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who says bird seed is crap?
    #672676 - 06/11/02 06:53 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

MY buddy did the bluehoney method with hartz parakeet seed with no bird-kote then mixed 2cups seed with one cup verm and innoced.

In 4-5 days QT jars are 85% colonized...Hows that for fast!


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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: ]
    #672757 - 06/11/02 08:08 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I use seed al the time. I go with hte pennington brand, and have had good results too.


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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: powderfinger]
    #672858 - 06/11/02 09:36 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

same here, i have over 4 jars, i innculated some time last week, and they are almost ready to be fruited. i also use pennington brand finch seed, works great.
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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: ]
    #672874 - 06/11/02 09:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

My dog's friend's cousin who saw Ferris pass out at the 31 Flavors last night loves using seed, and would never even think about going back to verm/brf. So with all these pro votes for birdseed, where are the people who say birdseed is crap?



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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: frank_grimes]
    #672886 - 06/11/02 10:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Bs,rye ,wheat most any whole grains work fineimo.


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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: ]
    #672968 - 06/11/02 11:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nobody said birdseed was crap, did they??

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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #672982 - 06/11/02 11:13 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

yea..i dont feel like finding the posts but ive read many a post saying screw the seed ..

Owell...If your a newb and want something cheap and easy..go With Hartz brand Parakeet with no "bird-kote" also no sunflowers seeds..How simple!

So why do so many people use 1/2 pts when these QT's are just as fast?

Peace

PS...If you want SUPER FAST!!! go with the AC..Man these suckers are rippin it up!!!!


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    #673151 - 06/11/02 01:27 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have not had good success at using pennington's birdseed. I have prepared probably a dozen or so jars of this stuff and had way too many result in stinky mush.

The main problem is that no tek I've found gives an explicit ratio of water to birdseed. Hawk's birdseed tek totally ignores this spec. That tek someone posted a couple weeks ago where he was using QT jars and pouring water in to some randomly-drawn line on the jar likewise seems like a LOT of water. If someone could provide a very explicit formula of water to pennington birdseed mix, then I'll try it again.

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Re: me [Re: di11rod]
    #673196 - 06/11/02 02:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Here's the birdseed tek that my uncle's lawer's bastard son who saw Ferris pass out at the 31 Flavors last night uses. I am not saying he invented this tek, it's just the one he uses.

Boil one gallon of water in a large pot. Once boiling, turn off the burner and add a ten pound bag of the birdseed of your choice. Let birdseed soak for 45 minutes. Add vermiculite to absorb the excess water. mix well and scoop into jars. Cover with ramsey seal and lid, and pressure cook for 50 minutes at 15 psi. Shake jars well when you remove them from the pressure cooker. Wait at least 12 hours before inoculation.

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    #673212 - 06/11/02 02:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

heres the tek my brothers sister cousins,moms dogs,pet ferret used.

Mr.Ferret (we call him froby)..Got 2 cups ****HARTZ PARAKEET SEED*** rinsed in water for a few maybe 5 mins,, then put the 2 cups in a large pan with 3 cups water...Got it? 2cups seed:3cups water...let it simmer for 10 mins or so but dont let it boil..stir often..once the seed has doubled in size and most of the water is gone turn the temp to low and cover with a lid...after say 5-10 mins there should be no more water..then mix the seed with 1 cup verm and fill your QT jars a little over 1/2 way...then PC..Froby lets his jars sit over night then innocs. this will fill about maybe 5qt,s im not sure...so just double your ratios for however many you want..I suggest using the 2cup method to get a feel for it..see how many jars you get...then figure out your own ratios,

no probs..Good luck


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    #673266 - 06/11/02 03:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ive had good luck using "Hawk's Magic formula" It calls for pennington's brand finch seed. It is about 50% of the total substrate mix when complete. I use 1.5 to 1 mineral water to finch seed mix. Bring the water to a boil, add the seed and reduce heat to a simmer for 45 minutes with a lid on. Works well for me and the brf/flax meal/verm added seem to give bigger flushes than just birdseed alone.


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Re: who says bird seed is crap? [Re: ]
    #673376 - 06/11/02 04:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I bought some seed a while back and it has this "Bird Kote" in it. Should this not be Used?


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Re: me [Re: PinkFloyd]
    #673505 - 06/11/02 05:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking about growing Hawk's tech as well, but I have no clue where to get flax seed meal. Where could I get it?


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Re: me [Re: ShroomRider]
    #673523 - 06/11/02 06:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i have gotten it at a health food store and recently saw it at a Dillons (grocery store)


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    #673613 - 06/11/02 06:57 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Albertsons...or any organic grocery store


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Re: me [Re: PinkFloyd]
    #673667 - 06/11/02 07:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Stained blue yes you can use the bs with bird cote but it must be washed off first or soaked off ,i would use a strainer with the seed in it and run the fawcett over it and with clean hands i'd move the seeds around so they are thoroughly cleaned ,otherwise the nasty stuff will gunk up yer seeds and may stall or contam befor full colonisation but yea if you wash it off it works bout as good as any other bs.MEW


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thanks [Re: ]
    #673812 - 06/11/02 09:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

drBella,

thanks for this detailed formula. I'm printing this out and will try it tomorrow!

Frank,

your formula is good, but leaves one part unmeasured- how much vermiculite are you throwing in there to soak up excess water? Could you make a guess as to how much you are throwing in?

appreciatively,

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Re: thanks [Re: di11rod]
    #674048 - 06/12/02 01:15 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

thanks...but the tru thanks goes to bluehoney :P


thanks BlueHoney!


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