck and a huge fucking rut...it sucks.




Of course you can get out of a bad trip.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6751957 - 04/05/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yea....the last time I tripped on shrooms I was going through a really dark phase and my sister came, talked to me and really made me feel better
after that it was all good vibes


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut]
    #6751961 - 04/05/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Nitrous oxide helps turn the tide of a trip. Lots of drugs do, but the great thing about N2O is how short lasting it is. Meditation helps, and even the slightest change in your setting can have a very significant impact on your mood.

Make sure you're comfortable physically. Sometimes you might feel very uncomfortable without being able to put your finger on exactly why, and it ends up being something minor such as needing to piss, or your setting being too cold or too hot.

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mikeytro]
    #6751976 - 04/05/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Yup.
It's about human contact.
No "big bad wolf" would is going to keep one prisoner of the "bad trip land" :lol:


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: Quake3]
    #6751997 - 04/05/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

you have a good point about the N2O...
Even when I'm sober, and having anxiety, I do a whip it and it goes away, even after the effects wear off
(this isnt 100% of the time + I just started doing n2o)

MushroomTrip - indeed it is all about human contact, I find that emotions rub off very easy on others when tripping + they can fluctuate SO much in a short period of time.
this is good, but also bad if around people giving you bad vibes...


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mikeytro]
    #6752020 - 04/05/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Yes... been around people with bad vibes too.
Pretty scary.
But then as much as you fear them as "bad" they become.
So once when tripping wit my friend and she got this really shitty attitude I held her hand even if I felt bad too and then it was OK.
Sometimes we think they're bad vibes when it's only our own incertitude.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #6752060 - 04/05/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

shit...maybe our definitions of a bad trip are different. my definition of a bad trip is when you literally "go crazy"...i had a friend that started chewing on the corners of the walls...got naked and started trying to fuck the girls that were around. we had to tie him up and put him into the garage until he came down.

i also had another friend that thought the cops were spying through the tv. well, he broke the tv and poured bleach in the vcr. then his mom called the cops. he got in a fight with them and threw one of them into a fish tank. he ended up going to the hospital in a hog-tie restraint. THERE WAS NO GETTING ANY OF THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR BAD TRIP!!! if those aren't bad trips i don't know what is.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6752088 - 04/05/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You'll have a great time! Good Luck and please tell us how it was!


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6752089 - 04/05/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Sure... if tying him up was the solution...:rolleyes:

I had a friend who wanted to kill himself when he was tripping.
But... he's still alive and well and we didn't need to tie him up.
We just knew what to tell him and he relaxed.
That, of course, implies KNOWING the people you're tripping with so you know what to do with them because, obviously, everybody's different and you need different things to make them stop.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: Ben18]
    #6752091 - 04/05/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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Ben18 said:
You'll have a great time! Good Luck and please tell us how it was!


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6752092 - 04/05/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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there is no way to take yourself out of a bad trip...that i've ever found anyway. time is your only ally. when you are in a bad trip your mind is stuck and a huge fucking rut...it sucks.





i disagree. Three hits may work 3 may not. I'm sure you or the guy taking the acid doesn't know how many mics are on the blotter. I get out of bad trip just by getting really drunk or taking some valium/ativan/xanax. Also going outside, excercise like a walk, nice music and a change of scenery.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6752099 - 04/05/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

getting drunk while tripping?
dont think I would go for that, personally
xanax I could see


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mikeytro]
    #6752163 - 04/05/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

thanks guys.
keep the good advice and vibes coming.
i am sure it will help and make me more confident about trippin

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mindnaut]
    #6752222 - 04/05/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i don't think you understand super coyote. there was no talking to either people. how they were acting out it much different from suicidal thoughts. violent behavior almost always has to be countered with suppressive action. whether it be taking the person to jail or tying them up. how are you going to sit down a naked man who is mumbling jibberish and try to talk to him after he has already sexaully assaulted multiple women?

there is a point when the person is too far gone. talking will not work. when they are in that state (i've been there too) you have NO IDEA that you took acid. if someone were to tell you that you were only under the influence, that statement would fall upon deaf ears. ALL LOGIC IS GONE. they only take pieces of what you say and expound on them to where they relate to absolutely nothing.

i'm in my upper 20's...used to sell lots of acid for about 4 years in the late 90's. i've seen a lot and taken a lot. i could safely say that i've taken more acid than 95% of self-prolaimed "acid heads"...so i know that i know....you know?

the psychosis that acid induces is irreversable...only time reverses it. and i stand by that statement. like i said before. i think our definitions of a bad trip are very different.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6752242 - 04/05/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Well maybe... anyways... tying up a person sound just... WRONG.

Maybe there's something to do though I never confrounted with such a situation so I don't know...


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6752254 - 04/05/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Yea I see what you're saying, I've heard similar bad trips like that...
However I really don't understand how people get violent of sexual on acid, god I'm the opposite, but people have vastly different personalities...
To have no idea you took acid, and acting crazy like that, man thats fucked up
I've never gotten to the point where I didn't know what I've dosed on, however I tripped (mushrooms) with this dude that I'm friends with semi-recently. we ate an 1/8th each, and he WOULD NOT stop saying what did I take man, what did I take
It was hella annoying


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mikeytro]
    #6752665 - 04/05/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

well, when someone is acting that way, tying them up is not WRONG. we should've called the police...but, being the laid back individuals that we were, we just tied him up. choose one: get him arrested, or detain him yourself...the decision is very easy in my opinion.

what would you do?


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6753025 - 04/06/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Last night my gnome got into a bit of a pickle. He got stuck in a mind trap, where his mind was trying to make him forget he took LSD, and that he was never going to be insane. He'd fall into the trap, indulge in the paranoia for 10 seconds maybe, then breifly touch with reality for a split second giving him the breif reminder he was OK. He endup up slowly making it to a desk and writing a couple of 10s of times 'I ate LSD, I will be normal by morning'. After about 10 minutes he was OK and back to his normal tripping state. It's very scary getting that close to a bad trip, I can't imagine actually falling down there. :frown:

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    #6753045 - 04/06/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I have forgotten i have taken drugs quite a few times and it is quite the experience but i have never flipped out and gone mad from it.


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6753500 - 04/06/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, when you feel yourself falling down there it is VERY scary. but once you're there, you're there. so, at that point it's really not scary...you just do really fucked up shit.

however, that is unless you are in what i informally refer to as "chemical induced schizophrenia"...the paranoia is VERY fucking scary. EVERYONE is out to get you, you notice "secret glances" between people. there seems to be a secret agenda everyone else is in on and it's about you. maybe they're trying to kill you, kick your ass or steal your money. who knows. but everyone else is in it and you're not invited. it sucks. there is no way you can talk to someone in this state either because YOU are in on it too. everything you say is a lie or a manipulation in their eyes. damn...


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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6753557 - 04/06/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like these aren't the sort of people that should be doing these things.

I have always had a good time on acid or mushrooms. I have seen people have bad trips, but luckily I was not affected, and I was also able to help bring them back out of it.

I can understand there are instances where that just isn't possible however.

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: mikeytro]
    #6754056 - 04/06/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Be carefule if you are in America and are buying this shit off a "street vendor"...besides that I would recommmend what I do for every drug, take a little first, from their if you enjoy your experience increase in small doses and soon you will find your "sweet spot"

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Re: first time lsd. questions [Re: figment]
    #6754163 - 04/06/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

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however, that is unless you are in what i informally refer to as "chemical induced schizophrenia"...the paranoia is VERY fucking scary. EVERYONE is out to get you, you notice "secret glances" between people. there seems to be a secret agenda everyone else is in on and it's about you. maybe they're trying to kill you, kick your ass or steal your money. who knows. but everyone else is in it and you're not invited. it sucks. there is no way you can talk to someone in this state either because YOU are in on it too. everything you say is a lie or a manipulation in their eyes. damn...




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