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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Diploid]
    #6726465 - 03/29/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Am i right to assume that people always kill them selves because they are unhappy, or discontent? Or at least theyre the only ones who can be reasoned with. If they want to die because theyre excited to meet god, or something like that, your not going to convince anyone out of it in that case.

What if someone thinks that quality of life is define purely by what you make of it, and that these suicidals are simply not catching on to this? Is this self-righteous? Ill deffinately agree with that, but I also think that everybody should consider and accept that personal happiness might be a matter that can always be achieved through personal wisdom, and that we might just not realize it. Many people believe this, and i think this is their motivation to "help" others. Personally I dont know what i think of this, but i dont think it sounds too out there.

Really, most people who are trying to stop a suicide probably arent at the point where happiness is actually a perspective that they can always assume (although many think this), so maybe these people shouldnt do this. Or maybe they should because the basic concept is correct, even though they havent attained it.

Yea, some people think theyre happy, and theyre obviously just material addicts, or your average idiot, and them convincing you to live because life is good, worth living and so on, is insulting. So happiness isnt always derived from wisdom either. But also i dont think you have to be a Buddha to realize this either. Im certainly not in the position to assume that this is the case, but i think its a valid assumption/perspective.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: daytripper23]
    #6726561 - 03/29/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

Reminds me of the night a few years ago when Brandon Vedas (aka Ripper) killed himself while in the Shroomery IRC channel.

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The Sunday Times
March 25, 2007

ABOUT 100 internet chatroom users who witnessed a British man kill himself online — including some who allegedly incited him to hang himself — were this weekend being traced by detectives to be questioned over their roles in the “cyber suicide”.

Kevin Whitrick, 42, from Telford, Shropshire, killed himself after being goaded in an “insult” chatroom at the Paltalk website. One of the users is claimed to have told him: “F***ing do it. Get on with it.”

The death has highlighted concerns that some internet forums encourage people to take their lives. According to one charity which works to prevent suicide, there have been 17 deaths in the UK since 2001 which involved chatrooms or sites which give advice on suicide methods.

The Home Office is reviewing the laws over the possible prosecution of internet users who “aid, abet, counsel or procure” others to take their own lives. Campaigners want the police to investigate and prosecute those involved in encouraging online suicides.

A West Mercia police spokesman said yesterday that detectives were working with an American internet service provider to identify about 100 people who were in the chatroom when Whitrick killed himself. They will be offered counselling, but police will also want to reconstruct the online dialogue leading up to Whitrick’s death.

It has been claimed that many of those online thought that Whitrick was play-acting. But detectives will want to establish whether any of those involved were seriously inciting the father of two to kill himself.

Whitrick, who used the online name Shyguy_17_1, was filmed by his computer webcam as he prepared to hang himself. He knocked a hole in his ceiling and attached a rope around an exposed joist.

Tim Bennet, a Paltalk user, said: “We were in an insult chatroom where people trade insults and have a go at each other. A couple of people told me what he was planning to do.

“Then Shyguy_17_1 turned his camera on. You could see him smash through the ceiling, then standing on a chair he hung a rope over an uncovered joist and tied it around his neck.

“People were still having a go at him, telling him to get on with it, shouting abuse over their microphones and writing messages — but he did not respond. And then he did it.

“I initially thought that it was a fake, because you couldn’t see his feet, but then his face started turning blue. I felt sick. The mood suddenly changed, everyone was concerned for him and started talking about calling the police and trying to help him.”

Another Paltalk user, who asked not to be identified, said: “I didn’t think it was real. I have known Kevin for over four years; he always went by his user-names of R1 and ShyBoy_17_1, but he told his close friends on the sites his real name.

“I couldn’t believe he was doing this. He was on the screen shouting, ‘I’ve had it, you think I am full of s**t, not this time’. I hoped it was a stunt but I knew it was real.

“Other people were egging him on, telling him to get on with it, but I was just thinking: this is dangerous. One guy who was chatting on his microphone shouted at Kevin, ‘F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For f**k’s sake he can’t even do this properly’.

“Others were talking to him with his old user-name R1 and telling him to stop it. Then all of a sudden it became clear it was not a hoax . . . I watched what happened and felt sick, others were claiming that he was faking it and was still stood on a chair but I knew he was dead.”

According to reports this weekend, as Whitrick died, those in the chatroom realised the seriousness of the situation. One chatroom user is reported to have said: “His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.”

Another contributor added: “Is this real?” Computer users alerted police who traced Whitrick’s address and forced their way into his apartment, but they arrived too late to save him.

Whitrick, who worked for an electrical company in Shrewsbury, was divorced from his wife Paula. The couple had twins, a boy and a girl, aged 12. In a statement, Paula said: “Kevin was a loving father and family man. He was the life and soul of the party and an extremely considerate and kind person. He will be so sadly missed by us all.”

The case raises concerns that many internet users are detached from the impact of what they say online. In a similar death in 2003, Brandon Vedas, a 21-year-old from Phoenix, Arizona, collapsed from a fatal overdose of prescription drugs after he was apparently encouraged to take the drugs by others online.

One user told Vedas: “Eat more . . . that’s not much . . . I wanna see if you survive or you just black out.”

Vedas’s brother Rich said after the death: “These people treat it like somehow it’s not the real world. They forget it’s not just words on a screen.”

In Japan, which has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, there has been a significant increase in suicide pacts arranged via the internet. “Youngsters find that on internet chat sites they can talk about the most intimate of issues with total strangers — including vague notions of wanting to die,” said Mafumi Usui, a psychology professor at Niigata Seiryo University, who has studied the phenomenon.

“Most of them aren’t serious. But say one chat participant starts suggesting concrete plans . . . that’s when the internet can encourage suicide.”

There has also been at least one case in Britain of strangers meeting on the internet and arranging a suicide. Chris Aston, 25, a Manchester University PhD student, and Maria Williams, 42, from southeast London, killed themselves in February 2005 after they met online.

Campaigners want websites giving detailed advice on suicide methods to be shut down. They also want any online users who goad on those considering suicide to be prosecuted.

Paul Kelly, a trustee of Papyrus, the charity which works to prevent suicide in young people, said: “Some of these sites which incite or give advice on suicide are horrifying. They are encouraging vulnerable people to take their own lives.”

Kelly’s own son Simon committed suicide in 2001 after researching methods of death online. Kelly has compiled details of 16 other deaths since 2001 involving the internet.

Following the government’s review of laws in the area, campaigners say they should be up-dated to make it explicit that incitement to commit suicide via websites or online is an offence. The maximum penalty would be 14 years in jail.

Many search engines, such as Google, already ensure there are prominent links to organisations such as the Samaritans when computer users search online under the word “suicide”. But there are concerns that there is no UK organisation which monitors suicide websites and collates complaints.

Web chats before dying

Kevin Whitrick. Died March 21 2007, Shropshire

Shyguy_17_1 (Whitrick): I’ve had it, you think I am full of s***, not this time.

- F****** do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***’s sake he can’t even do this properly.

- Oh my God, this is serious. Someone should call the police.

- His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.

- His face is turning red. OMG (Oh My God).

- Is this real?

Brandon Vedas, 21. Died January 12 2003, Arizona

Ripper (Vedas): Tonight is a (good) night fellas...klono, methadone, restoril, inderal, weed. bottoms up.

- Dude you just drank it. Ripper: Yeah.

- Eat more Ripper: Righty hoe.

- F****** eat it. Ripper: Ripper has perished.

- You’d better not go to sleep

- Breathe

- Man don’t die

timesonline.co.uk


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Diploid]
    #6726596 - 03/29/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 9 months ago)

holy shit, that actually made the news?


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #9006493 - 09/30/08 02:12 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

buddhist are actually one of the only religions where it is ok to committ suicide. but you have to do it not for spite. but for good like to feed a hungry lion. the way in which you leave this life will determine the way in which you will be reborn. thus if your all pissed off you will have a whole nother life that reflects that. and than chances of being born a human again are slim to none. they say it is like a blind turtle that surfaces every hundred years, comming up in the whole ocean inside of a whoola hoop on the surface.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: crovian]
    #9006935 - 09/30/08 07:08 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I think it would be good if a confirmation screen was shown before people reply to an old thread. I might request it actually.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Diploid]
    #9006962 - 09/30/08 07:17 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
Reminds me of the night a few years ago when Brandon Vedas (aka Ripper) killed himself while in the Shroomery IRC channel.

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The Sunday Times
March 25, 2007

ABOUT 100 internet chatroom users who witnessed a British man kill himself online — including some who allegedly incited him to hang himself — were this weekend being traced by detectives to be questioned over their roles in the “cyber suicide”.

Kevin Whitrick, 42, from Telford, Shropshire, killed himself after being goaded in an “insult” chatroom at the Paltalk website. One of the users is claimed to have told him: “F***ing do it. Get on with it.”

The death has highlighted concerns that some internet forums encourage people to take their lives. According to one charity which works to prevent suicide, there have been 17 deaths in the UK since 2001 which involved chatrooms or sites which give advice on suicide methods.

The Home Office is reviewing the laws over the possible prosecution of internet users who “aid, abet, counsel or procure” others to take their own lives. Campaigners want the police to investigate and prosecute those involved in encouraging online suicides.

A West Mercia police spokesman said yesterday that detectives were working with an American internet service provider to identify about 100 people who were in the chatroom when Whitrick killed himself. They will be offered counselling, but police will also want to reconstruct the online dialogue leading up to Whitrick’s death.

It has been claimed that many of those online thought that Whitrick was play-acting. But detectives will want to establish whether any of those involved were seriously inciting the father of two to kill himself.

Whitrick, who used the online name Shyguy_17_1, was filmed by his computer webcam as he prepared to hang himself. He knocked a hole in his ceiling and attached a rope around an exposed joist.

Tim Bennet, a Paltalk user, said: “We were in an insult chatroom where people trade insults and have a go at each other. A couple of people told me what he was planning to do.

“Then Shyguy_17_1 turned his camera on. You could see him smash through the ceiling, then standing on a chair he hung a rope over an uncovered joist and tied it around his neck.

“People were still having a go at him, telling him to get on with it, shouting abuse over their microphones and writing messages — but he did not respond. And then he did it.

“I initially thought that it was a fake, because you couldn’t see his feet, but then his face started turning blue. I felt sick. The mood suddenly changed, everyone was concerned for him and started talking about calling the police and trying to help him.”

Another Paltalk user, who asked not to be identified, said: “I didn’t think it was real. I have known Kevin for over four years; he always went by his user-names of R1 and ShyBoy_17_1, but he told his close friends on the sites his real name.

“I couldn’t believe he was doing this. He was on the screen shouting, ‘I’ve had it, you think I am full of s**t, not this time’. I hoped it was a stunt but I knew it was real.

“Other people were egging him on, telling him to get on with it, but I was just thinking: this is dangerous. One guy who was chatting on his microphone shouted at Kevin, ‘F***ing do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For f**k’s sake he can’t even do this properly’.

“Others were talking to him with his old user-name R1 and telling him to stop it. Then all of a sudden it became clear it was not a hoax . . . I watched what happened and felt sick, others were claiming that he was faking it and was still stood on a chair but I knew he was dead.”

According to reports this weekend, as Whitrick died, those in the chatroom realised the seriousness of the situation. One chatroom user is reported to have said: “His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.”

Another contributor added: “Is this real?” Computer users alerted police who traced Whitrick’s address and forced their way into his apartment, but they arrived too late to save him.

Whitrick, who worked for an electrical company in Shrewsbury, was divorced from his wife Paula. The couple had twins, a boy and a girl, aged 12. In a statement, Paula said: “Kevin was a loving father and family man. He was the life and soul of the party and an extremely considerate and kind person. He will be so sadly missed by us all.”

The case raises concerns that many internet users are detached from the impact of what they say online. In a similar death in 2003, Brandon Vedas, a 21-year-old from Phoenix, Arizona, collapsed from a fatal overdose of prescription drugs after he was apparently encouraged to take the drugs by others online.

One user told Vedas: “Eat more . . . that’s not much . . . I wanna see if you survive or you just black out.”

Vedas’s brother Rich said after the death: “These people treat it like somehow it’s not the real world. They forget it’s not just words on a screen.”

In Japan, which has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, there has been a significant increase in suicide pacts arranged via the internet. “Youngsters find that on internet chat sites they can talk about the most intimate of issues with total strangers — including vague notions of wanting to die,” said Mafumi Usui, a psychology professor at Niigata Seiryo University, who has studied the phenomenon.

“Most of them aren’t serious. But say one chat participant starts suggesting concrete plans . . . that’s when the internet can encourage suicide.”

There has also been at least one case in Britain of strangers meeting on the internet and arranging a suicide. Chris Aston, 25, a Manchester University PhD student, and Maria Williams, 42, from southeast London, killed themselves in February 2005 after they met online.

Campaigners want websites giving detailed advice on suicide methods to be shut down. They also want any online users who goad on those considering suicide to be prosecuted.

Paul Kelly, a trustee of Papyrus, the charity which works to prevent suicide in young people, said: “Some of these sites which incite or give advice on suicide are horrifying. They are encouraging vulnerable people to take their own lives.”

Kelly’s own son Simon committed suicide in 2001 after researching methods of death online. Kelly has compiled details of 16 other deaths since 2001 involving the internet.

Following the government’s review of laws in the area, campaigners say they should be up-dated to make it explicit that incitement to commit suicide via websites or online is an offence. The maximum penalty would be 14 years in jail.

Many search engines, such as Google, already ensure there are prominent links to organisations such as the Samaritans when computer users search online under the word “suicide”. But there are concerns that there is no UK organisation which monitors suicide websites and collates complaints.

Web chats before dying

Kevin Whitrick. Died March 21 2007, Shropshire

Shyguy_17_1 (Whitrick): I’ve had it, you think I am full of s***, not this time.

- F****** do it, get on with it, get it round your neck. For F***’s sake he can’t even do this properly.

- Oh my God, this is serious. Someone should call the police.

- His face is turning purple. This guy is dead.

- His face is turning red. OMG (Oh My God).

- Is this real?

Brandon Vedas, 21. Died January 12 2003, Arizona

Ripper (Vedas): Tonight is a (good) night fellas...klono, methadone, restoril, inderal, weed. bottoms up.

- Dude you just drank it. Ripper: Yeah.

- Eat more Ripper: Righty hoe.

- F****** eat it. Ripper: Ripper has perished.

- You’d better not go to sleep

- Breathe

- Man don’t die

timesonline.co.uk




Have we sunk so low that we can't even be responsible for ourselves and our actions? Nobody made this person do anything. Nobody convinced him to do anything. He choose, for whatever wise or stupid reason to end it. Therefore it's nobodies business but his. Let it go and do your life. We need to weed out the gene pool a little bit better IMO.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: flower_child]
    #9009798 - 09/30/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If somebody wants to kill themselves, let them. It honestly shouldn't affect you in the long run. Sure, you'll be sad for awhile but if anything, it's a courageous move; somebody didn't like the situation they were in, so they took themselves out of it, instead of compromising with it.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #9009978 - 09/30/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I have nothing against suicide.

I have had friends confide in me and I kept my mouth shut.
Did I try and convince them otherwise? You bet.

They didn't end up going through with it but if they did I would respect it.

It's your life and no one else's.No one has the right to tell you you have to continue living.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #9011866 - 10/01/08 02:33 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

> it's a courageous move; somebody didn't like the situation they were in, so they took themselves out of it, instead of compromising with it.

WTF? Since when is giving up more courageous than dealing with your problems? It's the complete opposite of courage, if anything.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #9011941 - 10/01/08 03:03 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

No man is an island.  (Hes a peninsula?)


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: zouden]
    #9012249 - 10/01/08 07:23 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

zouden said:
> it's a courageous move; somebody didn't like the situation they were in, so they took themselves out of it, instead of compromising with it.

WTF? Since when is giving up more courageous than dealing with your problems? It's the complete opposite of courage, if anything.




How is suicide not a way of dealing with your problems? If anything, it's the most effective way.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Boots]
    #9012253 - 10/01/08 07:24 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I like to think of it as our ace in the hole.:thumbup:


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Boots]
    #9012279 - 10/01/08 07:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Boots said:
Quote:

zouden said:
> it's a courageous move; somebody didn't like the situation they were in, so they took themselves out of it, instead of compromising with it.

WTF? Since when is giving up more courageous than dealing with your problems? It's the complete opposite of courage, if anything.




How is suicide not a way of dealing with your problems? If anything, it's the most effective way.



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                                                part of the world belongs to me
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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: zouden]
    #9012281 - 10/01/08 07:38 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

By your standards you mean. I'm glad I don't think this way.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Icelander]
    #9012290 - 10/01/08 07:42 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

But suicide turns your own problems into other peoples' problems. That's why it's so selfish.


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                                                part of the world belongs to me
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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: zouden]
    #9012303 - 10/01/08 07:47 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

People make their own problems by how they think and how they let their emotions run wild without understanding how they come about.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: Icelander]
    #9012353 - 10/01/08 08:07 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

They can make their own problems that way, but having your brother commit suicide can also bring about some problems pretty damn quick, I imagine.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: zouden]
    #9012410 - 10/01/08 08:33 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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zouden said:
But suicide turns your own problems into other peoples' problems. That's why it's so selfish.



:rofl:
Ya and others that dont respect that persons choice, they arnt selfish.:rolleyes:


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: zouden]
    #9012731 - 10/01/08 10:32 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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zouden said:
> it's a courageous move; somebody didn't like the situation they were in, so they took themselves out of it, instead of compromising with it.

WTF? Since when is giving up more courageous than dealing with your problems? It's the complete opposite of courage, if anything.




It's pretty damn courageous to throw off your natural survival instinct in favor of a complete unknown--the person committing suicide is essentially casting their life to the fates for the possibility of never existing again, getting reborn into a lower form of life, or worse yet: burning in the fires of Hell for all of eternity because suicide is a sin.


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Re: What is wrong with suicide? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #9012737 - 10/01/08 10:34 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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YawningAnus said:


why is it considered charitable or noble to "help people" through suicidal times?






Maybe because at the time someone has reached suicidal thoughts theyre severely depressed & some people dont like to see other people depressed.

Some people actually enjoy seeing other people happy, weird huh?


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