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RogerRabbit
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731708 - 03/31/07 12:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tooly said: I've read that tek a million times and still it says nothing on WHAT to load them with
Load 5 half-pint jars with one cup brf, one cup water, and two cups verm. Top off each of the 5 jars with dry verm. RR
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6731750 - 03/31/07 01:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude no offense but you keep on asking a bunch of questions that make it abvious that you are not reading anything on your own. You couyldnt have read a moillion teks cause then you wouldnt be asking the questions you are asking...
simple procedure:
- Inoculate spawn bags with spore syringes. - Let incubate for about 2 weeks or untill bags are fully colonized (all white). - Pasteurize your poo if not already pasteurized. - Add your already colonized spawn bags to your pasteurized poo and let sit in incubation for another week or twoo or untill poo is fully colonized - Move poo to fruiting chamber..
You don't need the rye flour, brf, wbs, flax seed and vermiculite if you do it this way..
Vuala...Easy as that.. For all the other specifics (sterile teks, etc) you need to read around.......
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Akira]
#6731784 - 03/31/07 01:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have a tek on my computer right now in adobe format that suggest using straw with yeast extract and brf
If straw will colonize with brf and yeast, I figured it'd work with h/poo
Sry
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Akira
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731799 - 03/31/07 01:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your going to find a millions teks that all say different things.
Point is you already have poo, spawn bags and syringes, plus your a newbee and I would think you want to try the easiest route.. Forget the yeast, forget the pf, forget the brf, forget the straw.
All you need is syringes, the spawn bags, and the poo... Easy as that...
From here you do what you want. But im almost positive everyone here will agree with what im telling you..
simple procedure:
- Inoculate spawn bags with spore syringes. - Let incubate for about 2 weeks or untill bags are fully colonized (all white). - Pasteurize your poo if not already pasteurized. - Add your already colonized spawn bags to your pasteurized poo and let sit in incubation for another week or twoo or untill poo is fully colonized - Move poo to fruiting chamber..
Can't get any easier than that. Any further complications are on your part. You do what you wish..
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."
We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
Edited by Akira (03/31/07 01:27 PM)
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Akira]
#6731814 - 03/31/07 01:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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just cause I'm a new member doesnt mean I'm a noob
and spore inoculation to straight poo rarely works from what I've read
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731834 - 03/31/07 01:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tooly said: just cause I'm a new member doesnt mean I'm a noob
and spore inoculation to straight poo rarely works from what I've read
>>spore inoculation to straight poo rarely works<<
^^RIGHT^^
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Akira]
#6731841 - 03/31/07 01:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude no offense but you make it obvious that you are not reading anything on your own.
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Akira
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731843 - 03/31/07 01:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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What do your spawn bags have in them?
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."
We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Akira]
#6731856 - 03/31/07 01:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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they are empty and I would like to fill them 
but nobody has any faith that grain added to h/poo will result positively
Like I said if straw will colonize with yeast extract and grains with a simple spore inoculation (I have pictures of it working) why the hell wouldnt that work for poo?!
I mean it has everything it need right there nutes from grains, extra nutrition from brewers yeast and poo
What's the problem?
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731867 - 03/31/07 01:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I thought you meant you had spawn bags with grain, compost, or something in them ready to inoculate..
I guess just read one of the mnay spawn bag teks they posted and figure out a method you want to use. I personaly just use WBS jars, and then spawn that to poo, very cheap and effective,..
Good luck..
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"Our intention is our eternal fingerprint in the universe."
We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
Edited by Akira (03/31/07 01:46 PM)
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Akira]
#6731873 - 03/31/07 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have looked my friend and I can not find a damn tek that offers a formula for inncolutaion of a grain poo/straw tek.
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731883 - 03/31/07 01:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shooting spore solution into pasteurized h/poo. Is about like shooting it out a window. Those spores have to contend & compete with other microbes. The other microbes, most often prevail. Because the other microbes are alive & eating/growing. The spores get munched on, before they have a chance to germinate.
Shooting spore solution, into a sterilized grain jar. Differs GREATLY. As the spores DON'T have any competitors.
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6731886 - 03/31/07 01:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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We at the shroomery support experimenting and new ideas, But the method your proposing is just cutting corners . These steps people take are their for a reason, either to help with colonization times or to ward off contamination.
Start with a PF tec method and transfer the colonized jars to the poo. But befor that start reading and paying attention to what your reading. And do be led far from the shroomery, their is alot of bad information out on the net and everything on the shroomery has been prooven to work in someway.
what I picture from your method is slow colonization, and a high rate of contamination. If i wanted some change I wouldnt add grain to Hpoo I would have added small amounts of Hpoo to grain, like people do with coffee to add nutriantes to the PFtec.
Stick with what works as this probley wont.
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Legoulash]
#6731894 - 03/31/07 01:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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"I have looked my friend and I can not find a damn tek that offers a formula for inncolutaion of a grain poo/straw tek."
That is a very good clue as to what your getting yourself into.
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: agar]
#6731916 - 03/31/07 02:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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agar said: Shooting spore solution into pasteurized h/poo. Is about like shooting it out a window. Those spores have to contend & compete with other microbes. The other microbes, most often prevail. Because the other microbes are alive & eating/growing. The spores get munched on, before they have a chance to germinate.
Shooting spore solution, into a sterilized grain jar. Differs GREATLY. As the spores DON'T have any competitors.
I haven't suggested adding spores to pasteurized or sterilized poo
I hate to keep asking questions and not letting this thread die but once more, straw with yeast extract and grains appears to work great
Wouldn't sterilized poo/grain/yeast be MORE nutritious than grains or straw/grains?
Rah you're suggesting slow growth? Any reason you predict this?
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Legoulash]
#6731921 - 03/31/07 02:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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>>That is a very good clue as to what your getting yourself into<<
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: agar]
#6731928 - 03/31/07 02:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I'm sry but..... WHY!?
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Re: requirements for h/poo to colonize with spore inoculation [Re: Tooly]
#6732044 - 03/31/07 03:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: This has gone on long enough. You need to start at page one of this forum and read back every post for 50 pages. That will take about as long as you've spent asking all these questions, and when you're done reading, you'll have an excellent idea of what growing mushrooms is all about, and where to start. Good luck to you! RR
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