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my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL??
    #6743414 - 04/03/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

we'll I have this weekend open to do my first large dose of mushrooms (usually dose 3.5, going for 5.5 this time)
however, I just started reading the psychedelic experience by timothy Leary. It seems that it would really help to achieve a deeper understanding/ enlightenment from the trip if I read through the book first

should I just go for it or wait? I don't know when I'll have another day open to do this in the near future though....


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: mikeytro]
    #6743440 - 04/03/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Do it when it feels right. You want the most out of it as is possible.


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: Phonerothyme]
    #6743537 - 04/03/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i did 8 grams once and let me tell you that was a hell of an experince but i honestly dont remember some parts like i didnt black out there was just soooo much goin on and it hit me so fast, 10 minutes after eatin and stuff was startin to get a red tint to it


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: FunkyPhil]
    #6743572 - 04/03/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Best to go in without expectations (ie: before reading). Maybe read it after to help put some things into context. But, when you go into trips expecting this or that, it takes away more than it adds.


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: kaniz]
    #6743589 - 04/03/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for your perspective!
I totally see what you're saying


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: mikeytro]
    #6743838 - 04/03/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I think those last two posts are right on.

You dont need direction.

"No direction" is as pure as you can get.

Then read some leary, or t mckenna.

I can honestly say that this type of reading would have been interesting to me at all points of my adult life.
It would have been less productive to have read it before what was basically a psychedelic career though.

Thats probably because im a weird guy though, and I thoroughly enjoy reading about things after I have experienced them for myself.

I cant just sit and wait for somthing that someone else has experienced. That shit is against all odds when things are so contrived.

Uncontrived expectations are key, because then you can do anything you want without obstruction.

Leary never really impressed me though I respect his writings, but t mckenna did impress the hell out of me for sure.
Mainly because he and his brother are as far-fetched as I am when probing the psychedelic landscape.

They let it flow in all its weirdness.
They give labels to things that are totally beyond comprehension, and they are good at it.
Its more like an abstract painting than writing

If you dont like T mckenna, you dont jive with his art, and dont jive with the meaning either.
Some people just dont understand that shit.
So its best to read a book when you have thorough experience with whatever it is these nutters are talking about.

Know how complex you can be when on psychedelics or at any other time.

The psychedelics will bring you out of your present confines.
Where you go has little to do with what you have read.


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: yageman]
    #6743860 - 04/03/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

nice, thanks for the advise man
I read the archaic revival my TM, and thats it.  It was mediocre in my opinion...

well it looks like I will be doing the sensory deprivation this fri/sat :cool:
cant waittttt
just gotta get the damn roommate out of the apt for the night lol


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: mikeytro]
    #6746485 - 04/04/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

the reading material wll make much more sense after your experience.

And may answer some questions.


/just remeber set/setting


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: kija]
    #6748099 - 04/04/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Trips are like music:

If you are waiting for other people to tell you what you're supposed to feel/hear/see/experience, you're missing the entire point.

Explore your own consciousness... not someone elses.

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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: coAsTal]
    #6748195 - 04/04/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Some of what's in that book is good, but a lot of it just needlessly complicates a trip. Don't try to recognise different bardo stages when you're tripping, just go with the experience.


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #6748218 - 04/04/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm only on page 40 or something but he goes into all these stages, how you bob in out out of then while tripping, and the time periods of the phases....way too technical for me, like you said just go with the flow
however, the larger concepts discussed I'm enjoying...


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL?? [Re: mikeytro]
    #6748276 - 04/04/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

lock yourself in a room

mushrooms and PE by TL, read

don't come out for 18 hours


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL?? [Re: Nashbar]
    #6748301 - 04/04/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I never attempted to read on psychedelics, except for captions for a movie while I was coming down...


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL?? [Re: mikeytro]
    #6748417 - 04/04/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Dont worry about what anyone says, including leary.

You may find synchronicity like the mckenna bros. might talk about, or you may find the 8 circuits of consciousness that the good old leary might have talked about here and there.

8 by 8, the double helix(64 codons), the unification of the big and small, the mind and god.............etc etc.

They were all talking about synchronicity at heart.


Have fun finding it on your own.
Its a shame that reading such great psychedelic writing can actually hinder the psychedelic experience.

Its a sort of paradox.

One could assume that if you know more about what you are putting your mind through you will get there faster.

This is very seriously not the case though.
You are breaking the rules when you expect a book to show you the way. Same goes with shamans and the like, though they are still useful in many ways(like a book).

I took a trip to peru when only 18 and experienced ayahuasca.
I didnt want that shaman to say anything to me and have it translated by a gringo.
I already knew what he was saying for me, and more.

His whistling was gorgious, but I was the only person in control of my experience beyond the sounds made by the maker.

Icaros are a hell of a thing.

Its all bullshit until you make it real by yourself.

Most of the craziest shit you have read is artistic, metaphorical, and hardly bullshit.

These guys are not normal writers, and they are playing with the minds of possibly millions of people.

They do offer some common ground.
You need to find it on your own and no amount of psychedelic reads is going to get you any closer to a set of "breakthroughs" that fall upon eachother until death.


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Re: my first high dose mushrooms trip, should I wait after reading the psychedelic experience by TL? [Re: kaniz]
    #6748689 - 04/04/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Best to go in without expectations (ie: before reading). Maybe read it after to help put some things into context. But, when you go into trips expecting this or that, it takes away more than it adds.




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