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maglight
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Slow spawing with coir?
#6742618 - 04/03/07 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I tried spawning my BRF cakes to coir. I crumbled the cakes, and would mix a 1/2 jar full of coir for each 1/2 cake (a 1:1 ratio). I hydrated the coir with boiling water, and waited several hours before adding the crumbled cakes. It would not drip if I held a handful of it, but it would let out a lot of water if i squeezed it, almost squirting out (is that too much water?) To crumble the cakes, I put them in a plastic bag and just crushed them and broke them apart by hand. I tried dunking 5 of them, and did the other 3 without dunking.
It's been 7 days since putting the first 3 crumbled cakes in the coir, and I have no growth at all on that one. No contams or anything, but none of the BRF chunks seem to have grown/spawned to the coir at all.
Any idea what's wrong here?
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6742647 - 04/03/07 03:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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iv never squeezed my coir I just use 1 gallon of water per brick.
-------------------- Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6742651 - 04/03/07 03:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Since I was only doing 8 jars, I didn't see the sense in using the whole brick, so I just broke off some smaller pieces and hydrated those.
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6742696 - 04/03/07 03:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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8 1/2 pint jars is enough for a whole brick
-------------------- Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.
And I am mentally unstable.
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Akira
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6742734 - 04/03/07 03:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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If nothing has happened in 7 days you have a problem, it should have finished colonizng by now, specialy coir.
Your problem was:
When you grab a handful you want to squeeze and only have a few tiny drops of water come out....
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It would not drip if I held a handful of it, but it would let out a lot of water if i squeezed it, almost squirting out (is that too much water?)
sorry, looks like your going to have to try again. Live and learn eh?
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6742737 - 04/03/07 03:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I couldn't find enough information on what ratio to use, so I just played it safe and did 1:1. Since it's primarily for personal use, I'd prefer speed over a higher yield.
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: Akira]
#6742739 - 04/03/07 03:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any chance I can still save this?
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6742743 - 04/03/07 03:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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a coir brick goes for 5 dolla wich is an near insignificant amount of money for what u will get so why didnt u just go with the sure fire 1 gallon of water to 1 brick, then what ever u didnt need just throw away.
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And I am mentally unstable.
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Akira
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6742754 - 04/03/07 03:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont think you can dehydrate it if you already added your spawn to it, I would say it's too late...
Remember next time though, you want to be able to squeeze your substrate and only have a few tiny drops of water come out.
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."
We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: Akira]
#6742801 - 04/03/07 03:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I tried squeezing the water out of one of them (I have 3 small tupperware containers), and I'll try sifting out the coir with these next two with some 1/4" mesh screen. Might as well try...
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6743207 - 04/03/07 05:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, the sifting seemed to go alright, I'm left with the decent-sized chunks of the BRF cakes. I'll try spraying the crumbled cakes with H2O2, and covering it in new, less moist coir.
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Akira
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6743272 - 04/03/07 05:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good luck..
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."
We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: Akira]
#6743814 - 04/03/07 08:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i cant belive u wont just start over it will be much easyer
-------------------- Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.
And I am mentally unstable.
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6744033 - 04/03/07 08:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And time consuming?
Are you actually going to give me any useful information or are you just criticize me?
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: maglight]
#6744266 - 04/03/07 09:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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you have absolutely no idea how useful that really is.
-------------------- Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.
And I am mentally unstable.
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6744304 - 04/03/07 10:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
budmanman said: you have absolutely no idea how useful that really is.
Agreed Sometimes the correct answer is not always the one we want to hear,that does not make it any less useful
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budmanman
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: Blutjager]
#6744381 - 04/03/07 10:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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it is very clear that he is far into deep now he has manhandled it it has sat in far to moist of conditions all I see is contamination from here.
-------------------- Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.
And I am mentally unstable.
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maglight
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Re: Slow spawing with coir? [Re: budmanman]
#6750833 - 04/05/07 02:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I should have mentioned that only 3 of the crumbled cakes were in coir for 7 days.
The other 5 (2 in one container, 3 in another) were only in for probably 20 hours, and after sifting out the coir and letting them sit for 2 days to hopefully re-establish themselves as king of the tupperware container. But what do you know? They are doing just fine, with a nice, white fuzz growing on the chunks and the bits of coir left in there (I did a good hour of research, and it's definately mycelium, not cobweb), and I just added new, dry coir today.
But the 3 cakes worth that were in for 7 days are indeed fucked. I'll put the remains out by the compost pile in my yard. Not that I expect much, especially living in the cold north, but hey, it cant hurt.
I also started a liquid culture today, and as soon as thats ready, I'll get a few grain jars going.
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