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 Ripple
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 When you have to make it stop 
#669880 - 06/09/02 10:32 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have boasted about never having a bad trip before and how if you have a good sense of yourself and your well being you will be OK. Well all that changed for me today because I had a really bad one on 5 grams of dried PC,s. I was lucky to have Xanax in the house and I took 5 of them, I am just coming down and feeling better. During the trip I couldn’t stop sweating despite having the AC on high. That really added to the downer! Even China Cat didn’t help the experience and usually the Dead really bring me up. Anyway I can't explain what happened and I am hoping some others could shed some light on it ...Like I said this is a first for me and I have trped on LSD over 100 times. This is only my 20th or so trip on mushrooms
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 Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669922 - 06/09/02 11:22 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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How do you make it stop?
You can't, you got to roll with it, go with the flow.
Heaven and hell are both contained in this experience.
What exactly happened that made it bad?
I sweat like a fukka sometimes on shrooms, even when I shiver and am freezing.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#669929 - 06/09/02 11:26 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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that's what I can't explain nothing bad happened...good surroundings and good music. Good state of mind too.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669939 - 06/09/02 11:36 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Then what is the problem/question?
Or didn't you like the 'feel' of it.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669948 - 06/09/02 11:43 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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>that's what I can't explain nothing bad happened...
Nothing bad happened.... but still it was a bad trip?
What did it felt like?
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#669951 - 06/09/02 11:45 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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no i am saying that I was in a good state of mind prior to the trip. I dont know how to explain the bad vibes I felt during the trip but I tried everything ( like playing my favorite Dead songs) but nothing helped me to feel any better.
It was a real bad feeling though never felt that bad before.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669954 - 06/09/02 11:46 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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A couple days ago I had a bad trip, but I kinda liked it...it was like a roller coaster. I remember it was in the 90's and I was cold and shivering. I wanted to put my hoodie on but I thought it might not be a good idea, maybe Ide dehydrate myself or something. I just take myself into a quiet room where everythings still and calm and I just kinda relax and get good vibes. I think to myself Im ok. I call em head checks, you need em every now and then.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Anno]
#669955 - 06/09/02 11:51 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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real hard to put into words ...it was only a few hours ago and it's still fresh in my mind but I felt bad all over I couldn't get into anything like music which usually really makes me happy. Just wanted it to end so bad thats all I could think about.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669962 - 06/09/02 11:54 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try to remember exactly what happened to make the trip turn bad.
Everything was going pretty well for a little bit, and then what?
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Ripple
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I did just that I went into a quite room with some music on and laid down on the couch ....nothing helped
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669965 - 06/09/02 11:54 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe you were tired.
Sometimes strong trips can be exhausting.
Or maybe there was an issue you needed to address?
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 Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669968 - 06/09/02 11:56 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you done any other drugs recently like coke or speed of any kind? Also Were thy mixed strains?
I had an awful feeling trip once when i cobined ecuadors and Thai ks, Man it was awful. Valium helps take the bad trip away and relaxes you. Thats what I hear anyways.
This hangover is really pissing me off 
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Learyfan]
#669973 - 06/09/02 11:58 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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No that's not the way it was Learyfan the weirdness and bad vibes started during comming up and just got worse.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669975 - 06/09/02 12:00 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I heard that gobbling down a bunch of vitamin C pills can bring you down out your a tree in an emergency... Maybe it's placebo, or maybe it works. I have never tried it.
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Sorry about the hangover...No the strains were mot mixed I grew them myself and I don't do any other drugs....Only cause I cant get them!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669978 - 06/09/02 12:01 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Psilocybin at high doses can be weird. Sometimes this weirdness can be uncomfortable.
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Well thank god for the Xanax cause it really helped to bring me down
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#669986 - 06/09/02 12:05 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's not my first time with high doses though.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669987 - 06/09/02 12:11 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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is it your first time with that strain?
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Ripple
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no it's actually the only strain I have dosed on.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669997 - 06/09/02 12:16 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll think on this 1 for a while.
I'll get back to you.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#669999 - 06/09/02 12:17 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Explain the discomfort/bad vibes/weirdness
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#670012 - 06/09/02 12:30 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wish I could explain it better but I was cold and hot at the same time, tired and heavy yet I couldent rest. Very confused, lonely, disjointed thoughts about everything bad, parinoid.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#670030 - 06/09/02 12:46 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did you smoke any bud eariler in the day? Take anything else?
Did you look at a clock, sometimes looking at a clock makes me geek out - you said you started thinking of how much you wanted it to end.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: TeKHeAD009]
#670065 - 06/09/02 01:29 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't look at a clock but I remember how long it took for songs to end and thinking that time was moving so slowly.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#670325 - 06/09/02 04:34 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Take a long shower or relax in a warm bath.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#670906 - 06/10/02 01:51 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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How was your mood before starting?
What was the setting?
All these can influence your trip, when in a tight spot Sing, what ever, like a chant, it works for me.
I never take anything; to calm down I just sing and ridded it out.
But I haven't had a bad trip since I started doing it in nature, but I use to when doing it in the city (never again)!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: LOBO]
#671679 - 06/10/02 11:07 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn i remmember my only bad trip... it was 3-4 years ago... it was the first time i used LSD... all my friends took a half lsd blotter and i took one and a half!!!!!
this night was too fuckin' horrible!! i was scared to death!!!
i wouldnt expect too much power from a small piece of paper;-))))
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: LOBO]
#671839 - 06/10/02 01:15 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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my mood was great Lobo I was at home on a sunday afternoon. I was alone in the house with music playing.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#672287 - 06/10/02 06:48 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe your subconcious was trying to tell you something. Sometimes you just can't stop a bad trip no matter how strong you are or how many times you tripped without a having one. It happens. You can't eat alot of chili without having the shits, ya know? It's bound to happen sometime.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: nezshoo]
#672528 - 06/11/02 02:06 AM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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niacinamide
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: nezshoo]
#673259 - 06/11/02 01:05 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess your right about that Nezshoo but I'm still in denial.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#673566 - 06/11/02 04:32 PM (22 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes yes... It's ok. Just get naked and jump into jell-o everything will be ok! I promise.
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Hey, What is the answer to the question? Does anyone know what will bring you down if you really have to get out from within an bad trip?
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DarkStar1]
#695710 - 06/23/02 06:20 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no way to bring down a trip. You can only ride it out.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Sheepish]
#695717 - 06/23/02 06:24 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whenever I start to take a bad turn. I try to put on tunes. I have pulled my friends out of my bad friends by the music they love the most.
Music is everything. The universal language.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#695742 - 06/23/02 07:05 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dont get bad trips. you have to prepare yourself for the experience. people who do not realize the power of this drug are in for a ride. push all the negative thoughts out of your mind and realize its only a drug, not reality. xanax is what doctors give people who come to the hospital bad tripping and freakin out, so i guess that will make the trip come down.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: CaliChronic]
#696155 - 06/23/02 11:06 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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I once felt the same way as you if you read my origional post I thought that I would never have a bad trip after 30 years of experience!
but it did happen and like I said even the best music didn't help much.
I now believe much of it was caused by the effects of the high dose on my body, not my mind>>>>
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DarkStar1]
#696455 - 06/23/02 02:18 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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1) cup grandma's tummymint tea w/honey & ginseng... (or other calming/tonic tea combo..)
2) 100 - 250 mg niacinamide or inositol hexanicotinate.. (not niacin, which will work but causes "flushing" (due to vasodilaton), esp if taken on an empy stomach)
3) 1 tablet valium or xaxax (or other benzodiazapine...)
4) 1 tablet thorazine or stelazine (or other phenotiazine anti-psychotic)(NOTE:some anthistamies have antipsychotic/sedative action, and some antipsychotics have anthistamine/anti-nauseant activity e.g. compazine)
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#701636 - 06/25/02 06:38 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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The details of your experience don't surprise me all that much... I'd have to say in response that set and setting aren't the most important thing - it's what's in your head, and there are unpleasant things in everyone's head. Some or perhaps most of the time you manage to stick to the pleasant ones but I'm sure I'm not the only person here who doesn't see the mushroom as a 100% benevolent and friendly entity at all times...
Or perhaps I am?
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: MightyQuinn]
#701644 - 06/25/02 06:42 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, er, anyhow, sometimes you just catch bad vibrations so, you know, go with it.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: MightyQuinn]
#704555 - 06/27/02 03:57 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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In reply to:
I'd have to say in response that set and setting aren't the most important thing - it's what's in your head
Whats in your head is set (part of set and setting).
Set is your mood, your psychological state.
Setting is the area in which you're tripping.
Good luck
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: DreaMaTrix]
#704980 - 06/27/02 08:17 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I know that "set" is your mood and psychological state - but there are other things in your head too that you don't have the same control over. There is the potential for anyone to think really disturbing, dark, and unpleasant thoughts. There's a big part of your brain that just wants to fuck and kill things. Sometimes the mushrooms like to play around in there... Like I say, I've never really thought them to be 100% benevolent.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: MightyQuinn]
#705814 - 06/27/02 02:22 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's obvious what happened here. Our poor chap here started to have a bad trip but couldn't turn it around because he had re-occuring thoughts (caught in a loop though process) over and over again so all he could think about was trying to end it.
Did you once try to just STOP thinking about the weirdness and focus on something else? I bet not since you were stuck in this loop. I to have been down that road and it's pretty easy to get out of it with some practice. Whenever that happens and you're getting into that loop, try to zone out QUICKLY and remember something else. Some part of your life or event or whatever! just anything! try to remember EVERY single detail you can and hopefully the panic thoughts will be long behind you.
Try it.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: pharmacopeia]
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Let me ask you a question about that ...In my limited experience with mushroom trips (20 or so times) I have experienced Loop thinking every time. However I have never experienced that on LSD or mesculine (lets say 100-200 trips). As a matter of fact LSD is more on the order of run on thinking where you analize every tought on every possible plane and you feel as though you can analyze the world! it is just the oppisite of loop thinking!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#710835 - 06/29/02 10:22 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Let me ask you a question about that"
Where exactly is the question?
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 Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Sheepish]
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I hate to agree but it is true. Once you've eaten the little blue guys its on until you have riden it out. If you start to trip out htough the best thing at least in my experience is to go into a dark room lay down and try to just clear your mind maybe throw on some chill music and just try and tell yourself that what is in your head isnt anything more than the blue meanies talking to ya.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: ReeferMan]
#711268 - 06/29/02 02:39 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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As a person who has gone there and beyond to the point where you don't just feel disconnected and paranoid, you just forget about ALL of what "reality" is, I can honestly assure you that telling yourself that it is only a drug/trip/in your head will NOT work. In high dose trips you will not only have reality altered, it just won't be there. It honestly just disappears. Try rationalizing when you are that far out.
Personally, when I tried to think about how it's only a trip and nothing more, I then realized "Hey, well reality and normal living are just as fake, what IS real?" and that scared me shitless ... and it happens every time too ... because it feels like there is no comfort there or in everyday reality.
I think when it gets to a certain point, Xanax or maybe more extreme methods might have to be taken ... people who have never been out as far as a level 4 or 5 can NEVER know what it feels like, and thus are usually the ones saying "just ride it out.." ... not to sound mean or offensive (I'm not trying to be) but you just really don't know how frightening it can be without having gone that far. The difference between level 3 and 4 is extreme, and between 4 and 5 very big as well.
My friend almost killed himself when we both took the 1/4 of Pan Cyan ... that's not a time when you should just make him "ride it out" that's when you need to take action to make sure he doesn't hurt himself or others.
After having gone that far I never dose even higher than half-eighths anymore ... I've seen what's beyond this consciousness on 7g and I can honestly say if I ever did it again I would most likely kill myself to be that far from reality.
Yes, this shit does happen, don't be ignorant.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: HB]
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As a person who has gone there and beyond to the point where you don't just feel disconnected and paranoid, you just forget about ALL of what "reality" is, I can honestly assure you that telling yourself that it is only a drug/trip/in your head will NOT work. In high dose trips you will not only have reality altered, it just won't be there. It honestly just disappears. Try rationalizing when you are that far out.
this is where the fun starts, not ends....
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I have to say I don't agree with people who want to end the trip if it goes somewhere they didn't expect. Thats taking the easy way out. How can you appreciate what heaven feels like unless you lived through hell? Its more of a benefit for your future trips to try to work out the issues while tripping. The trips that tought me the most were the bad ones. There has been a time when I apprehended by the police while on a very strong trip from 5 quality gel tabs. They didn't know what to do with me so they sent me to the ER and these people tripped me the fuck out. I tried to resist and it took Six Big dudes to hold me down and strap me to the table. I saw them inject me with a few different shit and I know I was on an IV which they gave me valium through. None of this shit could bring me down and I couldn't tell them who I was for six hours.
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I'm talking about when it becomes a crisis situation -- ie: When the person gets violent or suicidal, as has happened to two of my friends on their trips.
My one friend tried to jump off the balcony of his house because he couldn't deal with the trip. The other was punching me because he thought I didn't exist, and then he tried to kill himself. You don't think this is a good time to take extreme action?
When a person goes this far, it isn't time to teach them a lesson, it's time to get them out of the trip. It isn't worth risking your life just to learn a lesson.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: HB]
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well if u think u have to tell people that they need to try to get there friends NOT to kill themselves... then either ur an idiot - or the people u are talking to are.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: TwistedRedneck]
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What are you talking about?
My posts are meant for trips that aren't just bad or uncomfortable but for ones that are life-threatening.
If you don't think it can really happen then you haven't taken enough, and hope you never do.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: HB]
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I believe you. I have seriously considered doing some really stupid things while tripping. The green square hedges three stories down looked like inviting pieces of jello that I could jump into. I was seriously considering it but I think it would take a real moron to do something like that. It doesn't sound like much fun to trip with your friends. I believe its possible for anyone to want to cause harm to themselves on acid I guess. Another good question is what do you all do with your guns while tripping? I was considering getting a 12 ga but I don't want to blow my brains out one day while having a bad trip.
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personally i wouldnt own a gun, but if i did id have one of those combo locks, cause i know i wouldnt be able to figure out a 4 digit combination while trippin.
personally for those life-threatening situations i strap the person down or hold them down.
here is one instance where i had to do this:
kid ate 3g syrian rue
smoked 5-meo-dmt
he wasnt ready for it, hes a self proclaimed acid freek, drug addict, and can handle anything go furthur type person.
in his arrogance he hit the bowl
i told him to be prepared, but the only person who should have been prepared was me
four to five hours of holding down a screaming kid who is thrashing wildly and flaling and screaming all kinds of inhuman gibberish at the top of his lungs. we had to have one person at each side, and pne person at his feet. one person with his head in their lap so he wouldnt break his own neck thrashing it so hard. after he was 'coming down' he didnt thrash as wildly, jsut pelvic-thrusted the ground with more pressure than i could punch... needless to say he lost control as soon as he sucked in the hit.
as erowid says: know your body, know your substance, know your mind
or something along those lines, if you dont know your limits, then you shouldnt do drugs. (or let them do you)
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: goatywoaty]
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: HB]
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I don't think that it needs to become that extreem for a person to want to kick it down a notch. It's personal choice, my friend will drink a couple of shots of Vodka to smooth over the trip, others feel that a joint will bring calm them down. Some people don't enjoy higher doses and sometimes misjudge the dose. Mushrooms at higher doses are much more difficult on the mind and body than say LSD 25 is.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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Of course, but most people would rather sit through an uncomfortable trip than to take something to dull it, while a person who is becoming violent has no choice but to be brought down or restrained.
It all depends on the person in question.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: HB]
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I agree, sometimes you have to protect someone from himself so he or she doesn't hurt himself or others.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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Getting back to the original post.....
Someone mentioned Xanax. That's my resource to bring me down. A shower helps too. Just triple check the temp of the water!!
I happen to have a great dog too. I talked to him and his friendship and concern stablized me once when I was too far gone...all by myself.
I don't know of any other drug or chemical that will help. Drinking alot of water helps to cycle the shrooms out of your system, so my opinion is... Xanax and water. Anyone else agree?
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Bullfrog1]
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Yes I mentioned Xanax in my origional post I took 4 or 5 of them that day they were .5 mg. each and they brought me down within 20 minutes or so.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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Ripple,
I find Xanax to be one of the strongest drugs on the planet. I took a 1mg tab, then another 1mg about a 1/2 hour later. I was worried about the reaction to my old ticker though.You said a 5mg pill. I could never take more than 1/2mg if I were straight without going right to sleep. Strong stuff...that xanax!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Bullfrog1]
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No I said .5 mg (1/2 mg) for a total of 2.5 mg in five pills.
Xanax comes in both .5 and 1.0 mg pills
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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>>As a matter of fact LSD is more on the order of run on thinking where you analize every tought on every possible plane and you feel as though you can analyze the world! it is just the oppisite of loop thinking!
I have to disagree...I had plenty of mental loops on ten-strip or higher doses.
I also agree that your bad experience was your own admitted denial of having a bad trip which probably made it seem way worse than it really was. The only bad trip I've ever had in my life was after smoking a bowl of weed. I got caught in a panic loop...was annoying...cause mentally I KNEW it was just me reacting to my emotions being elevated by the weed...but for the life of me...I couldn't stop feeling the panic. I even shivered a little...within an hour I was down from it and just started laughing about it. I fired up another bowl, danced and was fine. You gotta always respect a psychoactive substance...regardless of how "in control" you think you are...the nature of these substances is to reorganize mental processes...overloads cause many cool trips...but they can also turn you to the dark side of your own mental distortions. Stop dwelling on finding the "why" of the situation...you've already admitted you're in denial that you could have bad trips...everyone can. You survived and next time you'll know the warning signs your mind/body gives and you CAN get out of it...you were just caught up in the fact that it was happening to you.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Boppity604]
#724148 - 07/05/02 04:52 AM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes Boppity I have come to realize the truth in the time since I first posted this trip report. I agree with everything you said and it will just make me stronger in the future!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Boppity604]
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usually smoking weed with lsd does nothing for me, its as if the lsd fills the thc receptors with null, so that the thc cannot do its function, or something (how it feels inside)... with mushrooms every time its different, etiehr it mellows me out, makes me hyper, makes the trip confusing (usually has a touch or two of this element), makes me totally confused, or jsut bring about a calm through the noise....
either way it could be anything to bring you down, either physiologically or mentally... personally i use MJ to come down, from amt especially, it helps (amt or speed at all)...
i c an remember after tokin the bowl ... jsut one hit... 125 mg amt, panic fear paranoia, loop! what was i thinking, it was the thing that was present threee seconds ago, or was it? was i thinking about it? it was bad whatever it was, jeese i wonder if were gonna die, fuck that was car, holy shit are those guys talking to us. god we have to go. shit where the fuck are we.
man i should smoke less weed, i had to edit like 5 spelling errors.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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if i start to think im having a bad trip or i do have a bad trip i just try to do something else to take my mind off of it...go for a walk, have a smoke, just anything to take my mind off the bad shit
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: goatywoaty]
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Nothing is worse for me than MJ. It sends me into panic loop, some times for two hours. I have stopped smoking it completely, unlike Peter Parker, MJ and I do NOT mix!
I'd just think about my heart rate, and then I'd get into a paranoid loop and get scared.
I think I am quite unstable, drugs are definitley not for me. I've never been the same regards my heart beat since the night I was admitted to hospital about my racing heart on MJ
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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In reply to:
My friend almost killed himself when we both took the 1/4 of Pan Cyan
now you tell me i JUST ate about 5 grams of cyans , and a couple koh suma's lol
anyway. my personal believe is, a bad trip happens when
1) you have sub consience thought fucking with you, even if you dont know it
2) you hit a level that you arent expecting
0r 3) bad shit ( since this was shrooms, thats ruled out)
i tend to go with number 1. ive been partying hard for decades, and still sometimes when i come across some good bud ( not when im tripping) i start to get an anxiety thing going on. i stop. tell myself to breathe a few times, get my head right, and it goes away. you can "THINK" yourselve through a lot if you give it a chance.
my best advice for you is .....stop doing what your doing right now....dwelling on it. your going to put this BS in your subconscience, and this will cause you to be afraid, or worse, couse you to have another "bad trip"
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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> Xanax comes in both .5 and 1.0 mg pills
They also come in 2mg pills. Z Bars is a common street name for them. I watched someone take at least 15 of them and then take about 5 shots of vodka.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: ChromeCrow]
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Thanks for the words, since I posted this about two months ago I have come to terms with the bad trip and I think the reason is that I am not comfortable with the trip level that I reached. I'm just too old for that stuff. Now I really enjoy low doses much more!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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Bad trips are easily defined: they are a panic attack whilst under the influence of a hallucinogen. That's why the Xanax(an anxiolytic) helped. It reduced/removed your anxiety. As for the source of the anxiety, no one but you can say for sure.
My first bad trip occured while I was having a good time overall, and then recalled
a recent interaction between a freind and his mother which I had observed, and how wrong/assymmetrical/unpeaceful it seemed. Things snowballed from there. I
eventually ended up with sweat pouring out of every pore of my skin, and on the verge of who know's? The cure? Ethanol. I pounded a few beers, and everything came into perspective. The rest of the night was phenomenal(aside from the driver tripping and checking out some cool visual phenomenon while at the same time doing over 60 mph on I-15 and skipping off the median. Whoops. Seemed pretty amusing at the time though. What a life.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: giskardreborn]
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Yes alcohol also works!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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My last trip on shrooms was kinda messed...I was yo yo' ing betweeen a bad trip and an awesome trip. I had 2 drinks straight just after I ingested 2 grams of shrooms to calm me down....well it didn't work too much at the beginning. When I smoked a joint, WHAM, the shrooms hit, and hit hard and I got scared and stared into a bad trip.
I am extremely nervous of a bad trip (especially after last night, but I'll explain that in a min)
but Ripple, there must have been something that made you paraonoid.....of course, 5 gams of shroms is nuts!!! I will only go as far as maybe 2.5 to 3 grams of shrooms...I don't know how people can handle not having a bad trip on 5 grams because you are so fucking high, yoiu don't feel like you're living. I could not do that.
My first trip was on 2 grams on some kind of cubes, and I had a level 3 trip, which was fucking sweet (really, the only great trip I've had out of 4 coz I was extremely happy then) but I don't think I could handle more then 2 grams.
I would love to have xanax in my house just in case of a bad trip....I wish I had it last night....whenI smoked a big joint, I found out it was laced with liquid LSD, and I had an extremely bad trip......
I had no fucking idea it was laced with acid, and I was not under any circumstances going to do shrooms until I was happy and then someone laced the fucking pot with acid.....I am not in a state of mind to do shrooms let alone fucking acid for christ's sake!
I got so fucking scared I cried my eyes out and wanted to die. I saw spiders (I am majorly arachophocic), people were going to kill me and just paranoid as shit. I felt as though I was having a heart attack...I had a very severe panic attack last night and my friend were going to call 911 but I said no and just let myself get through it......My friends had to hold me because I was so scared. I am in a very bad situation mentally and I will fucking hurt the person who laced the pot because if I know I won't dose shrooms, why the fuck would I dose/drop Acid which is like 10 times worse then shrooms when I'm in a depressed state?
Now I'm really scared to dose shrooms....I don't want to have a bad trip...but after this trip, I am scared to death....
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
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Lacing weed with LSD is bullshit. I doubt it would have had any difference on your trip. Even if it was laced with liquid acid, it would be wasted, since you're buring the weed to smoke it, and LSD is a pretty fragile drug.
Bad trips are just part of the parcel when dealing with shrooms. Most people have had one, but some haven't. I wouldn't be afraid to dose again, just don't make the same mistakes. Found out what went wrong and why, then make sure next time you don't do the same things. Remember, you're still very new to this, so think of it as a learning curve, you still have a lot to learn and so do I!
Perhaps take a small break of a month or so from dosing.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
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what about popping a couple sleeping pills? like sonata......?
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You beat me to it,sheepish. When will people learn.
Dude, you were not trippin on LSD if you smoked it.
I know I've see liquid(3 hits) dropped onto a bowl of weed, cause people wanted to see if it worked ( I told them it wouldn't and to save those hits or give 'em to me) so we all sat there and smoked it. suprise, suprise, we were all high on weed, no trippin'.  Heat breaks down LSD and it's not a smokeable drug.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: joe666]
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Then why was I freaking out and seeing weird shit? There must have been something in that weed. I don't know but I wigged out completely and had a horrible night.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
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Most likely it was PCP laced. Read up on it and see if your trip compares. I heard it causes most of what is considered to be bad trips in a lot of ppl. (paranoia, delerium etc) Possbily DMT or salvia though could... though DMT is usually rare. I think I might have had some laced bud one time.  Just seemed to be a little more halucinoginic high then usual. Never found out though. Would never do that shit if I knew.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
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Doubt it was LSD baby it can't be smoked, my guess would be Salva! Were the visuals short lived and after that you just has a bad feeling?
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Edited by Ripple1958 (09/29/02 06:54 PM)
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#917630 - 09/29/02 07:17 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes the visuals lasted about 5 to 10 mins (I saw spiders and really fucked up shit and it scared me) and I was having really bad vibes the whole time and I felt so horrible. I wigged out completely.
My friends were really worried about me, but thank god they didn't call 911!!!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
#918793 - 09/30/02 05:06 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Or maybe it was just a typical bad mushroom trip? Smoking normal, non laced weed does increase visuals and intensity. I think it just didn't help you at all and pushed you further into a bad trip.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Sheepish]
#919315 - 09/30/02 11:53 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I havn't done shrooms in 2 months....so I don't know about smoking weed increasing a trip if I havn't dosed shrooms.....but I think it was salvia.....a friend of mine told me that it was laced with something, but wasn't sure but guessed it was liquid LSD because of the hallucinations....but it didn't help when they told me AFTER my bad experience. But I have been going through a rough time mentally, and that's a big reason why I havn't been doing shrooms lately. I want to get my mind back on track before I touch a hallucinagenic thanks.
the other night scared the fuck out of me....that's all I can say
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
#924360 - 10/02/02 06:01 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you go to hospital, while on a bad, high dose trip, what do they give you?
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 Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#924363 - 10/02/02 06:03 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Must have been some unhandle stress response. Or maybe you smelled or heard something that warped you into a non visual memory. And that memory activated the feeling.
Or something just went differend in your brain. A misrouted chemical maybe?
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: VSOPXO]
#924406 - 10/02/02 07:13 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes 5-10 min. of visuals sounds like Salva!
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Ripple]
#924855 - 10/02/02 12:04 PM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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well I have come to realize that the reason I had a bad trip is 1, I didn't know what I was smoking (I thought it was pot!!! and if it was, I didn't know it was laced until after everything happened) 2, I was going through a rough time mentally, so of course I wouldn't be ready to trip yet...
so when I get my mind back on track, I will be fine, so I'm not scared of having a bad trip anymore because I know why I had them before and I know that I won't have a bad trip anymore if I am in good spitits.
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Re: When you have to make it stop [Re: Trip_Out_7]
#927869 - 10/03/02 06:16 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Main factors in negative/bad feelings and trips are usually your mindset. If you're extremely stressed, worried, something is bothering you etc, it might be wiser to postpone the trip instead of having 12 hours of loop thinking about something that happened that day.
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