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Will this monotub work out?
    #6719505 - 03/28/07 10:00 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I want to try a monotub type method and its my first time attempting it, and I think I need some help/advice to make sure I dont fuck one of the steps up.

My idea is to lay all of the colonized substrate in a tub that i have, put a moist casing layer of 1/3 peat, 1/3 verm and 1/3 coir (I'm unsure about what the moisture level of the casing layer should be) on top of the colonized birdseed and then put a clear trashbag over the tub.

I have a spray bottle to spray the casing layer when it needs it and i have holes in the tub to give it fresh air.

Money is tight right now so I want to make do with what i have and so this sounded like a good idea to me. Please give me some input, especially on how to get started with the colonized substrate and the casing layer.

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719658 - 03/28/07 10:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

could anyone give me some tips so i could get this done before i go to work?


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719666 - 03/28/07 10:45 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i might use saran wrap instead of garbage bag, but otherwise, sounds good. sure garbage bag will be ok. hope that helps a little.

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6719694 - 03/28/07 10:52 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

So all that I need to do for the mono tub is to put the substrate on the bottom, the moist casing on the top and then cover it up. Correct?


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719741 - 03/28/07 11:03 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

that's what i would do, but NE ONE, have better idea, let us know please!

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6719747 - 03/28/07 11:05 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

so, wait. kinda confused, did you already mix your cakes into a casing? you want to kinda break it up into the casing mix, so the mycelium will grow all over, not just one spot.

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: kyleda1kid]
    #6719770 - 03/28/07 11:11 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I wasn't going to use cakes for this. Now I think I understand a little better how to do this. I need to mix all the birdseed substrate i have into the casing mix right?
Then I just let it chill and colonize the substrate


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719778 - 03/28/07 11:13 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

ohh i see, umm not exactly sure sorry, i like cake method,(pf tek) but basically, i think

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719902 - 03/28/07 11:51 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Will someone with a little more knowledge and experience please give some advice?


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719947 - 03/28/07 12:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I believe you wanna make sure you crumble the WBS and spread it evenly as possible throughout the bottom of your mono then to check for field compacity for the casing layer just take a handful of it and squeeze if you get a few drops then this is about the consistency you want, I'd cover the WBS with the casing layer, cover and forget for a few days.. I am new to this so someone may be able to give you some better advice, but since you appear to be in a pinch for time, hopefully this will suffice until you can get some better assistance. If you are unclear just wait until you get the info your looking for, it would be a shame to mess up the hardwork you have put into it thus far. Hope this helps to at least some degree.
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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jash420]
    #6719966 - 03/28/07 12:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Instead of asking everyone to explain the basics of spawning and caseing to a mono- Just do a search for mono/single tubs. There are a lot of them used on here recently and some good grow logs.

Once you do your homework you will find ouit a whole new load of questions you want to ask- people will help you a lot more if they can tell you have done your searches.

Spawn to substrate- wait for it to colonize- then add caseing layer- give it a day or two- then fruit.

Caseing and substrate are different things. Caseing is nto required but you will yeild more, evenly.

You have access to the grow log forum and archive- check out that forum! Goodluck.



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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6719977 - 03/28/07 12:12 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Well a true monotub would involve spawning your wbs to a bulk substrate like horse manure. You'd mix your colonized wbs with the bulk substrate in the tub, then wait for it to colonize. After that is colonized you'd want to apply a casing layer to the top. You would not want to mix your birdseed in with your casing mix.


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: boatshow]
    #6721101 - 03/28/07 04:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

read this:

MM MONOTUB

:grin: :thumbup:


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Edited by themycologist (03/28/07 04:38 PM)

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: themycologist]
    #6731174 - 03/31/07 09:36 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

So would it be ok to put the birdseed in, then put sterilized rye on top of the birdseed, wait for it to colonize, and then put the casing layer on? I dont have any sources to Horse Poo at the moment.


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6731243 - 03/31/07 10:08 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

rye is best colonized in jars or bags and its not recommeded to spawn to it that way -- contam city.  if you don't have any horse poo to spawn the birdseed to, use coir.  read the teks... :thumbup:


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: themycologist]
    #6731346 - 03/31/07 10:44 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

thanks :smile: ive got coir here but last time i tried to use pasteurized coir everything went crazy with contamination.  should i try again at pasteurization or should i just sterilize it?


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #6731369 - 03/31/07 10:50 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

what method of pasteurization did you use?


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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: Psychoslut]
    #6731396 - 03/31/07 10:58 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

Unless putting the bricks of coir in a bucket and pouring hot water on them counts I have never pasteurized or sterilized coir

Just hydrate it and use it as is

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Re: Will this monotub work out? [Re: Psychoslut]
    #6731398 - 03/31/07 10:58 AM (17 years, 2 months ago)

I think you need to read and read and read - it's obvious you are missing a lot of information. Once you read-up, most of your questions will be answered. It will be easier for your to read the teks verses asking 10 questions for every step in the process.


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