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quilto33
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my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!!
#6739159 - 04/02/07 05:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Firsttime cultivator here.So i get these two mycobags like a month ago and they still havent fruited, i intelligently decided to cut one of them open the other day and begin spraying it with water to get it to start fruiting, ended up getting some nice mold on the cake a few days later. This is my surviving uncut(bag) cake. It is B+ on an unknown substarte i bought off eBay. Its been colonizing for approx. 5 weeks in 76 degree temp. and i assume high humidity within the bag.....How do i get this thing to start fruiting?


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Giblet
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: quilto33]
#6739187 - 04/02/07 05:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not to be a prick or anything, But you use the search funtion and read read read instead of asking "HOW DO I GROW MUSHROOMS"
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quilto33
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: Giblet]
#6739207 - 04/02/07 05:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea thanks i havent done that or anything already.....expose to light/ lower temp. are the 2 anwsers i always get.....temps are suggested to go 10 degress lower 66??? not gonna work., and its really hard for me to get them any natural sunlight throughout the day....so what do i do next
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: quilto33]
#6739258 - 04/02/07 05:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree wil Giblet, but try giving them air inside a sterile environment such as a glovebox so the myc completes spreading which it needs to do before pinning, or if not possible just wait a little longer to see if it pins on its own. Air could be the main problem, temp isnt that important to trigger pinning, it'll happen even at that temp. Light doesnt matter much as long as there is SOME light (even unnatural), it will stimulate pinning.
If you dont have a glovebox you could sterilise a plastic bag, clean the insides somehow (solvent/alcohol/etc) including the air, and improvise by briefly opening it to put the myco bag inside, open and squeeze the myco bag inside that bag for a bit to get some air, close it and take it out.
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Edited by Jerrico (04/02/07 05:38 PM)
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Giblet
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: quilto33]
#6739278 - 04/02/07 05:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have never used a mycobag so I'm not really sure what to do with them. Considering I'm on my first grow i chose to go with a simpler method so i would not be stuck asking these kinds of questions :P
good luck
Also i got tons of hits by typing "fruiting mycobag" in the search...
Edited by Giblet (04/02/07 05:39 PM)
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: quilto33]
#6739280 - 04/02/07 05:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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FAE = fresh air exchange.
Remove fully colonized substrate from bag. Place the substrate lump on a grate over a damp perlite tray. Inside a tote/tub/terrarium. Give it LOTS of FAE. 12/12 off/on light cycle. Normal room temps (72F) Mist as needed.
No need to add or cover with any casing. (as substrate lumps are hard to cover) It should form pins, shortly.
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: agar]
#6739315 - 04/02/07 05:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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And make sure it is 100000% colonized. Someone here just jumped the gun a bit with a spawn/sub bag and got green nasties. Bright white all over!
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Giblet
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: MasFina]
#6739343 - 04/02/07 05:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
MasFina said: And make sure it is 100000% colonized. Someone here just jumped the gun a bit with a spawn/sub bag and got green nasties. Bright white all over!
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quilto33
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: MasFina]
#6739357 - 04/02/07 05:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks all good suggestions!
But has anyone read/ know anything about invitro pinning&fruting , wherein the cake is never removed from the bag and u just get flushes in the bag? Is this possible with my bag?
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: MasFina]
#6739362 - 04/02/07 05:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I should have emphasized FULLY COLONIZED more.
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Re: my mycobag after 1 month w/ pics!!! [Re: quilto33]
#6739473 - 04/02/07 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes. just block light from the sides so all your fruits grow on top. read monstermitch's bulk technique in his journal for an overview of the whole process.
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sPiKE209
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Just Qurious... [Re: MasFina]
#6763388 - 04/08/07 11:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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So what's the verdict with the 2 bags? I'm a 1st time grower too and they are B+ in mycobags as well. Me though like an idiot got confused with all the different info i cut open the bag after mold started to form. Someone said it was better to make sure they had burst of fresh air and to be misted. Then I re-sealed it and shook it up to colonize more. Let me know cuz I want to get really good at growing these things!!!
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sPiKE209
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Re: Just Qurious... [Re: quilto33]
#6763418 - 04/08/07 11:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry that was actually directed at Quitto
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Re: Just Qurious... [Re: sPiKE209]
#6765046 - 04/09/07 12:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, I agree 100% with Agar. I think attempting an invitro fruit is not going to be nearly as successful as pulling the spawn from the bag and dropping it in a proper terrarium once you reach 110% mycelium.
I've seen the ads on eBay. They show a bag with a ton of shrooms growing in or out of it through slits. And yes, this is a practice used by some, and yes, it can work. But you've got some strikes against you, being green (novice and contaminated.
I actually purchased the same bag as you did, I'm pretty sure. Did it have a self-healing injection port, or just the filter patch?
I dumped 6cc of Golden Teacher spores in mine, then cased the giant block of spawn in 50/50 casing with a touch of manure. This was my second grow, and so far the results are incredible. FAT A$$ shrooms, huge flushes....I'll never go back Spawn bags to casing is my fave. method, bar none.
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sPiKE209
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Re: Just Curious... [Re: brodus24]
#6767959 - 04/09/07 10:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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So what your sayin is that after the bag is nothin but white fuzzy mycelium you take it out, put it in a container then comes the casing and fuckin big ole fatties? I got the B+ strain for me and some friends. We wanna trip and keep the shroomies growing big and fat!
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Re: Just Curious... [Re: sPiKE209]
#6768007 - 04/09/07 10:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/5101/Getting-Started
read a lot while you wait for full colonization plus some then read some more. the site is pretty self explanatory. and for future reference vendors on this site are the best way to go.
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one of these was an LC
Which do you think it was?
deformedreality said:
.. besides the dead body of that pig i hid under the perlite.. he was snooping around too much ;]
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sPiKE209
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Re: Just Curious... [Re: quilto33]
#6768044 - 04/09/07 11:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Eventually I plan on getting good enough to tackle amanita muscaria! That would be the fucking shit!
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sPiKE209
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Trust me I've been fuckin studying my head off. I would say the one to the far left right? You mean it was from a myco bag?
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Giblet
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Re: Just Curious... [Re: sPiKE209]
#6768750 - 04/10/07 05:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amanita Muscaria only grows in association with roots of certain trees, So basically its impossible to cultivate them indoors like you would cubes.
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Re: Just Curious... [Re: Giblet]
#6769568 - 04/10/07 10:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spike, those jars that you see are functioning just like your spawn bag. They are not fruiting chambers.
BTW:manita is also legal and easily found if you know where to look 
I've found patches in Michigan so large you could fill garbage bags with them.
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