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atomheartmother
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UPDATE Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics
#6722007 - 03/28/07 08:30 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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These things look weird to me, and for the life of me I don’t know what strain they are. Anyone have thoughts or ideas about this? One was from a spore print three years old on paper, passed from one fridge to another, who knows… but that was Amazon I think… then two others, a Blue Meanie and a Brazilian… so I don’t know what these are, except some really deformed shrooms!!
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zathan
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6722026 - 03/28/07 08:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, those are retarded.
Were you heavy on the bleach or lysol?
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6722034 - 03/28/07 08:36 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hahahahah 
Its an exciting NEW STRAIN!
Fishin Worms, available now!
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atomheartmother
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: jaranth]
#6722063 - 03/28/07 08:41 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh gee thanks guys and gals!!! i know, i know!! i think they're a warped form of blue meanie, and aren't they mean look'n! i put these things through hell too, but with love! i did use lysol, wipes, when i whiped the tray before the case.
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atomheartmother
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6722070 - 03/28/07 08:42 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i call it the tray or warped penis's!
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6722078 - 03/28/07 08:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i use lysol too and almost all mine come out like that...i get a bunch of mutants and then a few nice looking ones.
personally, i really dont mind.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6722441 - 03/28/07 10:04 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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this is just retarded
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Roadkill]
#6722492 - 03/28/07 10:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, i havent been doing this for long at all, but lemme say, this is fucking histerical.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: EDll25]
#6722592 - 03/28/07 10:43 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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damn those r without a doubt the ugliest shrooms ive ever seen in my entire life. those dont look retarded they look fuckin gross eeeeewwwwwwwwww
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: EDll25]
#6722593 - 03/28/07 10:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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FWIW, (for what it's worth) I really wouldn't consider a siamese twin to be an indication of a chemical mutation. That's purely based on my own personal experience, but I've gotten several of them without having ever used lysol or bleach during the entire process...
My limited experience led me to believe they were formed when two normally developing pins were over-watered and a droplet of water formed a bridge between the two pins allowing them to grow into a siamese twin instead of one shroom and an abort or two smaller, fully grown shrooms.
The harshest chemical I used was alcohol wipes for sterilization of work areas during various stages and yet, because I'm not always as diligent at fanning as I should be to ensure all wet pins have been air dried, I still get a siamese or two per flush.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: farva86]
#6722608 - 03/28/07 10:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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they should look like this
but they will probably come out like this
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6722612 - 03/28/07 10:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude that is sloppy a hell but ya came through and thats what counts. Better luck next time. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: ATLean]
#6722638 - 03/28/07 10:55 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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they are not done growing yet...
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6722709 - 03/28/07 11:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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budmanman said: they are not done growing yet...
Aren't they? I was under the impression that once the veil begins to tear there is no new cellular growth in the shroom and they only swell by continuing to absorb several times their weight in additional water to help force the cap upward to allow the spores to eject.
Assuming there is some truth to that, and there is some truth that the spores do influence potency to some extent, wouldn't letting them grow past that point only provide more to chew through for the same net effect in terms of desired strength?
In other words, aren't you diluting - for lack of a better term - them out by letting them grow so far past their prime? Although, I suppose if needed to produce as much weight as possible for increased sharing potential, it makes sense to let them keep going.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6722715 - 03/28/07 11:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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funny lookin
luckyspores
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atomheartmother
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: flushme]
#6723556 - 03/29/07 07:50 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awww guys, i'm crying!!! Wait until i post their newest growth... these should be posted as a 'What NOT to Do!'... i'm tempted to go home and take a photo and post it... it's so embarassing!
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: atomheartmother]
#6723955 - 03/29/07 10:18 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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LOL - I can't wait.
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kyleda1kid
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Sillicybin]
#6724005 - 03/29/07 10:30 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have heard that lysol causes mutants in shrooms. seems that way,
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6725291 - 03/29/07 04:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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budmanman said:

they should look like this
but they will probably come out like this
Ive had a tray or two that ugly.There a bitch to clean too
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Blutjager]
#6725316 - 03/29/07 04:21 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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some of mine are coming out like that, i used lysol to clean also. I have two different strains growing right now, one has dark caps and the others all have white caps? any clue what the white caped ones are?
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Darkness55]
#6727164 - 03/30/07 05:34 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Darkness55 said: some of mine are coming out like that, i used lysol to clean also. I have two different strains growing right now, one has dark caps and the others all have white caps? any clue what the white caped ones are?
Too humid, probably. Increase your FAE after misting / the humidifier kicking on...
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6728493 - 03/30/07 02:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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no such thing as to humid
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6728511 - 03/30/07 02:52 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycocurious said:
Too humid, probably. Increase your FAE after misting / the humidifier kicking on...
what is FAE, the caseings are in a big container with perlite, I haven't been spraying them because they were getting water spots on the caps.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Darkness55]
#6728556 - 03/30/07 03:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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FAE-Frequent Air Exchange. Sometimes with a strain a mutant sub-strain can take over from a sporeprint. when this happens because every spore is slightly different genetically. It could also be environmental. spraying lysol, or having too much lysol residue, some bacteria can mutate shrooms.....ect, ect, ect...
...how did the other strains turn out??? if they are all mutant then its environmental. if it's only that strain, it's genetic.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Darkness55]
#6728777 - 03/30/07 04:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Darkness55 said: what is FAE, the caseings are in a big container with perlite, I haven't been spraying them because they were getting water spots on the caps.
I use a pump action wand mister - the kind you'd normally put pesticides in - to mist the mushies and water DOES get on the caps. However, after I get them rather nice and soaked, I've gotten in the habit of taking them out of their chamber and placing them on a table and fanning them from several angles each until all caps no longer had any water drops. Still being damn is fine, but no absolute wetspots.
My primary concern is to make sure each misting gets the casing layer "nearly saturated" and then I fan the shit out of them to remove excess moisture off the caps. Takes more time, more personal interaction but my second flush yielded mushies that weighed in at 20 grams each on a 2" thick substrate - which, AFAIK isn't too damn shabby.
LOL, I love it when you have to cut a cap off to make it fit in the dehydrator and the stem is dead solid and turns instantly blue from the scissors. 
As always, your results may vary... 
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Edited by mycocurious (03/30/07 04:10 PM)
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6728883 - 03/30/07 04:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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budmanman said: no such thing as to humid
Agreed,as long as water is not pooling on the surface humidity is always a good thing
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: Blutjager]
#6730244 - 03/31/07 12:23 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blutjager said:
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budmanman said: no such thing as to humid
Agreed,as long as water is not pooling on the surface humidity is always a good thing
Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell I'm ever going to dedicate this much hands-on attention to them, but I figured it would be more valuable to learn what I'm doing right/wrong MANUALLY before I tried automating the process.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6730339 - 03/31/07 12:50 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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i just dont get it, there isnt to much humidity uhh manually perlitey?
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6730387 - 03/31/07 01:03 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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budmanman said: i just dont get it, there isnt to much humidity uhh manually perlitey?
I think the question your asking me is why I mist so frequently and heavily? 
While the relative humidity of the ambient air within the chamber is important, somewhere along the lines I've read and personally noticed that quality of pinsets formed has a direct relationship with maintaining a steady rate of evaporation off the top of the casing layer.
Don't get me wrong, I allow plenty of natural filtered-air and relative humidity to build up in my chamber through the use of self-ventilated tubs and deep layers of moist perlite. The chamber itself maintains about a 88-91% relative humidity but I'm more concerned about the humidity generated by the casings themselves as they evaporate off...
(my fruiting chamber)
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6730389 - 03/31/07 01:04 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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mine did not evaporate at all as I hold a 99% humidity and get huge harvests,
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6730402 - 03/31/07 01:09 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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budmanman said: mine did not evaporate at all as I hold a 99% humidity and get huge harvests,
lol, ok, I defer to your wisdom dude. I've made no claim to being any sort of expert or overtly knowledgeable resource. I'm just fairly good at regurgitating what I've learned through personal experience and reasonable research and deduction.
I can't even figure out what put you on the defensive yet.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: mycocurious]
#6730418 - 03/31/07 01:15 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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you could get a more even pinset, you dont want that? I jave grown in tubs bins and greenhouses, and the green house stays at 99% and has been the most effective method I have ever used.
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Re: Retarded shrooms by a retard grower with retard pics [Re: budmanman]
#6730898 - 03/31/07 06:38 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have absolutely no doubt that greenhouses and automated systems are the way to go to produce higher yields with less manual labor. I even believe that the post where I said "MANUALLY" that seemed to upset you started off stating there was no way in hell I would ever dedicate this much time to a single grow in the future...
The point I was trying to make was that I am finding it invaluable to learn how to do everything manually this first time in terms of FAE & relative humidity because it seemed easier to be able to find and understand what people meant by a "sweet-spot" of moisture to filtered-air exchange.
Hope I cleared that up because I'm kinda over it...
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