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Offlinedeepr
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fresh air
    #674066 - 06/12/02 01:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hmm Ive been hangin out for the season around here, almost putting everything else on hold, waiting for a trip to give me a glimpse of epiphany that would show me the truth about my clouded current view of life, i know that this isnt the way to go about living constructively, but i am restless, and alas it had not happened yet...

irritated i decided to get on my bike and went exploring, crystal clear night, just cold enough and went riding around the park around the museum near where i live... i was coasting down this long drive with trees around when suddenly everything went slow motion, i was transported back to happier times in my youth surrounded with new things and excitement of the unknown, running around the trees... it was beautiful... this park was where a few 'firsts' happened & i realised that i loved nostalgia about my life, that everything, even if it was boring at the time was glossed up and seen through rose tinted lenses when examined at a later date... some have theories for this, that it is a built in anti-suicide reaction, just to reassure ourselves that our lives are not too shit, and not to pack it in because aren't we havin a great time really...
i wish i could view current experiences like that all the time, that is why drugs come in handy i suppose.. but theres nothing like that pure enjoyment of reliving the success of ones life or possible dreams.. i thought to myself why am i always discontent with the present? even when everything is going my way, when other people are fully content around me, im always looking for something else, something that isnt even there, a netherworld relived every so often in my dreams..

I thought long and hard about this and realised that my happiest moments are when i take charge of my life and change it for the better, 'change your life in a heart beat' as the saying goes.... when i do new things, and push myself forward, i get benefits, to be lazy and complacent is evil... i love it when you find yourself doing the most crazy shit when you let fate guide you...

for some reason, my sense of smell came back as well... whats the deal with our crap sense of smell, such big noses yet such poor olfactory response, i think it was walton who said that we can only smell the sweet stench of decay...
certain smells can trigger intense feelings of euphoric nostalgia in me....I know im quite a visual person, and we probably also lose our de-evolved sense of smell through habituation, in the same way that we selectively view only what is necessary in day to day livin, and are then totally overwhelmed with visual information when trippn

i underestimated the power and happiness of reaching direct inner consciousness through peacefulness, it is a lot more subtle but pure. i think ill be taking these late night bike rides more often ;[]
seyou


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Re: fresh air [Re: deepr]
    #674231 - 06/12/02 06:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Excellent post Deepr,
Very well worded. I have been doing a similar exercise. I will go out back and sit in the yard on the ground. Barefoot of course. then i just sit and watch nature. Bees gathering pollen, birds feeding their young, squirrels eating nuts. It helps to ground me back to the earth. Makes me feel connected to all things. In my daily personal and professional life I am very aloof and shut off. This reminds me that even though a life situation may not be ideal that the world moves on. everyone and everything has a place in the cycle. I havent found my place yet, but I know I will someday. This makes me smile.
Unfortunately it goes away eventually when i am forced to move and rejoin the societal crap like jobs and phone calls and other such nonsense. Someday....
Postalboy


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Re: fresh air [Re: deepr]
    #674551 - 06/12/02 10:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, nice post man. It's funny because I have done that same thing in the past, gone out riding to a nature area, for no other reason than because I was Looking for "something". And that feeling of being discontent with the present as you put it, was very much a part of my life until quite recently. It's strange how this board attracts people of like personalities, not just people with similar interests.


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Re: fresh air [Re: Revelation]
    #674934 - 06/12/02 02:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I believe that an amazing amount of discontent in the human race these days is due to the fact that we have so isolated ourself from nature and the wilderness of earth. We forget that we are just a mere strand in the amazingly intricate web of life. That we are connected to each and every living thing on this planet.
And when we isolate ourselves from the outside world of living things, it leaves a hole in our souls. Look around you. You are surrounded by walls right now. Surrounded by inventions and creations that came from the human mind, not from nature.
We build our houses and our furniture with wood. Wood that was once part of a living tree, but is now dead. We surround ourselves with death.
Nature is life. Nature is beauty and art. It is no wonder that so many of us suffer from depression and other mental illnesses.
Our houses are nothing more than cages; like the cages in which we imprison "lesser" animals for entertainment, educational, and scientific purposes.
I think all of us need to learn what many people have already learned. That we need to get back to our roots. We need to live in nature; with nature. Not separate ourselves from it, and in so doing, destroy it. Here are a couple of my favorite quotes, which I think go along with this topic very well:

"Now I see the secret of the making of the best persons. It is to grow in the open air, and to eat and sleep with the earth." - Walt Whitman

"And forget not that the earth delights to feel your bare feet and the winds long to play with your hair." - Kahlil Gibran

I wish that we could all realize the truth and importance of these statements. Like my sig says, "The soul must be fed, as well as the body, in order to maintain the proper balance essential to good health."
For me, the soul is fed by being outside and being in touch with nature.

-RebelSteve


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Re: fresh air [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #674941 - 06/12/02 02:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So true..I've often thought that isolating ourrselves from the rest of nature impacts us in a much deeper way than most of us realize. Maybe it's just homesickness..


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Re: fresh air [Re: Revelation]
    #674983 - 06/12/02 03:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Homesickness... I like that.
I think it can also be compared to the depression that a child will feel upon separation from its mother. Chief Seattle once said "Teach your children what we have taught our children -- that the earth is our mother." The earth truly is our mother, and I think that we do feel a deep sadness about that fact that we are so isolated from her. Especially since the isolation is self-imposed.
Jane Goodall once observed a young chimpanzee who became lethargic and depressed after the death of its mother. The child was quite capable of taking care of himself, or being cared for my other members of its group. But b/c of the deep depression that it fell into; it eventually just curled up and died. The young chimp lay down and died right beside the body of his dead mother.
Is this what will happen to us? I sometimes worry.

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Re: fresh air [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #675289 - 06/12/02 05:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

words people...
i think that the idea of homesickness is definitely valid.. we have evolved technologically far superior to what we are able to cope with biologically. I never thought that a reason for depression could be so obvious.... to return to nature

as a race we place ourselves so high above the rest of the world. we proclaim from our small stature, we are the most evolved... we are the best and we shall take advantage of everything until there is nothing left... when darwin revealed his theory of natural selection, he turned the world upside down, we were not the keepers of the earth that we thought we were, we were in fact related 99.2% to those bonobos that we kept in the zoo... we used to be them, not long ago.
there are still places where evolution is not even allowed to be taught!

we are not the most evolved, evolution does not work towards a goal in mind, it doesnt work towards brain complexity or perfection... in many areas we are left for dead by our animal colleagues, can we fly, can we smell that someone else has walked past this area in the past week, can we see things in sharp visual acuity a kilometre away? we might be able to string ideas together and carry them out but this gives us NO right to dominate and destroy everything else just because it gets in our way... shouldnt this be telling us something, we are so devoid of foresight, that we will only recognise a problem when it is drastic, apparently 200 years left of life left for the human race isnt drastic at this stage because we as individuals wont be alive at that time...
scientists predict that intelligent lifeforms over the universe would only live for a few thousand years at their peak of knowledge because of the selfish principles governing evolved organisms. I dont believe this though. I think western culture is disgusting and would love to know how some of those ancient civilisations that had their roots firmly grounded in a respect for all living things would have behaved... this is how we could ensure our survival, by living in harmony, we could still grow technologically, and have resources to help us explore our galaxy, at this stage there is going to no use for our wonderful inventions... when will we learn?


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Re: fresh air [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #675826 - 06/12/02 11:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

great post man. "we surround ourselves with death. nauture is life, beauty". i love coming here and reading what I have thougt my entire life so I can realize that this is what I have thought my entire life. I feel I'm being reintroduced to myself, liking what I see more. I go to college in connecticut and spent the last three year stuck in the rut of habit. I never neede my room. so this year I am keepin the three grand room fee and building an underground place to chill. i'm digging into the side of a bank in the wods near where my friend has a place it's actually a nature conserve with deer trails and a little streamdown the way. digging ino the hill i'll wind up threeet underground, below frost line, the framework already in plce undrground courtesy of the wigwam structure of the unerground root system. you could walk pas an unerground drumming session and not even know it. not knowing how to change the crsor from insert to normal amkes his post a sort lived diaster. when i lay on h ground i feel detached, like everythig is passing through me. it feels lik i'm on a water bed, like anyway I move, the earth moves with me, we move as one.


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