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Subbedhunter420
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: coon]
#6716573 - 03/27/07 01:39 PM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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PILLOW FIGHT!!!
but seriously... MJ has a valid point. i had a few foes on my lawn three days ago, the mower came two ago, and today theres a very spread out patch of em all over the lawn. I dont think this is solid proof but it sure seems on the ball.
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georgeM
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: mjshroomer]
#6716629 - 03/27/07 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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"I really do not have to keep repeating myself."
pappa don't pappa don't pappa don't take NOOOOOO MESS!!!!
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CureCat
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: mjshroomer]
#6716860 - 03/27/07 03:22 PM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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mjshroomer said: The addition of fertilizers into the lawns gives the spores more of a chance to germinate.
I really do not have to keep repeating myself.
And I should not have to repeat myself, but I will since you don't seem to understand what I'm asking.
Fertilizer is a different factor than lawn mowing.
I'm asking specifically how mowing a lawn causes spores to germinate that would not otherwise.
I understand how fertilizer helps to propagate the spores. I never asked about fertilizer because I know and understand how it works. I do not understand how lawn mowing supports germination.
I never requested you repeat irrelevent information, you volunteered it. If you cannot answer the question, that is fine.
Don't be rude, I've made my question quite clear.
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Ice House Shaman
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: mjshroomer]
#6717028 - 03/27/07 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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Very nice MJ, like always. My hats off to you.
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cube428
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wow, most interesting MJ ! Curecat I understand the question for the most part.. but I think its already been answered and your making more out of it than there really Is thats just my opinion not trying to be rude
Edited by cube428 (03/27/07 07:30 PM)
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CureCat
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: cube428]
#6717784 - 03/27/07 08:06 PM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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My question:
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CureCat said: Fertilizer is a different factor than lawn mowing.
I'm asking specifically how mowing a lawn causes spores to germinate that would not otherwise.
I understand how fertilizer helps to propagate the spores. I never asked about fertilizer because I know and understand how it works. I do not understand how lawn mowing supports germination.
The answers I have been given:
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mjshroomer said: Liquid fertilizers help propagate this species and its lawn relatives with little ease.
A lawn mower, and I am speaking from experience of watching one company work for a five-year period, know about this method of spread spores.
Many lawns will continue to grow for months with the spreading of spores and then the refertilization of the lawns on a weekly basis.
A lawn mower constantly, on a weekly basis, nurtures the lawns with new growth.
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mjshroomer said: Youi really must have missed my explaining of the spraying of liquid fertilizers each week when they mow the lawn.
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mjshroomer said: The addition of fertilizers into the lawns gives the spores more of a chance to germinate.
I really do not have to keep repeating myself.
The key points which have been explained are:
~fertilizer helps propagate spores. ~a lawn mower nurtures lawns with new growth.
..........Neither explain HOW mowing encourages the propagation of spores.
Lawn mowers and fertilizer are different.
If no one can answer this, that is fine. But I will not believe that lawn mowers (the machine NOT the people who work them) cause spore germination or a noticeable increase in spore dispersal.
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OOISI
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: CureCat]
#6718756 - 03/28/07 12:22 AM (17 years, 5 days ago) |
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Id say the wind wouldnt be as effective as a lawn mower at scattering spores. Im assuming, where the blades rotate is a current of air, like a fans. When the blades hit the mushroom, id say spores would probably explode and circulate, as opposed to falling out and blowing away.
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mjshroomer
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Re: P. stuntzii and P. sierrae in Madrona [Re: OOISI]
#6719192 - 03/28/07 07:36 AM (17 years, 4 days ago) |
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NOrmally, a lawn service provider her eint he PNW such as Evergreen Tree Service, they spray the manure once a week when they mow the lawn. AS I said above, me and friends have picked lawns where over the years we saw this practive repeated on a weekly basis. Lawns which stop the service, the shroom disappear for good after about two to three years. TGIF in Seattle had two long sidewalk lawns. I watch these shrooms bloom for a few years and then one day I noticed a migrant worker mowing the lawn with a mower. The next year there were no more shrooms.
This particular lawn was shown here before by someone I took out and showed it to. They came back while I was in Thailand and wrote a thread here called Stuntzii's on a lawn or something to that effect and then posted the address where this patch was at here at the Shroomery.
Thor Removed it at the time.
This kid promised me he would not bring or show it to anyone. Problem was he lived in Bellevue and this was in North Seattle.
He posted in his thread how I showed him the patch and gave the address. He noted that I was away in Thailand.
What a douche.
Anyway here are a few images from one of 8 small lawns at a condo in Seattle.
And check out their growth parameters.
The first time I found them there were more than ten thousand shrooms on the lawns at one time. This is from year five of growth. The last big patch at that spot in Seattle.
And some dried ones from a single mulch bed in Eugene, Oregon. Gartz picked almost an equal amount of shrooms form this patch. There were more than at least 30 pounds. There is an equal amount o under the drying bed and Gartz' room at the resort was also as spread out as mine was.
WE have seen bigger patches than this.
mj
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