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My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww!
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So here's the latest update of my first grow. Really nice pinset, with pins showing only 4 days after initiating pinning. It's only been 1 week of fruiting, and I'm already harvesting. Only problem (a big one now that I let it get out of control) is the day I noticed pins I spotted trich. I tried killing it off with peroxide and alcohol, which seemed to slow it for a few days, but the casing was drying out so I really put some water to it. The water helped the mushrooms grow, but also the trich. Now when I harvest, I notice the mycelium underneath is blue green. To make matters worse, a few caps have been infected with bacterial blight.

I know I should've thrown it out upon first sight of the mean green, but upon seeing the pinset I just couldn't do it. Now I'm cultivating as much trich as mushrooms. So now for the pics:




First 2 pics show the tubs as a whole, notice upper left hand corner, all trich

Third pic I tried to show the bacterial blight, but the couple that definitlely had it I already pulled

Just a closer shot of the right corner

Trich corner

Closer up of the trich invading mushroom growing space

So I know I fucked up by not pulling the whole tub IMMEDIATELY, After all the time I already put in I just couldn't throw it away after seeing the amount of pins I had. But since I'm in this far I'm gonna let it run its course so I can harvest my full first flush.

I guess my question is how bad did I fuck myself for all future grows? Am I wasting my time to even attempt future grows because of the inoculum base present not only in my growing area, but whole living space?

I'm still going to keep trying, but what precautions am I going to have to take in order to be successfully contam free in the future?

If you have to, be harsh I can take constructive criticism, if it means I may be successful later. Don't hold back, let me know how bad I fucked up!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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oh so bitter sweet!

At least you know you're on the right path! You know this already but, work on your sterile technique!!!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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Congratulations!! Let us know the final harvest weight..

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Spirit_Warrior]
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Looking good! Most people do PF cakes for starters.... Congrats Tooth!!!!:thumbup:


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: RowZeZe]
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I wasn't expecting compliments, I was expecting harsh criticism over not throwing it away. Well I'll take 'em. Thanks! I'm pretty excited in spite of...


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: psilog]
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psilog said:
oh so bitter sweet!

At least you know you're on the right path!  You know this already but, work on your sterile technique!!!

:yesnod:

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Blutjager]
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So what do you guys think, is it still possible to continue with future grows, or are the inoculum levels in my house going to be too much?


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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Harvest what you can get.
Then, do dumpster tek with that tray.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: agar]
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Right on, that's the plan! Gonna have to sample this weekend!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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Now I'm cultivating as much trich as mushrooms.


just me but...I wouldn't sample anything that has been around a contam!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: psilog]
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eh, according to others on here it's ok as long as the actual mushroom is not contammed. If they smelled bad, or were obviously rotting... then I wouldn't, but the contams are limited to the sub and casing layers.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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sometimes you can get a stomach ach from shrooms grown near trich. It seems to vary from person to person. My advice to you is find oust air sanitizer and use it on your next grow. Nice job though

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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tooth said:
So what do you guys think, is it still possible to continue with future grows, or are the inoculum levels in my house going to be too much?


What do you mean? Are you asking if you will ever be able to grow in your house again? If that's what you're asking, of course you'll be able to grow again. Just clean and work on your sterile technique. Maybe get a HEPA filter.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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I'm just trying to look out for my fellow shroomerites but... go for it man...I wouldn't risk it myself  :shrug:

I'm curious to know how it goes!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: autographguys]
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autographguys said:
sometimes you can get a stomach ach from shrooms grown near trich. It seems to vary from person to person. My advice to you is find oust air sanitizer and use it on your next grow. Nice job though


I've experienced this as well, and I'm not sure why that is. Mushrooms sharing mycelium with trich do upset my stomach more, even though the mushrooms aren't supposed to transfer anything like toxins through the mycelium.

I noticed it without thinking it over first, also, so it's not the placebo effect, either....

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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looking good man, and dont worry, it happens to the best of us!!! just learn from it!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: autographguys]
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Yeah, they give me a stomach ache a lot of times, but I never knew if they were grown near contams because I would always buy them up until now. Funny thing is I did use oust, I think the problem was how long it took the myc to colonize the coir.

Boatshow- I just heard trich was a mean bitch to get rid of even if you've only had a little.

psilog-thanks for looking out for me

sillycybin- do they upset your stomach to the point you wish you hadn't ingested them, or a little discomfort that goes away? How bad is it?


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: shroomsynergy]
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thanks man!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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tooth said:
sillycybin- do they upset your stomach to the point you wish you hadn't ingested them, or a little discomfort that goes away? How bad is it?


Ehh, it's always worth it because I love tripping. I just know I'm going to have to pay a price, now, if I eat shrooms that have had trich near them. I usually end up having to take a little bathroom break - heh. Gut cramping can be a little tough for a few minutes, but not unbearable.

EDIT: I've noticed if I filter out the fruit material, this does not happen. I do this by simmering/stirring the ground shrooms in water on the stove for 30 minutes, then filtering the water through a coffee filter and discarding the mush. Mix the water with some OJ, and whala.

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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does making tea ever make it better for you? I have definitely had to take bathroom breaks before, and I didn't know who grew them.

Try peaking at bonnaroo and having to use those shitty portapotties before galactic goes on and a big ass parade marches past while you're in one of those sweat boxes in the dark!

Sorry for the nasty description!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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tooth said:
does making tea ever make it better for you?  I have definitely had to take bathroom breaks before, and I didn't know who grew them.


LOL.  Did you see my edit?

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Sorry for the nasty description!


Hahaha.  Well, the fun part is if you're at home, do it in the dark.  The colors get wild when you clench! :dielaughing:

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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Hahaha. Well, the fun part is if you're at home, do it in the dark. The colors get wild when you clench! :dielaughing:


LMFAO!
Saw the edit, my favorite way to make tea is to cut it/grind it in small pieces and brew it in a coffee pot like you would coffee.  Only you use the same water to run through 2-3 times.  I figured this out once when I bought some shrooms that were almost all powder, and couldn't figure out how to ingest them.  Man that was some potent tea!  I've been doing it ever since.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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Yep, there you go - that'll work.

I may have to try that...  I need to get a second coffee pot, though.  My girlfriend will kill me if I run psilocybes through her pot. :biggrin:

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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LOL, we just got a new one yesterday, and my GF said, "well, what are we gonna do with the old one?"
I said "we'll use that one for tea."
She said "but I'd like it if I went to make some coffee and got a slight buzz from it."

I got an old one if you want it.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! with harvest weight [Re: Spirit_Warrior]
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Thanks everyone for the kind replies, total dry harvest was right at 2 oz.
Tested them out on Saturday night. I made 3 grams of tea, drank about 1/3 so initial dose was about 1 gram. Immediately after drinking said tea, I went on a walk with my dog on a nature trail. I walked for a good 2 hours, until it got dark and started raining. Unlike most of the other times, the come up was completely anxiety free, and no stomach ache. The trip was nothing earth shattering, actually was really mild, that's kinda how I like them. Later on I finished the rest of the tea, and it kind of just got me back to where I had been before, for a while longer. No mind fuck at all, very clear headed, probably attributed to the low dose I suppose.

Thanks everyone at the shroomery who has helped me along the way!


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! with harvest weight [Re: tooth]
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Quote:
I said:
On a slightly different note, I had the best trip I've ever had in my life on Saturday evening off of this flush.  4g's sent me into euphoria. :thumbup:


I took this with the simmering/filtering method I described, mixing the shrooms with Lipton diet citrus tea instead of water.  I've never been able to take doses that high without having major stomach issues, but this time I had absolutely none.

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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sweet, too bad about the contam:thumbup:


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: Sillicybin]
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I made mine like I described, in the coffee maker, and also no stomach issues, but my dose was considerably lower.

Glad to hear you had an awesome trip :sunny:


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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It's good to hear you had no problems with the tricky Trich!!!!

you've decided for me...the next trip will be tea :mushroom2:


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: psilog]
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The only time I don't make tea is when I don't have the resources at hand, ie. a coffemaker, or a pot and a stove. However, I need to try the lemon juice shot also.


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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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Nice turn out. Glad you had success minus the trich. I have yet to try it in tea. Enjoy the fun times ahead. :smile:

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Re: My first flush woooohoooo! (with trich) awwwwww! [Re: tooth]
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tooth said:
The only time I don't make tea is when I don't have the resources at hand, ie. a coffemaker, or a pot and a stove. However, I need to try the lemon juice shot also.


I have yet to do the lemon shot as well,but it does not get much easier than tea,I mean warm water and a teabag,does not get much simpler

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