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Psilocybe cubensis "F+" on horse manure
    #673875 - 06/11/02 09:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I spawned this a few days ago w/ 3/4 quart of F+ (formerly known as Un Id) colonised bird seed. I weighed it on my bathroom scale to about 6 lbs including container.


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Re: F+ on Horse Shizznit [Re: Joshua]
    #673877 - 06/11/02 09:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hard to see


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Re: F+ on Horse Shizznit [Re: Joshua]
    #673879 - 06/11/02 09:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

6/11







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Re: F+ on Horse Shizznit [Re: Roadkill]
    #673890 - 06/11/02 10:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Damn Road, your fast.

There is a problem in the scripting for editing posts. When I try to edit the date in the title of my posts it causes the image tags to only appear at the first and last image address?. So if I have more than one pic it messes with all of the pics between.

So I just am seperating the pics from the original post to avoid this problem in the future. You just caught me between my posts.

I?ll forward this on to Ripper.

6/11

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what is going on in this tank? [Re: Joshua]
    #673897 - 06/11/02 10:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



Joshua,

I can?t see what is going on in this tank at all. Condensation on the saran wrap is blocking my view. What stage is this at? Incubation?

Appreciatively,

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Re: Floriduh White on horse poo poo [Re: di11rod]
    #673902 - 06/11/02 10:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

he?s colonizing his poo.....would be my guess.
since the plastic is still on.

yeah Josh I?m faster than a speeding bullet.....lolz
they are looking good!
your gonna get some big ones!

good luck!


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Re: what is going on in this tank? [Re: di11rod]
    #673923 - 06/11/02 10:25 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The container is my casing container. I spawned horse dung w/ bird seed and am awaiting full colonisation. Once I have complete colonisation I will case it and place it in my fruiting chamber. I left the saran wrap on because I have had bad luck with contams from opening my projects too much. I wish I could offer a better pic, but I want this to work too bad to let any contams a chance to get in. I will post better pics later on as the casing layer colonises.

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not to ask a retarded question, but... [Re: Joshua]
    #673957 - 06/11/02 10:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Joshua,

When you say you spawned the poo with birdseed, does that mean you colonized a jar of birdseed and then mixed it with your poo in this container? How much birdseed to how much poo?

sorry for the retarded questions. Just interested in trying manure....

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oh shit.. i see now.. [Re: di11rod]
    #673959 - 06/11/02 10:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I see in your first post you said 3/4 quart birdseed against about six pounds of poo.. nevermind.

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Re: oh shit.. i see now.. [Re: di11rod]
    #673979 - 06/11/02 11:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

When it comes to spawn...the more the merrier. Always add as much spawn as possible untill you get an eye for the correct ammount. Bird seed also goes further than other grains, meaning you need less of it.

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Re: oh shit.. i see now.. [Re: Joshua]
    #674273 - 06/12/02 07:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Joshua,

Have you ever tried the ground up PF cake idea for spawn?

The reason I ask is because 4.5 days ago I innoculated a big tub of pasteurized horse poo with 4 ground up Cambodian PF cakes and I have nowhere near as much growth as you have from birdseed spawn.

I pasteurized at 160-170 for about 45 mins.

I figured my poo would be nearly colonized by now because it was almost completely covered in pf cake "powder". It?s kinda frustrating to see you with that much growth from birdseed spawn. I?ve never tried the strain you?re using though.

There is a slight ammonia smell coming from my poo that I did not notice when I first put it in there. It looks like it?s stalling out for some reason. I have a black plastic garbage bag with holes in it covering the poo now.

Can you or anyone else let me know if there?s something wrong here? This is my first time with horse poo and I followed the tek that Roadkill posted perfectly.

Any comments from you or anyone else are very much appreciated...


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PF cake spawn [Re: bassplayer74]
    #674291 - 06/12/02 07:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have used PF cake spawn. I usually break the cake up in a baggie. I break it into dime sized pieces. It sounds like you may have blended it a bit too much.

Was your dung wet when you pastuerised it? How long did you let it drain for?

The ammonia smell is definately a bad sign.

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Re: PF cake spawn [Re: Joshua]
    #674302 - 06/12/02 07:44 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Can it be blended too much? I just blended it till it was all "powdered". No chunks left.

I pasteurized it in a pillowcase in a big pot of water. About 170 for 45 mins.

I let it drain overnight and squeezed any excess water off before I innoculated. It was pretty moist though. Whats better, a little on the moist side or a little on the dry side? I could do some more and let it dry more this time.

I also have a few jars of birdseed that I may try too. I just thought blending a pf cake would be better because there would be so many more innoculation points.

Thanks for your time. Any more comments/ideas would be great!


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    #674344 - 06/12/02 08:20 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: PF cake spawn [Re: vatoloco]
    #674363 - 06/12/02 08:31 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks Vat...I blended it up too much I guess....I powderized it. My tub does show growth though ..oh well....Im pasteurizing more now I will do as Im told with this batch.

My dung was almost all dry beforehand. Maybe a few small pieces were a little gooey still.

I also used straight tap water. Could this possibly be the problem. I know the tek says it may but can someone please tell me what could be in tap water to cause the mycelium to not want to colonize? Or I should say, start to colonize and then stall out. Weird. I was really hoping that the mycelium would tear through this stuff.

If it helps any, last Christmas time I tried bulk growing with straw and had the exact same thing happen. It would start to colonize and after a couple days it would stall out and even start to disappear a bit....

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Re: PF cake spawn [Re: bassplayer74]
    #674370 - 06/12/02 08:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Vatoloco covered what I was going to say. If you blend the cake up too much, you destroy a very large portion of mycelial cells. It could take a while for the mycelium to recover. I can?t even get my cakes to blend. They are much too sticky and wont settle to the bottom of my blender, that is why I use the baggie method.

The idea is to create the most # of innoculation points, you are right in that manner. I believe it is equally important to have a strong base of colonised nutrients to work with as well. I think the mycelium will advance faster if it already has substrate that it is digesting, instead of it having to extract nutrients on the way. So in that manner there is a limit to the size of spawn particles to be used to obtain optimal results.

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Re: PF cake spawn [Re: Joshua]
    #674381 - 06/12/02 08:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That F+ strains looks great. I cant wait to try it out. This summer is going to be grand!


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Re: PF cake spawn [Re: Joshua]
    #674623 - 06/12/02 11:19 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Actually... blending a cake to powder is no big deal.. it does increase the number of innoculation points true... it also probably destroys lots of mycelial cells as mentioned... but if you grind a couple of cakes to powder and pour them in a casing tray.. it will be fully colonized in 24-36 hours in the right conditions.

Therefore.. I surmise that it really doesn?t do that much damage.

This method has been used to spawn rye straw at a rate of 1/2 pint per square foot of space (1" thick) and full colonization was achieved within a week. So it does work well for some people.



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Re: F+ on Horse Shizznit [Re: Joshua]
    #676168 - 06/13/02 08:32 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

F+ lookin good joshua! I?m also going to comment on that washing machine. Very good indeed, I own the same one. Good work.


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Re: F+ on Horse Shizznit [Re: goolag]
    #677182 - 06/13/02 07:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I just cased the F+ colonised horse shizznit w/ 50/50 + mix to about 1 inch. The casing mix was made from 50% coir/50% vermiculite w/ about 1/10 part oyster shell added. I microwaved the mix for 3 intervals of 10 minutes to sterilise it. One interval might have been just as well, but I don?t take chances w/ contams anymore. After the casing was applied I applied a 1.5% peroxide sol?n by misting. Now I will clean my fruiting chamber in preparation for fruiting. As this strain has overlayed quite well in the past, I will be placing it into the fruiting chamber very soon.

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